It was too obvious a visual image (Destiny)

by Claude Errera , Tuesday, October 14, 2014, 18:04 (3937 days ago) @ Cody Miller

OTOH 20 seconds of a bunch of guardians unloading into a cave makes the point too well. Bungie couldn't tolerate the negative publicity that that image provides. They had to fix it.

But the point still stands that these people would rather do this incredibly boring stupid activity than engage with the investment system as Bungie intended. This is proof right there that the investment system is so bad, people would rather shoot into a cave for hours than play with it. People are literally saying "Your investment system is even worse than pulling nothing but right trigger for 2 hours straight."

No. People are shooting into the cave. They are not literally saying ANYTHING.

In fact, your 'literal statement' is actually your belief of what their motivation is - and it's pretty simplistic. They could very easily be saying "I really want X gun, but don't have time to earn it the way Bungie intended me to. I'm going to farm engrams for a while in the hopes that I get it faster - or that I earn enough OTHER stuff that I can buy it." Which is absolutely not the same thing.

Someone already did the math to prove that loot caves are actually not successful at getting people what they want - but it doesn't stop them from trying. Just like explaining to someone that the chances of winning the powerball jackpot are 375 million to one or something (meaning you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning, twice, in your bedroom, than you do of winning the jackpot) won't stop some people from buying tickets in the hopes of winning.

The investment system is not to your liking - but that doesn't make it bad, and it is not true that everyone who tries to game it thinks it's bad.

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Hotfix incoming... - Korny, 2014-10-13, 16:49
- Hotfix incoming... - Beorn, 2014-10-13, 16:57
- Hotfix incoming... - SIX min WHISTLE, 2014-10-13, 16:59
- I really hope they playtested the hell out of the Mythoclast - UnrealCh13f, 2014-10-13, 17:04
- Hotfix incoming... - uberfoop, 2014-10-13, 17:38
- lmao at Templar chang - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-10-13, 17:42
  - lmao at Templar chang - Korny, 2014-10-13, 17:48
    - Keeping them off platforms is the stupidest decision. - Riceamike, 2014-10-14, 11:42
      - Keeping them off platforms is the stupidest decision. - Cody Miller, 2014-10-14, 16:47
- I seriously don't get some of this - Avateur, 2014-10-13, 18:11
  - I seriously don't get some of this - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-10-13, 18:26
    - Like the Nexus's spawn point or even worse? - ZackDark, 2014-10-13, 18:26
      - Worse - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-10-13, 19:29
        
        Worse - ZackDark, 2014-10-13, 19:31
        
        Worse - Avateur, 2014-10-13, 20:05
        
        Worse - rliebherr, 2014-10-14, 10:43
        
        Worse - Avateur, 2014-10-14, 11:10
  - I seriously don't get some of this - Ragashingo, 2014-10-13, 18:38
  - I seriously don't get some of this - Cody Miller, 2014-10-13, 18:51
    - Which is a joke cause the lack of gear end game gear. - Injunfett, 2014-10-13, 18:54
    - I seriously don't get some of this - Ragashingo, 2014-10-13, 19:05
      - I seriously don't get some of this - Cody Miller, 2014-10-13, 19:20
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - Ragashingo, 2014-10-13, 19:49
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - Korny, 2014-10-14, 01:44
        
        Objective information is nice - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-10-14, 08:25
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - Avateur, 2014-10-14, 11:16
        
        So Halo 2 superbounce was fine? - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-10-14, 06:53
        
        So Halo 2 superbounce was fine? - Schedonnardus, 2014-10-14, 09:41
      - I seriously don't get some of this - Injunfett, 2014-10-13, 19:24
        
        I've tried the cheese method and it's stupid - Kahzgul, 2014-10-13, 19:31
        
        I've tried the cheese method and it's stupid - Injunfett, 2014-10-13, 19:42
        
        I've tried the cheese method and it's stupid - Ragashingo, 2014-10-13, 19:54
        
        I've tried the cheese method and it's stupid - DiscipleN2k, 2014-10-14, 11:25
        
        I've tried the cheese method and it's 10x faster than normal - Riceamike, 2014-10-14, 11:45
      - I seriously don't get some of this - Avateur, 2014-10-13, 20:08
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - Ragashingo, 2014-10-13, 20:33
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - Avateur, 2014-10-13, 20:41
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - Ragashingo, 2014-10-13, 20:45
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - Avateur, 2014-10-13, 22:14
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - Ragashingo, 2014-10-14, 00:57
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - Avateur, 2014-10-14, 11:55
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - General Vagueness, 2014-10-14, 13:59
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - Avateur, 2014-10-14, 14:22
        
