He absolutely nails it.
Saying a game has microtransactions is a giant generalization, really, it is an open ended comment. What can you buy? Can you buy a cosmetic hat? Or can I spend a buck to go to the top of the leaderboard? Can I buy a bigger gun?
This.
That said…
’m tired of EA being seen as “the bad guy.” I think it’s bullshit that EA has the “scumbag EA” memes on Reddit and that Good Guy Valve can Do No Wrong.
The debate on microtransactions is orthogonal here. EA is Scumbag EA and Valve is Good Guy Valve for all the other shitty things that EA has done over the years whilst Valve has been a proactive pro-consumer force. They are too many to list here, but things like unaccountable account-wide bans, terrible customer service, upselling adverts in-game, announcing PvZ 2 then firing the entire PvZ team a week later etc. etc. I agree they have an image issue, but that image is reflective of a pretty shitty and at times consumer-hostile corporation.
Complete thread:
- EA Games, Challenge Everything *OT* -
Avateur,
2013-02-27, 12:01
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- Who cares? -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 12:33
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Avateur,
2013-02-27, 12:39
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 12:44
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Avateur,
2013-02-27, 12:51
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 12:58
- Yeah. - UnrealCh13f, 2013-02-27, 13:23
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
bluerunner,
2013-02-27, 13:32
- Was this a feature at launch? -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 13:35
- Was this a feature at launch? -
bluerunner,
2013-02-27, 13:59
- So I was half right about BF3. - bryan newman, 2013-02-27, 14:46
- Was this a feature at launch? -
bluerunner,
2013-02-27, 13:59
- Was this a feature at launch? -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 13:35
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 12:58
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
uberfoop,
2013-02-27, 13:03
- I will use Dead Space 3 as my example. -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 13:19
- I will use Dead Space 3 as my example. - uberfoop, 2013-02-27, 13:27
- I will use Dead Space 3 as my example. -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 13:19
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-02-27, 14:06
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Xenos,
2013-02-27, 14:42
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
uberfoop,
2013-02-27, 15:37
- Obviously me, and many, many others - narcogen, 2013-02-28, 23:21
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-02-27, 15:53
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Leisandir,
2013-02-27, 17:21
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-02-27, 17:28
- Obviously me, and many, many others - Leisandir, 2013-02-27, 20:47
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-02-27, 17:28
- Obviously me, and many, many others - General Vagueness, 2013-03-01, 16:26
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Leisandir,
2013-02-27, 17:21
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
uberfoop,
2013-02-27, 15:37
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
narcogen,
2013-02-28, 23:19
- YES -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-01, 10:57
- YES - ZackDark, 2013-03-01, 11:15
- YES - mnemesis, 2013-03-01, 12:00
- YES -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-01, 10:57
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Xenos,
2013-02-27, 14:42
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
iZac,
2013-02-27, 22:08
- Obviously me, and many, many others - bryan newman, 2013-02-28, 02:13
- That game is called Aliens: Colonial Marines.
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Leisandir,
2013-02-28, 04:40
- That game is called Aliens: Colonial Marines. -
iZac,
2013-02-28, 09:08
- That game is called Aliens: Colonial Marines. -
Leisandir,
2013-02-28, 17:27
- That game is called Aliens: Colonial Marines. - iZac, 2013-03-01, 19:42
- That game is called Aliens: Colonial Marines. -
Leisandir,
2013-02-28, 17:27
- That game is called Aliens: Colonial Marines. -
iZac,
2013-02-28, 09:08
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-01, 10:51
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-01, 11:43
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Xenos,
2013-03-01, 11:45
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-01, 13:14
- Obviously me, and many, many others - ZackDark, 2013-03-01, 13:27
- Wow. That's all I have to say, just wow. -
Xenos,
2013-03-01, 13:30
- Yep. You just lost me. -
thebruce,
2013-03-01, 14:40
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
General Vagueness,
2013-03-01, 17:27
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Xenos,
2013-03-01, 17:33
- +1 -
Kermit,
2013-03-02, 00:22
- +1
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Xenos,
2013-03-01, 17:33
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Beckx,
2013-03-02, 06:36
- +1 -
SonofMacPhisto,
2013-03-02, 07:16
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2013-03-02, 07:44
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Beckx,
2013-03-02, 07:55
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2013-03-02, 08:15
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Beckx,
2013-03-02, 08:51
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-02, 15:53
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-02, 22:10
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Kermit,
2013-03-03, 07:55
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? - Mr Daax, 2013-03-05, 20:44
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Kermit,
2013-03-03, 07:55
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-02, 22:10
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-02, 15:53
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Beckx,
2013-03-02, 08:51
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2013-03-02, 08:15
- "Microtransactions make that possible"? Was that sarcasm? -
Beckx,
2013-03-02, 07:55
- Not defending the business people, defending the developers - Xenos, 2013-03-02, 09:14
- +1
- Obviously me, and many, many others - SonofMacPhisto, 2013-03-02, 07:14
- Dude! - Jillybean, 2013-03-02, 10:03
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-01, 13:14
- Obviously me, and many, many others - thebruce, 2013-03-01, 12:03
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-01, 13:11
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-01, 13:28
- Obviously me, and many, many others - Cody Miller, 2013-03-01, 13:43
- Obviously me, and many, many others - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2013-03-02, 07:47
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Jillybean,
2013-03-02, 10:59
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-02, 15:40
- Obviously me, and many, many others - Jillybean, 2013-03-02, 16:52
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-02, 15:40
- I liked the Library. -
Malagate,
2013-03-01, 13:34
- Not everybody does. I find it relaxing. Best played late. -
scarab,
2013-03-03, 11:32
- Not everybody does. I find it relaxing. Best played late.
