Also Interesting. (Destiny)
Halo was different because there was no reward to earn. The reward was, playing it and having fun. Whether it's matchmaking or customs with friends. Then they added ranks, and you had a little number by your name. With that, a little bit of fun died and sweat began to form. The chase of seeing that number go up consumed us.
Fast forward to now and how often do you play a game just for the fun of it. And I'm genuinely asking that question! The games I play, I have fun playing them but the thing I'm playing for is "to unlock this mod" or "to complete this challenge". It's the chase of that gratification.
And if we aren't constantly being served a gratifying moment, well it's hot garbage on fire and there's no other option.
Might derail the thread a bit, sorry.
A Producer working at Criterion on Black (2006) was quoted as saying "It's got to be fun to shoot a gun in an empty room". Meaning that a game has to be its own reward, fun just to play. I'd say most great games achieve this. But I don't really like the modern trend of style over substance.
For example, Alan Wake 2. Now it's very immersive, and I've been loving the story. But the gameplay is just the most basic 3rd person shooter you can get. I'd struggle to call it a good video game. They chose incredible production value over gameplay substance. AW2 feels more like modern Sony games. Incredible stories, but story isn't really important to a video game like it is for a movie or comic etc. Gameplay is what sets video games apart.
You can have a great game with a bad story, but you can't have a good game with bad gameplay.
Complete thread:
- Bungie turmoil -
Avateur,
2023-12-06, 07:48
- Bungie turmoil -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-06, 08:26
- Bungie turmoil -
cheapLEY,
2023-12-06, 09:19
- Y’all are rooting for them to pull through, though, right? -
Coaxkez,
2023-12-06, 10:28
- Y’all are rooting for them to pull through, though, right? -
kidtsunami,
2023-12-06, 10:56
- Y’all are rooting for them to pull through, though, right? - Coaxkez, 2023-12-06, 10:59
- Y’all are rooting for them to pull through, though, right? -
kidtsunami,
2023-12-06, 10:56
- Bungie turmoil - Robot Chickens, 2023-12-06, 11:45
- Y’all are rooting for them to pull through, though, right? -
Coaxkez,
2023-12-06, 10:28
- Bungie turmoil -
cheapLEY,
2023-12-06, 09:19
- Sad Indeed -
Robot Chickens,
2023-12-06, 09:17
- Sad Indeed -
Kermit,
2023-12-06, 11:08
- Sad Indeed -
Coaxkez,
2023-12-06, 11:13
- Sad Indeed -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-06, 11:30
- That is where we differ. -
Coaxkez,
2023-12-06, 11:34
- That is where we differ. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-06, 12:12
- That is where we differ. - Coaxkez, 2023-12-06, 12:14
- That is where we differ. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-06, 12:12
- That is where we differ. -
Coaxkez,
2023-12-06, 11:34
- Sad Indeed - Kermit, 2023-12-06, 12:14
- Sad Indeed -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-06, 11:30
- An alternate explanation -
Robot Chickens,
2023-12-06, 12:05
- An alternate explanation - Kermit, 2023-12-06, 12:17
- An alternate explanation -
cheapLEY,
2023-12-06, 16:33
- An alternate explanation -
Kermit,
2023-12-06, 17:07
- Who's Killing Cinema? -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-06, 17:38
- Who's Killing Cinema? - Kermit, 2023-12-07, 15:30
- Who's Killing Cinema? -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-06, 17:38
- An alternate explanation -
Kermit,
2023-12-06, 17:07
- Sad Indeed - Cody Miller, 2023-12-06, 12:19
- Sad Indeed -
Avateur,
2023-12-06, 13:57
- Sad Indeed - Kermit, 2023-12-06, 16:55
- Sad Indeed -
Coaxkez,
2023-12-06, 11:13
- Sad Indeed -
Kermit,
2023-12-06, 11:08
- Management needs to be cleaned out big-time. - Coaxkez, 2023-12-06, 10:51
- Bungie turmoil - Captain Spark, 2023-12-07, 06:39
- Ugh -
kidtsunami,
2023-12-07, 07:23
- Ugh -
Coaxkez,
2023-12-07, 07:27
- Interesting. -
Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316),
2023-12-07, 07:56
- Interesting. -
kidtsunami,
2023-12-07, 07:58
- Interesting. -
Korny,
2023-12-07, 09:16
- Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-07, 09:37
- Interesting. -
Robot Chickens,
2023-12-07, 11:11
- Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-07, 11:22
- Interesting. -
Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316),
2023-12-07, 12:15
- Interesting. -
Avateur,
2023-12-07, 13:24
- <3 - kidtsunami, 2023-12-07, 19:16
- Interesting. -
Avateur,
2023-12-07, 13:24
- Just verified. It’s glorious - Robot Chickens, 2023-12-07, 23:05
- Interesting. -
Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316),
2023-12-07, 12:15
- Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-07, 11:22
- Interesting. -
Robot Chickens,
2023-12-07, 11:11
- Interesting. -
cheapLEY,
2023-12-07, 12:28
- Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-07, 12:35
- Interesting. -
Vortech,
2023-12-17, 09:30
- Interesting. - EffortlessFury, 2023-12-17, 14:31
- Interesting. -
Vortech,
