I seriously don't get some of this (Destiny)
Now you're just guessing at motives. Might there be some truth there? Sure. But I'm tired of the "all Bungie wants is for you to suffer" pessimism game. :/
I am guessing at motives, but the motives are largely clear in the grand scheme of their design philosophy for Destiny. Bungie does not view your time as valuable in this game. They want it extended out as much as possible to keep you playing, preferably for the next ten years. Hence the purpose of the investment system. Once people find ways to make the system work in their favor and make it easier for themselves, it begs the question of why you even need that system. So things that make the system easier for the player will get abolished as quickly as possible.
There's no point to an investment system if you don't make sure its sanctity is upheld. The Raid gives out super good loot? The Raid is super hard? People found a way to make it super easy to get the super good loot and to beat the super hard Raid? That's unacceptable.
Queen's Wrath only gives out two Legendary types of armor. Once those and other Legendary armor are obtained, people need to upgrade that armor with Ascendant material. People can continue getting endless amounts of said material via bounties that provide missions for more armor to turn into the items they need to upgrade their current armor? Without actually doing much real work for those items? That's unacceptable.
The RNG and grind can be so unforgiving or drawn out that people are willing to spend hours shooting into a cave repetitively even though it's okay for Bungie to offer bounties demanding 200 Fallen headshots that are obnoxiously time consuming and take forever (as just one of many ridiculous bounty examples)? That's bypassing a system of making it not easy to obtain random drops and things. That's unacceptable.
I'm sure you get my point, and Cody's.
Complete thread:
- Hotfix incoming... -
Korny,
2014-10-13, 16:49
- Hotfix incoming... - Beorn, 2014-10-13, 16:57
- Hotfix incoming... - SIX min WHISTLE, 2014-10-13, 16:59
- I really hope they playtested the hell out of the Mythoclast - UnrealCh13f, 2014-10-13, 17:04
- Hotfix incoming... - uberfoop, 2014-10-13, 17:38
- lmao at Templar chang -
Spec ops Grunt,
2014-10-13, 17:42
- lmao at Templar chang -
Korny,
2014-10-13, 17:48
- Keeping them off platforms is the stupidest decision. -
Riceamike,
2014-10-14, 11:42
- Keeping them off platforms is the stupidest decision. - Cody Miller, 2014-10-14, 16:47
- Keeping them off platforms is the stupidest decision. -
Riceamike,
2014-10-14, 11:42
- lmao at Templar chang -
Korny,
2014-10-13, 17:48
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-13, 18:11
- I seriously don't get some of this - Spec ops Grunt, 2014-10-13, 18:26
- I seriously don't get some of this - Ragashingo, 2014-10-13, 18:38
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Cody Miller,
2014-10-13, 18:51
- Which is a joke cause the lack of gear end game gear.
- Injunfett, 2014-10-13, 18:54
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Ragashingo,
2014-10-13, 19:05
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Cody Miller,
2014-10-13, 19:20
- I seriously don't get some of this - Ragashingo, 2014-10-13, 19:49
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Korny,
2014-10-14, 01:44
- Objective information is nice - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-10-14, 08:25
- I seriously don't get some of this - Avateur, 2014-10-14, 11:16
- So Halo 2 superbounce was fine?
- Spec ops Grunt, 2014-10-14, 06:53
- So Halo 2 superbounce was fine? - Schedonnardus, 2014-10-14, 09:41
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Injunfett,
2014-10-13, 19:24
- I've tried the cheese method and it's stupid -
Kahzgul,
2014-10-13, 19:31
- I've tried the cheese method and it's stupid -
Injunfett,
2014-10-13, 19:42
- I've tried the cheese method and it's stupid -
Ragashingo,
2014-10-13, 19:54
- I've tried the cheese method and it's stupid - DiscipleN2k, 2014-10-14, 11:25
- I've tried the cheese method and it's stupid -
Ragashingo,
2014-10-13, 19:54
- I've tried the cheese method and it's 10x faster than normal - Riceamike, 2014-10-14, 11:45
- I've tried the cheese method and it's stupid -
Injunfett,
2014-10-13, 19:42
- I've tried the cheese method and it's stupid -
Kahzgul,
2014-10-13, 19:31
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-13, 20:08
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Ragashingo,
2014-10-13, 20:33
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-13, 20:41
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Ragashingo,
2014-10-13, 20:45
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-13, 22:14
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Ragashingo,
2014-10-14, 00:57
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-14, 11:55
- I seriously don't get some of this -
General Vagueness,
2014-10-14, 13:59
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-14, 14:22
- I've gotten ascendant energy from chests before -
Schedonnardus,
2014-10-14, 21:26
- I've gotten ascendant energy from chests before - General Vagueness, 2014-10-16, 14:18
- I've gotten ascendant energy from chests before -
Schedonnardus,
2014-10-14, 21:26
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-14, 14:22
- I seriously don't get some of this -
General Vagueness,
2014-10-14, 13:59
- I seriously don't get some of this - Cody Miller, 2014-10-14, 16:41
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-14, 11:55
- I seriously don't get some of this -
General Vagueness,
2014-10-14, 12:30
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Kermit,
2014-10-14, 13:34
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-14, 13:38
- It was too obvious a visual image -
scarab,
2014-10-14, 15:55
- It was too obvious a visual image -
Cody Miller,
2014-10-14, 16:25
- It was too obvious a visual image -
Claude Errera,
2014-10-14, 18:04
- Gaming the system =/= disliking the system, basically - someotherguy, 2014-10-14, 20:14
- It was too obvious a visual image - General Vagueness, 2014-10-14, 19:28
- I did cave farming so I get the point -
scarab,
2014-10-14, 22:44
- I must be an outlier -
Schedonnardus,
2014-10-15, 06:54
- Me too (on the other side) -
Claude Errera,
2014-10-15, 08:32
- Ouch - Schedonnardus, 2014-10-15, 09:09
- Me too (on the other side) -
Claude Errera,
2014-10-15, 08:32
- I must be an outlier -
Schedonnardus,
2014-10-15, 06:54
- It was too obvious a visual image -
Claude Errera,
2014-10-14, 18:04
- It was too obvious a visual image -
Cody Miller,
2014-10-14, 16:25
- I seriously don't get some of this - Kermit, 2014-10-14, 17:14
- It was too obvious a visual image -
scarab,
2014-10-14, 15:55
- I seriously don't get some of this - General Vagueness, 2014-10-14, 14:04
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-14, 13:38
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Kermit,
2014-10-14, 13:34
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Ragashingo,
2014-10-14, 00:57
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-13, 22:14
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Ragashingo,
2014-10-13, 20:45
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-13, 20:41
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Ragashingo,
2014-10-13, 20:33
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Cody Miller,
2014-10-13, 19:20
- Which is a joke cause the lack of gear end game gear.
