Cody's PROBABLY right. (Gaming)
I think you're jumping in to defend something that doesn't need defending while largely ignoring what Cody actually said.
Are the odds against a new, unproven game studio? Of course! And that's true regardless of their budget or team size! But Cody more or less wrote off a new, unproven studio that's less than a week old and has yet to announce any titles simply because they believe in being small! And he's doing so based on a quote from someone who has a ton of experience in the gaming industry. That's something quite different than talking about the ratio of good / memorable small games vs good / memorable big games made each year. And I think Cody absolutely deserves push back on what he actually said.
Consider these two questions:
1. Can a "cutting edge" game be made by a small team with a small budget?
2. Can a memorable game be made by a small team with a small budget?If yes, then it seems way too early for anyone to be disappointed in Highwire Studios.
I don't disagree with anything you've said here, but I think it's also understandable to carry over past experiences and preferences.
I was also disappointed to hear that Highwire Games would be staying small... not because I don't believe they're capable of doing amazing things, but because smaller games from smaller studios almost never appeal to me personally.
I find that with smaller teams, the most I can usually hope for is a small set of simple mechanics that are refined and well implemented, that are fun for a few minutes. The kind of games that make me go "oh, that's cool" and then I put it down and never think about it again. Even more often than that, I find smaller games tend to incorporate fun and exciting ideas, but lack the kind of finesse and polish that I personally need from a game in order to find it enjoyable.
For all the faults of big-budget AAA games, I find games like Destiny, AC 4, Titanfall, or Halo to be far more "revolutionary" in terms of the kinds of experiences they allow, and the mechanical intricacy that they can deliver. For every Journey out there, I've played a dozen AAA games that delivered experiences I wouldn't trade for anything.
But of course, this is 99% just personal preferences. I'm just talking about what clicks with me. Either way, I can't wait to see what Marty and co. have up their sleeves :)
Complete thread:
- Polygon talks to Highwire Studios -
INSANEdrive,
2015-06-19, 16:01
- Polygon talks to Highwire Studios -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 16:27
- I hold the opposite opinion. -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 16:28
- Ditto. It's not HOW many people, it's the RIGHT people. -
Revenant1988,
2015-06-19, 16:46
- Good Afternoon, Sir. -
Malagate,
2015-06-19, 21:37
- Worth a read! - Quirel, 2015-06-20, 04:15
- Good Afternoon, Sir. -
Malagate,
2015-06-19, 21:37
- Ditto. It's not HOW many people, it's the RIGHT people. -
Revenant1988,
2015-06-19, 16:46
- “Oh, my sweet summer child" - INSANEdrive, 2015-06-19, 16:38
- You are so narrow minded, bless your heart. - Ragashingo, 2015-06-19, 16:56
- Cody's PROBABLY right. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-19, 17:10
- It's the price of artistic freedom :/ - iconicbanana, 2015-06-19, 17:12
- I've never understood this attitude -
electricpirate,
2015-06-19, 17:34
- I've never understood this attitude -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 17:45
- Well, yes and no. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-19, 17:47
- Well, yes and no. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:12
- Well, yes and no. - Xenos, 2015-06-19, 18:15
- Well, yes and no. - CyberKN, 2015-06-19, 18:17
- Well, yes and no. -
unoudid,
2015-06-19, 18:23
- About Fez -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 18:36
- About Fez -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-19, 18:43
- About Fez -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 18:53
- About Fez - Ragashingo, 2015-06-19, 23:19
- About Alto's - Vortech, 2015-06-20, 23:50
- About Fez -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 18:53
- Dont' worry, pixel art is fading, low poly is in ;) -
electricpirate,
2015-06-19, 19:13
- As an N64 fan boy, I'm TOTALLY on board lol - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-19, 19:15
- I'm kind of pumped for more stuff like this: *GIF* -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 19:16
- I'm kind of pumped for more stuff like this: *GIF* -
Leviathan,
2015-06-19, 19:21
- what is it? -
Kermit,
2015-06-19, 21:29
- Necropolis - CyberKN, 2015-06-19, 21:35
- That's the new Titan attack being used on a Taken, right? - Kahzgul, 2015-06-19, 21:56
- what is it? -
Kermit,
2015-06-19, 21:29
- I'm kind of pumped for more stuff like this: *GIF* -
Leviathan,
2015-06-19, 19:21
- About Fez -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-19, 18:43
- About Fez -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 18:36
- "Fez was horrid" Ahahahahaha - someotherguy, 2015-06-20, 01:36
- Well, yes and no. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:12
- What does Cutting Edge even mean? -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-19, 17:49
- What does Cutting Edge even mean? -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:14
- Story can be done old style. - Funkmon, 2015-06-19, 18:22
- What does Cutting Edge even mean? -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-19, 20:14
- I beg to differ... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 20:15
- Va-va-VOOM! - Kermit, 2015-06-19, 21:30
- I stand corrected - Kahzgul, 2015-06-19, 21:55
- I dunno man - someotherguy, 2015-06-20, 01:45
- I beg to differ... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 20:15
- What does Cutting Edge even mean? -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:14
- I've never understood this attitude -
electricpirate,
2015-06-19, 18:42
- I've never understood this attitude -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:50
- I had way more fun on mobile than anywhere else this year -
electricpirate,
2015-06-19, 18:58
- If you like logic puzzle games, try Hitman GO. -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 19:00
