Sounds like that there is the problem (Destiny)

by someotherguy, Hertfordshire, England, Friday, October 18, 2019, 11:12 (1870 days ago) @ Claude Errera

I guess what I'm saying is that the vast majority of entities that sell stuff make use of human foibles to sell more stuff - getting mad at Bungie seems silly to me, unless I'm willing to be mad at almost everyone. (I'm not.)

Be mad. You recognise something is wrong everywhere. Be mad about it! I understand picking your battles but saying "everything sucks so Its okay that this sucks" is a pretty weak hill to plant your flag on.

Especilly in a young industry that has only recently discovered they can pull this stuff off. If you dont have the energy to be mad about everything, be mad about the newest, most malleable version of it thats corrupting a honby you love and a developer you've followed for years.

Or throw your hands up and say "I dont have the energy to care, so nor should you" I guess. Aggressive apthy is the internet's greatest gift to predatory behviour.

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        “That actually isn’t debatable...” - Ragashingo, 2019-10-17, 10:44
        
        “That actually isn’t debatable...” - cheapLEY, 2019-10-17, 11:09
        
        I disagree. Now what? - Ragashingo, 2019-10-17, 11:12
        
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        I disagree. Now what? - Harmanimus, 2019-10-18, 00:55
        
        I disagree. Now what? - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-10-18, 07:18
        
        This post is so good I'm now pro privatizing firefighting - kidtsunami, 2019-10-18, 08:43
        
        LOL! - Kermit, 2019-10-18, 08:46
        
        Hah :) - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-10-18, 08:48
        
        Hah :) - kidtsunami, 2019-10-18, 08:56
        
        I disagree. Now what? - Harmanimus, 2019-10-18, 09:06
        
        I disagree. Now what? - Cody Miller, 2019-10-18, 09:32
        
        I disagree. Now what? - Harmanimus, 2019-10-18, 09:48
        
        State of the Eververse - MacAddictXIV, 2019-10-17, 11:22
        
        I agree. :) - Ragashingo, 2019-10-17, 11:37
        
        I agree. :) - cheapLEY, 2019-10-17, 11:40
        
        I agree. :) - Ragashingo, 2019-10-17, 12:14
        
        I agree. :) - cheapLEY, 2019-10-17, 13:57
        
        I agree. :) - Ragashingo, 2019-10-17, 14:41
        
        I agree. :) - cheapLEY, 2019-10-17, 16:28
        
        I agree. :) - Ragashingo, 2019-10-17, 16:35
        
        I agree. :) - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-10-17, 15:38
        
        I agree. :) - Ragashingo, 2019-10-17, 17:13
        
        I agree. :) - Harmanimus, 2019-10-17, 19:26
        
        State of the Eververse - cheapLEY, 2019-10-17, 11:39
        
        State of the Eververse - Claude Errera, 2019-10-17, 12:08
        
        Totally agree. - Kermit, 2019-10-17, 12:11
        
        State of the Eververse - cheapLEY, 2019-10-17, 12:34
        
        Making money - MacAddictXIV, 2019-10-17, 12:41
        
        State of the Eververse - Claude Errera, 2019-10-17, 12:46
        
        State of the Eververse - cheapLEY, 2019-10-17, 12:52
        
        State of the Eververse - Claude Errera, 2019-10-17, 12:56
        
        State of the Eververse - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-10-18, 07:30
        
        State of the Eververse - Cody Miller, 2019-10-18, 07:47
        
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        State of the Eververse - Cody Miller, 2019-10-18, 08:39
        
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        State of the Eververse - Harmanimus, 2019-10-18, 09:14
        