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-01, 13:28
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Xenos,
2013-03-01, 11:45
- Obviously me, and many, many others - General Vagueness, 2013-03-01, 16:44
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-01, 11:43
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Avateur,
2013-02-27, 12:51
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 12:44
- Obviously me, and many, many others -
Avateur,
2013-02-27, 12:39
- why Microtransactions, F2P are good for you -
electricpirate,
2013-02-27, 13:31
- LOL -
Cody Miller,
2013-02-27, 14:18
- LOL - kapowaz, 2013-02-27, 14:24
- LOL - electricpirate, 2013-02-27, 16:43
- Insert coin to continue -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2013-02-28, 19:22
- Insert coin to continue - Jillybean, 2013-03-02, 10:14
- Bars. -
Malagate,
2013-02-27, 14:58
- Bars. -
mnemesis,
2013-02-27, 20:57
- Get the pitchforks -
Leviathan,
2013-02-27, 23:19
- Shenanigans! - Revenant1988, 2013-02-28, 06:36
- Get the pitchforks -
Leviathan,
2013-02-27, 23:19
- Bars. - Cody Miller, 2013-02-28, 09:40
- Bars. -
mnemesis,
2013-02-27, 20:57
- LOL -
Cody Miller,
2013-02-27, 14:18
- EA Games, Challenge Everything *OT* -
petetheduck,
2013-02-28, 09:35
- Could not agree more -
kidtsunami,
2013-03-01, 01:07
- Could not agree more
- Welcome to Paymium models. - Beckx, 2013-02-28, 10:28
- EA Games, Challenge Everything *OT* - SIX min WHISTLE, 2013-02-28, 14:35
- Honestly I think this debate is getting pointless... -
Xenos,
2013-02-28, 19:57
- Honestly I think this debate is getting pointless... - Kalamari, 2013-03-01, 11:24
- Honestly I think this debate is getting pointless... -
Avateur,
2013-03-01, 19:12
- Honestly I think this debate is getting pointless... - Xenos, 2013-03-01, 19:22
- EA Games, Challenge Everything *OT* - Phoenix_9286, 2013-02-28, 20:21
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me -
Avateur,
2013-03-02, 20:10
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me -
Kermit,
2013-03-03, 10:02
- Reply 1 -
Avateur,
2013-03-03, 18:55
- Reply 2 - Avateur, 2013-03-03, 18:56
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions -
RC,
2013-03-04, 07:16
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions -
kapowaz,
2013-03-04, 07:20
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions -
Kermit,
2013-03-04, 08:49
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions - kapowaz, 2013-03-04, 08:55
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions -
Kermit,
2013-03-04, 08:49
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions - Avateur, 2013-03-04, 16:53
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-04, 19:15
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions - Xenos, 2013-03-04, 19:26
- You forget, Halo: Reach DID have micro-transactions -
kapowaz,
2013-03-04, 07:20
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me - NsU Soldier, 2013-03-03, 19:29
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me -
Cody Miller,
2013-03-04, 00:53
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me - kapowaz, 2013-03-04, 01:49
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me - thebruce, 2013-03-04, 06:48
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me - Kermit, 2013-03-04, 16:03
- Reply 1 -
Avateur,
2013-03-03, 18:55
- He absolutely nails it. - kapowaz, 2013-03-03, 23:33
- Apparently Cliffy B really disagrees with me -
Kermit,
2013-03-03, 10:02
- Funny thing about Mirco-transactions (in my experience) -
Revenant1988,
2013-03-04, 10:04
- EA claims that's not what they meant -
Xenos,
2013-03-06, 10:26
- EA claims that's not what they meant - Avateur, 2013-03-06, 10:57
- And they awoke to find it all had been a dream. -
Kermit,
2013-03-06, 11:59
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking -
Avateur,
2013-03-06, 12:10
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking -
Kermit,
2013-03-06, 13:03
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-06, 13:15
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking - Kermit, 2013-03-06, 13:22
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking -
Claude Errera,
2013-03-06, 13:15
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking -
Kermit,
2013-03-06, 13:03
- Or they awoke to find EA backtracking -
Avateur,
2013-03-06, 12:10
- EA claims that's not what they meant -
Xenos,
2013-03-06, 10:26
- Who cares? -
bryan newman,
2013-02-27, 12:33