It was too obvious a visual image (Destiny)

by General Vagueness , The Vault of Sass, Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 19:28 (3936 days ago) @ Cody Miller
edited by General Vagueness, Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 19:34

OTOH 20 seconds of a bunch of guardians unloading into a cave makes the point too well. Bungie couldn't tolerate the negative publicity that that image provides. They had to fix it.

But the point still stands that these people would rather do this incredibly boring stupid activity than engage with the investment system as Bungie intended. This is proof right there that the investment system is so bad, people would rather shoot into a cave for hours than play with it. People are literally saying "Your investment system is even worse than pulling nothing but right trigger for 2 hours straight."

This is not just a few wackos, but a large enough segment of the player population that it became a big deal. At one point, I could not go to skywatch without seeing people in front of that cave.

Sure, except, again, there are multiple reasons for that, which have been brought up almost every time the cave or similar areas have been talked about: maybe it's because it's something mindless to do for a while, maybe all the better to do with friends; maybe they like shooting at things without stress or difficulty; maybe it's just something about all the shiny objects, or all the new loot, regardless of usefulness; maybe they like the intended overall process and they just want to mix things up a bit or speed up part of it. You're putting a decent amount of effort into fitting this (and nearly everything about Destiny) into your philosophical paradigm of investment systems being bad instead of looking for reasons. I mean, you could be right, but that's something you should conclude after you've looked at the data-- in this case, what was actually going through the heads of people doing this, what their actual reasons were-- and this is one issue (one of relatively few) where it seems like you're not.