        State of the Eververse - Cody Miller, 2019-10-18, 09:48
        
        What even is this argument? - someotherguy, 2019-10-21, 00:51
        
        What even is this argument? - Harmanimus, 2019-10-22, 14:17
        
        State of the Eververse - Kermit, 2019-10-22, 13:55
        
        State of the Eververse - Cody Miller, 2019-10-22, 14:59
        
        +10000 *NM* - someotherguy, 2019-10-22, 15:01
        
        +10000 *NM* - someotherguy, 2019-10-22, 16:01
        
        State of the Eververse - Kermit, 2019-10-23, 05:15
        
        State of the Eververse - someotherguy, 2019-10-23, 05:49
        
        State of the Eververse - Kermit, 2019-10-23, 08:29
        
        State of the Eververse - Claude Errera, 2019-10-23, 10:50
        
        State of the Eververse - Cody Miller, 2019-10-24, 08:56
        
        State of the Eververse - MacAddictXIV, 2019-10-24, 09:32
        
        State of the Eververse - Cody Miller, 2019-10-24, 09:51
        
        State of the Eververse - MacAddictXIV, 2019-10-24, 10:00
        
        State of the Eververse - Cody Miller, 2019-10-24, 10:42
        
        Live game vs. The game elements - MacAddictXIV, 2019-10-24, 10:49
        
        Rubbish excuse for it imo - someotherguy, 2019-10-24, 23:36
        
        Rubbish excuse for it imo - Harmanimus, 2019-10-25, 09:44
        
        This^ - Kermit, 2019-10-25, 09:58
        
        False equivalency - someotherguy, 2019-10-25, 10:30
        
        False equivalency - Harmanimus, 2019-10-25, 22:46
        
        Rubbish excuse for it imo - Cody Miller, 2019-10-25, 11:13
        
        Rubbish excuse for it imo - Harmanimus, 2019-10-25, 22:48
        
        State of the Eververse - Cody Miller, 2019-10-23, 07:52
        
        And I respect that. - Kermit, 2019-10-23, 08:29
        
        State of the Eververse - Claude Errera, 2019-10-18, 09:57
        
        </thread> - Ragashingo, 2019-10-18, 10:00
        
        State of the Eververse - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-10-18, 15:19
        
        Personal Responsibility. - Ragashingo, 2019-10-17, 12:38
        
        Personal Responsibility. - squidnh3, 2019-10-17, 12:58
        
        Personal Responsibility. - cheapLEY, 2019-10-17, 13:13
        
        Personal Responsibility. - squidnh3, 2019-10-17, 13:55
        
        Personal Responsibility. - Cody Miller, 2019-10-17, 14:05
        
        Personal Responsibility. - Kermit, 2019-10-17, 14:14
        
        Personal Responsibility. - cheapLEY, 2019-10-17, 15:39
        
        Fun fact about capitalism - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-10-17, 16:36
        
        Excellent post. A must read. - Ragashingo, 2019-10-17, 17:37
        
        Trust - Pyromancy, 2019-10-18, 01:46
        
        +1 - Korny, 2019-10-18, 07:31
        
        +1 - Harmanimus, 2019-10-18, 09:18
        
        +1 - Korny, 2019-10-18, 10:12
        
        +1 - Harmanimus, 2019-10-18, 10:25
        
        Ummmm - MacAddictXIV, 2019-10-18, 10:31
        
        Not a paywall - someotherguy, 2019-10-18, 10:37
        
        Personal Responsibility. - Ragashingo, 2019-10-17, 17:34
        
        Personal Responsibility. - cheapLEY, 2019-10-17, 18:12
        
        Personal Responsibility. - Ragashingo, 2019-10-17, 18:34
        
        Personal Responsibility. - cheapLEY, 2019-10-17, 18:49
        
        Personal Responsibility. - Ragashingo, 2019-10-17, 19:02
        
        Personal Responsibility. - Cody Miller, 2019-10-17, 19:14
        
        Personal Responsibility. - Kermit, 2019-10-17, 19:44
        
        Personal Responsibility. - Cody Miller, 2019-10-17, 21:47
        
        Personal Responsibility. - cheapLEY, 2019-10-18, 04:51
        
        Personal Responsibility. - squidnh3, 2019-10-18, 06:48
        
        Personal Responsibility. - Claude Errera, 2019-10-18, 10:08
        
        Personal Responsibility. - Cody Miller, 2019-10-18, 10:38
        
        Personal Responsibility. - Claude Errera, 2019-10-18, 10:54
        
        Personal Responsibility. - Cody Miller, 2019-10-18, 11:14
        
        Personal Responsibility. - Claude Errera, 2019-10-18, 11:19
        
        Personal Responsibility. - Kermit, 2019-10-18, 13:52
        
        Personal Responsibility. - Ragashingo, 2019-10-18, 14:00
        
        Personal Responsibility. - cheapLEY, 2019-10-18, 14:21
        
        Personal Responsibility. - Cody Miller, 2019-10-18, 14:30
        
        Personal Responsibility. - Kermit, 2019-10-18, 15:38
        
        The McRibb is predatory - TheOmegaClown, 2019-10-18, 07:25
        
        You should see the them in the wild. DANGEROUS. - someotherguy, 2019-10-18, 11:22
        