- If you like logic puzzle games, try Hitman GO. - electricpirate, 2015-06-19, 19:05
- If you like tapping green squares briefly, try Fallout Shelt - Vortech, 2015-06-20, 23:56
- I had way more fun on mobile than anywhere else this year -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 19:24
- I had way more fun on mobile than anywhere else this year - CyberKN, 2015-06-19, 19:27
- I had way more fun on mobile than anywhere else this year - electricpirate, 2015-06-19, 19:44
- Because your 50 inch TV doesn't fit in your pocket - Kahzgul, 2015-06-19, 21:57
- If you like logic puzzle games, try Hitman GO. -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 19:00
- I had way more fun on mobile than anywhere else this year -
electricpirate,
2015-06-19, 18:58
- I've never understood this attitude -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:50
- Well, yes and no. -
Funkmon,
2015-06-19, 17:47
- I've never understood this attitude -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 17:45
- Cody's PROBABLY right. -
Ragashingo,
2015-06-19, 18:14
- Cody's PROBABLY right. - Cody Miller, 2015-06-19, 18:17
- I was making my own point - Funkmon, 2015-06-19, 18:24
- Cody's PROBABLY right. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-06-19, 18:27
- Cody's PROBABLY right. -
Kermit,
2015-06-19, 18:24
- I agree. I'll buy their game regardless, hope it's great! - Funkmon, 2015-06-19, 18:26
- Size doesn't always matter -
CougRon,
2015-06-19, 17:49
- Size doesn't always matter -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:11
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 18:19
- Size doesn't always matter -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:25
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 18:28
- Size doesn't always matter -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 18:44
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 18:53
- Size doesn't always matter -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 19:00
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 19:07
- Size doesn't always matter -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 19:17
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 19:28
- Something else to mention -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 19:31
- Something else to mention -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 19:33
- Demonstrably not true -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 19:38
- Demonstrably true -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 19:50
- Demonstrably true -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 20:11
- Demonstrably true - CyberKN, 2015-06-19, 20:21
- Demonstrably true -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 20:11
- Demonstrably true -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 19:50
- Something else to mention -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 19:41
- Didn't mean to hit submit - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2015-06-19, 19:42
- Something else to mention -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 19:53
- Something else to mention - CyberKN, 2015-06-19, 19:58
- Demonstrably not true -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 19:38
- Something else to mention -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 19:48
- Something else to mention - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2015-06-19, 20:18
- Something else to mention - Kahzgul, 2015-06-19, 22:25
- Something else to mention -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 19:33
- Something else to mention -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 19:31
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 19:28
- Size doesn't always matter -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 19:17
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 19:07
- Size doesn't always matter -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 19:00
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 18:53
- Size doesn't always matter -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-06-19, 18:44
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 18:28
- Size doesn't always matter -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:25
- Size doesn't always matter -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 18:25
- Size doesn't always matter -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:34
- Example -
Xenos,
2015-06-19, 18:36
- Example -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:37
- And one more time for old time's sake: opinion, not fact - Xenos, 2015-06-19, 18:37
- Example -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 18:39
- Example -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:40
- Example - CyberKN, 2015-06-19, 18:41
- Well... I liked it... - Ragashingo, 2015-06-19, 23:53
- Example -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:40
- Example -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:37
- Example -
Xenos,
2015-06-19, 18:36
- Size doesn't always matter -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:34
- Size doesn't always matter - Kahzgul, 2015-06-19, 22:04
- Size doesn't always matter -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-06-19, 18:19
- Size doesn't always matter - narcogen, 2015-06-21, 23:24
- Size doesn't always matter -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 18:11
- I think... -
slycrel,
2015-06-19, 18:29
- Also, I started this some time ago... - slycrel, 2015-06-19, 18:30
- Naaaaaah - General Battuta, 2015-06-19, 18:38
- I disagree. -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-19, 19:11
- I disagree. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 19:15
- I disagree. -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-19, 22:07
- I disagree. - Claude Errera, 2015-06-19, 22:54
- I disagree. -
Kahzgul,
2015-06-19, 22:07
- I disagree. -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 19:15
- Indie Devs everywhere say hi - someotherguy, 2015-06-20, 01:27
- Polygon talks to Highwire Studios - Fuertisimo, 2015-06-20, 06:54
- I hold the opposite opinion. -
CyberKN,
2015-06-19, 16:28
- tldr - MartyTheElder, 2015-06-20, 23:14
- Polygon talks to Highwire Studios -
Cody Miller,
2015-06-19, 16:27