- I'm not a happy camper! -
Injunfett,
2014-10-13, 18:52
- I'm not a happy camper! -
Cody Miller,
2014-10-13, 18:57
- I'm not a happy camper! - Injunfett, 2014-10-13, 19:14
- lrn 2 reed, campa -
RC,
2014-10-13, 19:24
- Oh I can read! -
Injunfett,
2014-10-13, 19:38
- Listen to yourself -
RC,
2014-10-14, 00:36
- You mean agree with your excuses. -
Injunfett,
2014-10-14, 03:48
- You mean agree with your excuses. -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-10-14, 05:31
- You mean agree with your excuses. -
Injunfett,
2014-10-14, 06:17
- You mean agree with your excuses. -
RC,
2014-10-14, 07:00
- lol whatever you say brah
- Injunfett, 2014-10-14, 07:40
- lol whatever you say brah -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-10-14, 08:39
- lol whatever you say brah -
Injunfett,
2014-10-14, 10:54
- lol whatever you say brah - someotherguy, 2014-10-14, 20:29
- lol whatever you say brah -
Injunfett,
2014-10-14, 10:54
- lol whatever you say brah -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-10-14, 08:39
- lol whatever you say brah
- You mean agree with your excuses. -
RC,
2014-10-14, 07:00
- You mean agree with your excuses. -
Injunfett,
2014-10-14, 06:17
- You mean agree with your excuses. -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-10-14, 05:31
- You mean agree with your excuses. -
Injunfett,
2014-10-14, 03:48
- Listen to yourself -
RC,
2014-10-14, 00:36
- Oh I can read! -
Injunfett,
2014-10-13, 19:38
- I'm not a happy camper! -
stabbim,
2014-10-13, 22:12
- Huehuehue
- Korny, 2014-10-14, 01:54
- Huehuehue
- I'm not a happy camper! -
Cody Miller,
2014-10-13, 18:57
- I seriously don't get some of this -
someotherguy,
2014-10-13, 18:54
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-13, 20:17
- I seriously don't get some of this -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-10-14, 05:33
- I seriously don't get some of this -
stabbim,
2014-10-14, 08:07
- I seriously don't get some of this -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-10-14, 08:41
- I seriously don't get some of this -
someotherguy,
2014-10-14, 16:29
- I seriously don't get some of this -
stabbim,
2014-10-14, 22:51
- I seriously don't get some of this -
someotherguy,
2014-10-15, 03:41
- I seriously don't get some of this -
CaneCutter,
2014-10-15, 05:23
- I seriously don't get some of this -
someotherguy,
2014-10-15, 05:52
- I seriously don't get some of this - CaneCutter, 2014-10-15, 06:15
- I seriously don't get some of this -
someotherguy,
2014-10-15, 05:52
- I seriously don't get some of this -
CaneCutter,
2014-10-15, 05:23
- I seriously don't get some of this -
someotherguy,
2014-10-15, 03:41
- I seriously don't get some of this -
stabbim,
2014-10-14, 22:51
- I seriously don't get some of this -
someotherguy,
2014-10-14, 16:29
- I seriously don't get some of this -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-10-14, 08:41
- I seriously don't get some of this -
stabbim,
2014-10-14, 08:07
- I seriously don't get some of this -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-10-14, 05:33
- I seriously don't get some of this -
Avateur,
2014-10-13, 20:17
- About that Fallen remark -
ZackDark,
2014-10-13, 18:25
- I'm curious about this, too -
Kahzgul,
2014-10-13, 20:01
- Deej confirmed it was a loot cave joke - Yapok, 2014-10-13, 21:35
- I'm curious about this, too -
Kahzgul,
2014-10-13, 20:01
- Hotfix incoming... - Velociraptor112, 2014-10-13, 18:26
- Pocket Semi-annual -
iconicbanana,
2014-10-14, 08:31
- Pocket Semi-annual -
Korny,
2014-10-14, 10:01
- Pocket Semi-annual -
iconicbanana,
2014-10-14, 10:05
- Speed Reload -
Beorn,
2014-10-15, 07:25
- Speed Reload is perfect - iconicbanana, 2014-10-15, 07:39
- Speed Reload -
Beorn,
2014-10-15, 07:25
- Pocket Semi-annual -
iconicbanana,
2014-10-14, 10:05
- Pocket Semi-annual -
Korny,
2014-10-14, 10:01