Naaaaaah (Gaming)
Kerbal Space Program is a better game than Destiny.
How is that comparable? They are doing two completely different things. And if you had 200 million dollars to make a AAA version Kerbal space program, it would blow the pants off it!
I don't think you could make Kerbal Space Program with 200 million dollars. You couldn't take basic risks required to make KSP if you had that much investment.
I agree that they're (mostly) doing different things, but in a way that's important. KSP engages you because you feel like you're learning new skills and coming to understand the way the universe works. Destiny engages you with a tight psychological loop based on the possibility of rewards. When you're done with a session of KSP, you have new skills and stories to tell your friends. When you're done with Destiny (raids and crucible, which do involve overcoming challenge, excepted) you mostly have new loot — although of course I think you're on the same page as me on this.
KSP does share one thing with Destiny: it wants to create a sense of wonder, exploration, hope, and awe. KSP is certainly way more successful at that! And what you do in KSP, on a moment-by-moment basis, feels like it's part of that story of exploration in a way Destiny usually doesn't.
Destiny has better marketing and a better psychological design for keeping players playing. But Destiny wants to have something KSP already has: the ability for a player to say 'look at that amazing place, how can I get there?', set a goal, work at it, and walk away not just with a great story but with the sense that they've contributed something to an ongoing work.
Part of that is the basic fact that creating new content for Destiny is way, way more expensive than for KSP.
Complete thread:
- Polygon talks to Highwire Studios -
INSANEdrive,
2015-06-19, 16:01
- Polygon talks to Highwire Studios -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 16:27
- I hold the opposite opinion. -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 16:28
- Ditto. It's not HOW many people, it's the RIGHT people. -
Revenant1988,
2015-06-19, 16:46
- Good Afternoon, Sir. -
Malagate,
2015-06-19, 21:37
- Worth a read! - Quirel, 2015-06-20, 04:15
- Good Afternoon, Sir. -
Malagate,
2015-06-19, 21:37
- Ditto. It's not HOW many people, it's the RIGHT people. -
Revenant1988,
2015-06-19, 16:46
- “Oh, my sweet summer child" - INSANEdrive, 2015-06-19, 16:38
- You are so narrow minded, bless your heart. - Ragashingo, 2015-06-19, 16:56
- Cody's PROBABLY right. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-19, 17:10
- It's the price of artistic freedom :/ - iconicbanana, 2015-06-19, 17:12
- I've never understood this attitude -
electricpirate,
2015-06-19, 17:34
- I've never understood this attitude -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 17:45
- Well, yes and no. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-19, 17:47
- Well, yes and no. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:12
- Well, yes and no. - Xenos, 2015-06-19, 18:15
- Well, yes and no. - CyberKN, 2015-06-19, 18:17
- Well, yes and no. -
unoudid,
2015-06-19, 18:23
- About Fez -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 18:36
- About Fez -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-19, 18:43
- About Fez -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 18:53
- About Fez - Ragashingo, 2015-06-19, 23:19
- About Alto's - Vortech, 2015-06-20, 23:50
- About Fez -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 18:53
- Dont' worry, pixel art is fading, low poly is in ;) -
electricpirate,
2015-06-19, 19:13
- As an N64 fan boy, I'm TOTALLY on board lol - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-19, 19:15
- I'm kind of pumped for more stuff like this: *GIF* -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 19:16
- I'm kind of pumped for more stuff like this: *GIF* -
Leviathan,
2015-06-19, 19:21
- what is it? -
Kermit,
2015-06-19, 21:29
- Necropolis - CyberKN, 2015-06-19, 21:35
- That's the new Titan attack being used on a Taken, right? - Kahzgul, 2015-06-19, 21:56
- what is it? -
Kermit,
2015-06-19, 21:29
- I'm kind of pumped for more stuff like this: *GIF* -
Leviathan,
2015-06-19, 19:21
- About Fez -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-19, 18:43
- About Fez -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 18:36
- "Fez was horrid" Ahahahahaha - someotherguy, 2015-06-20, 01:36
- Well, yes and no. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:12
- What does Cutting Edge even mean? -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-19, 17:49
- What does Cutting Edge even mean? -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:14
- Story can be done old style. - Funkmon, 2015-06-19, 18:22
- What does Cutting Edge even mean? -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-19, 20:14
- I beg to differ... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 20:15
- Va-va-VOOM! - Kermit, 2015-06-19, 21:30
- I stand corrected - Kahzgul, 2015-06-19, 21:55
- I dunno man - someotherguy, 2015-06-20, 01:45
- I beg to differ... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 20:15
- What does Cutting Edge even mean? -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:14
- I've never understood this attitude -
electricpirate,
2015-06-19, 18:42
- I've never understood this attitude -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:50
- I had way more fun on mobile than anywhere else this year -
electricpirate,
2015-06-19, 18:58
- If you like logic puzzle games, try Hitman GO. -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 19:00
- If you like logic puzzle games, try Hitman GO. - electricpirate, 2015-06-19, 19:05
- If you like tapping green squares briefly, try Fallout Shelt - Vortech, 2015-06-20, 23:56
- I had way more fun on mobile than anywhere else this year -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 19:24
- I had way more fun on mobile than anywhere else this year - CyberKN, 2015-06-19, 19:27