        The A**hole Dilemma - someotherguy, 2019-10-18, 10:52
        
        The A**hole Dilemma - Claude Errera, 2019-10-18, 10:56
        
        Why? - someotherguy, 2019-10-18, 11:03
        
        Heh. - Claude Errera, 2019-10-18, 11:22
        
        Heh. - someotherguy, 2019-10-18, 11:24
        
        Heh. - Claude Errera, 2019-10-18, 11:30
        
        Heh. - Korny, 2019-10-18, 12:47
        
        The A**hole Dilemma - Ragashingo, 2019-10-18, 11:08
        
        The A**hole Dilemma - someotherguy, 2019-10-18, 11:15
        
        Miss you, dude. - Kermit, 2019-10-18, 19:35
        
        <3 - someotherguy, 2019-10-19, 01:51
        
        State of the Eververse - Cody Miller, 2019-10-17, 13:08
        
        State of the Eververse - Claude Errera, 2019-10-17, 13:17
        
        State of the Eververse - Cody Miller, 2019-10-17, 13:25
        
        State of the Eververse - MacAddictXIV, 2019-10-17, 13:27
        
        State of the Eververse - Cody Miller, 2019-10-17, 13:31
        
        State of the Eververse - MacAddictXIV, 2019-10-17, 13:33
        
        State of the Eververse - TheOmegaClown, 2019-10-18, 07:30
        
        State of the Eververse - cheapLEY, 2019-10-18, 08:14
        
        State of the Eververse - MacAddictXIV, 2019-10-18, 08:39
        
        State of the Eververse - cheapLEY, 2019-10-18, 09:20
        
        State of the Eververse - Claude Errera, 2019-10-18, 10:13
        
        State of the Eververse - MacAddictXIV, 2019-10-17, 12:20
        
        The Psychology Argument Is Dishonest. - Ragashingo, 2019-10-18, 18:31
      - As someone who has anxiety about collections/completion - someotherguy, 2019-10-18, 10:25
        
        As someone who has anxiety about collections/completion - Claude Errera, 2019-10-18, 11:00
        
        Sounds like that there is the problem - someotherguy, 2019-10-18, 11:12
        
        Sounds like that there is the problem - Claude Errera, 2019-10-18, 11:29
        
        Of course one thing I'm forgetting... - someotherguy, 2019-10-18, 11:34
        
        Of course one thing I'm forgetting... - Cody Miller, 2019-10-18, 12:19
        
        inb4 42 - someotherguy, 2019-10-18, 15:03
        
        Sounds like that there is the problem - cheapLEY, 2019-10-18, 12:01
        
        Sounds like that there is the problem - Claude Errera, 2019-10-18, 12:10
        
        Sounds like that there is the problem - cheapLEY, 2019-10-18, 12:14
        
        Sounds like that there is the problem - Cody Miller, 2019-10-18, 12:21
        
        Sounds like that there is the problem - Claude Errera, 2019-10-18, 15:59
        
        Sounds like that there is the problem - Cody Miller, 2019-10-18, 16:18
        
        Sounds like that there is the problem - MacAddictXIV, 2019-10-19, 23:53
        
        Sounds like that there is the problem - Ragashingo, 2019-10-18, 12:15
        
        We should *always* be up in arms about it - someotherguy, 2019-10-18, 18:22
        
        Nah. - Ragashingo, 2019-10-18, 18:27
        
        Which is how we got into this mess in the first place - someotherguy, 2019-10-19, 01:53
        
        As someone who has anxiety about collections/completion - Ragashingo, 2019-10-18, 11:17
        
        As someone who has anxiety about collections/completion - someotherguy, 2019-10-18, 11:21
        
        As someone who has anxiety about collections/completion - Claude Errera, 2019-10-18, 11:33
        
        Ah come on now - someotherguy, 2019-10-18, 11:38
        
        Ah come on now - Claude Errera, 2019-10-18, 11:54
        
        Ah come on now - cheapLEY, 2019-10-18, 16:28
        
        Ah come on now - Ragashingo, 2019-10-18, 18:14
        
        Ah come on now - someotherguy, 2019-10-18, 18:19
        
        Ah come on now - Ragashingo, 2019-10-18, 18:25
        
        Now you're just being disingenuous - someotherguy, 2019-10-19, 01:48
        
        Now you're just being disingenuous - Ragashingo, 2019-10-19, 07:52
        
        Now you're just being disingenuous - cheapLEY, 2019-10-19, 08:20
        
        Now you're just being disingenuous - Ragashingo, 2019-10-19, 10:26
        
        Now you're just being disingenuous - cheapLEY, 2019-10-19, 10:39
        
        Now you're just being disingenuous - Ragashingo, 2019-10-19, 10:58
        
        Now you're just being disingenuous - cheapLEY, 2019-10-19, 11:08
        
        Not banning anyone. Just wish we could all be more civil. :( - Claude Errera, 2019-10-19, 11:30
        