        I've gotten ascendant energy from chests before - Schedonnardus, 2014-10-14, 21:26
        
        I've gotten ascendant energy from chests before - General Vagueness, 2014-10-16, 14:18
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - Cody Miller, 2014-10-14, 16:41
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - General Vagueness, 2014-10-14, 12:30
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - Kermit, 2014-10-14, 13:34
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - Avateur, 2014-10-14, 13:38
        
        It was too obvious a visual image - scarab, 2014-10-14, 15:55
        
        It was too obvious a visual image - Cody Miller, 2014-10-14, 16:25
        
        It was too obvious a visual image - Claude Errera, 2014-10-14, 18:04
        
        Gaming the system =/= disliking the system, basically - someotherguy, 2014-10-14, 20:14
        
        It was too obvious a visual image - General Vagueness, 2014-10-14, 19:28
        
        I did cave farming so I get the point - scarab, 2014-10-14, 22:44
        
        I must be an outlier - Schedonnardus, 2014-10-15, 06:54
        
        Me too (on the other side) - Claude Errera, 2014-10-15, 08:32
        
        Ouch - Schedonnardus, 2014-10-15, 09:09
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - Kermit, 2014-10-14, 17:14
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - General Vagueness, 2014-10-14, 14:04
  - I'm not a happy camper! - Injunfett, 2014-10-13, 18:52
    - I'm not a happy camper! - Cody Miller, 2014-10-13, 18:57
      - I'm not a happy camper! - Injunfett, 2014-10-13, 19:14
    - lrn 2 reed, campa - RC, 2014-10-13, 19:24
      - Oh I can read! - Injunfett, 2014-10-13, 19:38
        
        Listen to yourself - RC, 2014-10-14, 00:36
        
        You mean agree with your excuses. - Injunfett, 2014-10-14, 03:48
        
        You mean agree with your excuses. - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-10-14, 05:31
        
        You mean agree with your excuses. - Injunfett, 2014-10-14, 06:17
        
        You mean agree with your excuses. - RC, 2014-10-14, 07:00
        
        lol whatever you say brah - Injunfett, 2014-10-14, 07:40
        
        lol whatever you say brah - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-10-14, 08:39
        
        lol whatever you say brah - Injunfett, 2014-10-14, 10:54
        
        lol whatever you say brah - someotherguy, 2014-10-14, 20:29
    - I'm not a happy camper! - stabbim, 2014-10-13, 22:12
      - Huehuehue - Korny, 2014-10-14, 01:54
  - I seriously don't get some of this - someotherguy, 2014-10-13, 18:54
    - I seriously don't get some of this - Avateur, 2014-10-13, 20:17
      - I seriously don't get some of this - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-10-14, 05:33
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - stabbim, 2014-10-14, 08:07
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-10-14, 08:41
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - someotherguy, 2014-10-14, 16:29
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - stabbim, 2014-10-14, 22:51
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - someotherguy, 2014-10-15, 03:41
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - CaneCutter, 2014-10-15, 05:23
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - someotherguy, 2014-10-15, 05:52
        
        I seriously don't get some of this - CaneCutter, 2014-10-15, 06:15
- About that Fallen remark - ZackDark, 2014-10-13, 18:25
  - I'm curious about this, too - Kahzgul, 2014-10-13, 20:01
    - Deej confirmed it was a loot cave joke - Yapok, 2014-10-13, 21:35
- Hotfix incoming... - Velociraptor112, 2014-10-13, 18:26
- Pocket Semi-annual - iconicbanana, 2014-10-14, 08:31
  - Pocket Semi-annual - Korny, 2014-10-14, 10:01
    - Pocket Semi-annual - iconicbanana, 2014-10-14, 10:05
      - Speed Reload - Beorn, 2014-10-15, 07:25
        
        Speed Reload is perfect - iconicbanana, 2014-10-15, 07:39

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