- I had way more fun on mobile than anywhere else this year - electricpirate, 2015-06-19, 19:44
- Because your 50 inch TV doesn't fit in your pocket - Kahzgul, 2015-06-19, 21:57
- If you like logic puzzle games, try Hitman GO. -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 19:00
- I had way more fun on mobile than anywhere else this year -
electricpirate,
2015-06-19, 18:58
- I've never understood this attitude -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:50
- Well, yes and no. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-19, 17:47
- I've never understood this attitude -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 17:45
- Cody's PROBABLY right. -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-19, 18:14
- Cody's PROBABLY right. - Cody Miller, 2015-06-19, 18:17
- I was making my own point - Funkmon, 2015-06-19, 18:24
- Cody's PROBABLY right. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-19, 18:27
- Cody's PROBABLY right. -
Kermit,
2015-06-19, 18:24
- I agree. I'll buy their game regardless, hope it's great! - Funkmon, 2015-06-19, 18:26
- Size doesn't always matter -
CougRon,
2015-06-19, 17:49
- Size doesn't always matter -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:11
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 18:19
- Size doesn't always matter -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:25
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 18:28
- Size doesn't always matter -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 18:44
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 18:53
- Size doesn't always matter -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 19:00
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 19:07
- Size doesn't always matter -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 19:17
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 19:28
- Something else to mention -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 19:31
- Something else to mention -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 19:33
- Demonstrably not true -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 19:38
- Demonstrably true -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 19:50
- Demonstrably true -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 20:11
- Demonstrably true - CyberKN, 2015-06-19, 20:21
- Demonstrably true -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 20:11
- Demonstrably true -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 19:50
- Something else to mention -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 19:41
- Didn't mean to hit submit - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2015-06-19, 19:42
- Something else to mention -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 19:53
- Something else to mention - CyberKN, 2015-06-19, 19:58
- Demonstrably not true -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 19:38
- Something else to mention -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 19:48
- Something else to mention - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2015-06-19, 20:18
- Something else to mention - Kahzgul, 2015-06-19, 22:25
- Something else to mention -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 19:33
- Something else to mention -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 19:31
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 19:28
- Size doesn't always matter -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 19:17
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 19:07
- Size doesn't always matter -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 19:00
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 18:53
- Size doesn't always matter -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 18:44
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 18:28
- Size doesn't always matter -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:25
- Size doesn't always matter -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 18:25
- Size doesn't always matter -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:34
- Example -
Xenos,
2015-06-19, 18:36
- Example -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:37
- And one more time for old time's sake: opinion, not fact - Xenos, 2015-06-19, 18:37
- Example -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 18:39
- Example -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:40
- Example - CyberKN, 2015-06-19, 18:41
- Well... I liked it... - Ragashingo, 2015-06-19, 23:53
- Example -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:40
- Example -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:37
- Example -
Xenos,
2015-06-19, 18:36
- Size doesn't always matter -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:34
- Size doesn't always matter - Kahzgul, 2015-06-19, 22:04
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 18:19
- Size doesn't always matter - narcogen, 2015-06-21, 23:24
- Size doesn't always matter -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:11
- I think... -
slycrel,
2015-06-19, 18:29
- Also, I started this some time ago... - slycrel, 2015-06-19, 18:30
- Naaaaaah - General Battuta, 2015-06-19, 18:38
- I disagree. -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-19, 19:11
- I disagree. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 19:15
- I disagree. -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-19, 22:07
- I disagree. - Claude Errera, 2015-06-19, 22:54
- I disagree. -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-19, 22:07
- I disagree. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 19:15
- Indie Devs everywhere say hi - someotherguy, 2015-06-20, 01:27
- Polygon talks to Highwire Studios - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-20, 06:54
- I hold the opposite opinion. -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 16:28
- tldr - MartyTheElder, 2015-06-20, 23:14
- Polygon talks to Highwire Studios -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 16:27