        Not banning anyone. Just wish we could all be more civil. :( - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-10-19, 12:56
        
        Not banning anyone. Just wish we could all be more civil. :( - Claude Errera, 2019-10-19, 14:44
        
        Not banning anyone. Just wish we could all be more civil. :( - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-10-19, 15:02
        
        Now you're just being disingenuous - Ragashingo, 2019-10-19, 11:34
        
        Just gonna zero in on this - someotherguy, 2019-10-19, 15:15
        
        Just gonna zero in on this - MacAddictXIV, 2019-10-20, 11:21
        
        Just gonna zero in on this - someotherguy, 2019-10-20, 13:19
        
        Just gonna zero in on this - Ragashingo, 2019-10-20, 14:35
        
        Just gonna zero in on this - Cody Miller, 2019-10-20, 15:19
        
        Gotta echo Cody here - someotherguy, 2019-10-21, 00:25
        
        Original reply deleted, keep it civil. - Xenos, 2019-10-20, 11:23
        
        As someone who has anxiety about collections/completion - Ragashingo, 2019-10-18, 11:35
        
        See response to Claude ^ - someotherguy, 2019-10-18, 11:39
        
        Yeah. My phone keyboard is slower. :) - Ragashingo, 2019-10-18, 11:42
        
        Yeah. My phone keyboard is slower. :) - cheapLEY, 2019-10-18, 16:32
        
        Yeah. My phone keyboard is slower. :) - Cody Miller, 2019-10-18, 16:35
        
        Yep, but I was using it! :p - Ragashingo, 2019-10-18, 16:57
    - State of the Eververse - Cody Miller, 2019-10-17, 12:50
      - State of the Eververse - MacAddictXIV, 2019-10-17, 13:26
        
        State of the Eververse - Cody Miller, 2019-10-17, 13:28
        
        State of the Eververse - MacAddictXIV, 2019-10-17, 13:31
        
        State of the Eververse - Claude Errera, 2019-10-17, 15:01
- Tess Everis is the Darkness - narcogen, 2019-10-17, 09:32
- I don't get the outrage - squidnh3, 2019-10-17, 09:50
  - I don't get the outrage - MacAddictXIV, 2019-10-17, 10:00
  - I don't get the outrage - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2019-10-17, 10:13
    - I don't get the outrage - Claude Errera, 2019-10-17, 12:14
      - hey squid and claude... - ManKitten, 2019-10-17, 12:40
      - I don't get the outrage - Cody Miller, 2019-10-17, 12:52
        
        I don't get the outrage - Claude Errera, 2019-10-17, 12:53
        
        I don't get the outrage - Cody Miller, 2019-10-17, 13:27
  - Ever-what? - Kermit, 2019-10-17, 12:12
    - WHO IS FENCHURCH!?!? - MacAddictXIV, 2019-10-17, 12:25
  - +1 - TheOmegaClown, 2019-10-21, 05:49
- Two things can be true at the same time - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-10-17, 15:33
  - Two things can be true at the same time - CyberKN, 2019-10-17, 15:53
  - Two things can be true at the same time - cheapLEY, 2019-10-17, 16:10
  - Two things can be true at the same time - Kermit, 2019-10-18, 08:15
    - Two things can be true at the same time - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-10-18, 08:47
      - Two things can be true at the same time - Harmanimus, 2019-10-18, 09:22
        
        Two things can be true at the same time - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-10-18, 19:32
        
        Two things can be true at the same time - Kermit, 2019-10-25, 10:04
        
        Bungie employing questionable strategies =\= Bungie is evil - someotherguy, 2019-10-25, 10:32
        
        Bungie employing questionable strategies =\= Bungie is evil - Kermit, 2019-10-27, 18:43
        
        Bungie employing questionable strategies =\= Bungie is evil - cheapLEY, 2019-10-27, 19:10
        
        This is normal =\= This is okay - someotherguy, 2019-10-28, 03:00
- Also... - Ragashingo, 2019-10-17, 17:47
- Enjoyed the debate. Speaking of Bright Dust... - Oholiab, 2019-10-18, 08:36
  - Enjoyed the debate. Speaking of Bright Dust... - EffortlessFury, 2019-10-18, 09:12
    - Enjoyed the debate. Speaking of Bright Dust... - Harmanimus, 2019-10-18, 09:48
      - Got it. Very helpful - thanks! - Oholiab, 2019-10-18, 12:38

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