2023-12-17, 09:30
- Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-07, 12:35
- Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-07, 09:37
- Interesting. -
Korny,
2023-12-07, 09:16
- Interesting. -
ManKitten,
2023-12-07, 08:09
- Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-07, 08:12
- Interesting. -
EffortlessFury,
2023-12-07, 12:02
- Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-07, 12:32
- DnD and leveling ruined everything -
kidtsunami,
2023-12-07, 14:41
- DnD and leveling ruined everything - Cody Miller, 2023-12-07, 15:23
- DnD and leveling ruined everything -
kidtsunami,
2023-12-07, 14:41
- Interesting. -
Avateur,
2023-12-07, 13:29
- Interesting. -
EffortlessFury,
2023-12-08, 03:30
- Interesting. -
Avateur,
2023-12-08, 17:08
- Interesting. -
EffortlessFury,
2023-12-08, 17:36
- Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-08, 19:17
- Interesting. -
EffortlessFury,
2023-12-10, 01:10
- Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-10, 09:33
- Interesting. -
EffortlessFury,
2023-12-10, 10:46
- Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-10, 10:58
- Interesting. -
EffortlessFury,
2023-12-10, 11:06
- Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-10, 11:37
- Interesting. -
EffortlessFury,
2023-12-10, 11:44
- Interesting. - Cody Miller, 2023-12-10, 12:47
- Interesting. -
EffortlessFury,
2023-12-10, 11:51
- Interesting. - Cody Miller, 2023-12-10, 12:48
- Interesting. -
EffortlessFury,
2023-12-10, 11:44
- Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-10, 11:37
- Interesting. -
EffortlessFury,
2023-12-10, 11:06
- Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-10, 10:58
- Really should sit and ruminate before posting. - EffortlessFury, 2023-12-10, 12:44
- Counterpoint: Fortnight (sp?) - Vortech, 2023-12-17, 09:36
- Interesting. -
EffortlessFury,
2023-12-10, 10:46
- Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-10, 09:33
- Interesting. -
EffortlessFury,
2023-12-10, 01:10
- Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-08, 19:17
- Interesting. -
EffortlessFury,
2023-12-08, 17:36
- Interesting. -
Avateur,
2023-12-08, 17:08
- Interesting. -
EffortlessFury,
2023-12-08, 03:30
- Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-07, 12:32
- Interesting. -
EffortlessFury,
2023-12-07, 12:02
- Interesting. - Coaxkez, 2023-12-07, 08:22
- Also Interesting. -
Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316),
2023-12-07, 13:39
- Also Interesting. -
cheapLEY,
2023-12-07, 14:23
- Also Interesting. -
Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316),
2023-12-07, 17:03
- Also Interesting. - cheapLEY, 2023-12-07, 17:28
- Also Interesting. -
Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316),
2023-12-07, 17:03
- Also Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-07, 15:27
- Also Interesting. - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2023-12-07, 16:13
- Also Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-07, 17:23
- Also GTA - Vortech, 2023-12-17, 09:37
- Also Interesting. -
cheapLEY,
2023-12-07, 14:23
- Playing for 'fun' is still possible, it just seems harder -
Revenant1988,
2023-12-07, 19:20
- You all just need to play less bullshit. -
cheapLEY,
2023-12-07, 19:34
- You all just need to play less bullshit. - Revenant1988, 2023-12-07, 19:47
- You all just need to play less bullshit. - Cody Miller, 2023-12-07, 19:56
- Playing for 'fun' is still possible, it just seems harder -
Kermit,
2023-12-08, 11:14
- Playing for 'fun' is still possible, it just seems harder -
Avateur,
2023-12-08, 16:59
- People in glass houses and all that - kidtsunami, 2023-12-08, 18:39
- Playing for 'fun' is still possible, it just seems harder -
Kermit,
2023-12-08, 21:19
- Playing for 'fun' is still possible, it just seems harder -
Avateur,
2023-12-09, 21:51
- Playing for 'fun' is still possible, it just seems harder - Kermit, 2023-12-11, 08:12
- Playing for 'fun' is still possible, it just seems harder -
EffortlessFury,
2023-12-10, 11:17
- Playing for 'fun' is still possible, it just seems harder -
Kermit,
2023-12-10, 19:36
- Playing for 'fun' is still possible, it just seems harder -
uberfoop,
2023-12-11, 15:24
- Playing for 'fun' is still possible, it just seems harder - Kermit, 2023-12-11, 17:37
- Playing for 'fun' is still possible, it just seems harder -
uberfoop,
2023-12-11, 15:24
- Playing for 'fun' is still possible, it just seems harder -
Kermit,
2023-12-10, 19:36
- Playing for 'fun' is still possible, it just seems harder -
Avateur,
2023-12-09, 21:51
- Playing for 'fun' is still possible, it just seems harder -
Avateur,
2023-12-08, 16:59
- You all just need to play less bullshit. -
cheapLEY,
2023-12-07, 19:34
- Interesting. -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-07, 08:12
- Interesting. -
kidtsunami,
2023-12-07, 07:58
- That's like, your opinion man - kidtsunami, 2023-12-07, 07:59
- Ugh - Cody Miller, 2023-12-07, 08:04
- Interesting. -
Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316),
2023-12-07, 07:56
- Ugh -
Coaxkez,
2023-12-07, 07:27
- Bungie turmoil -
Cody Miller,
2023-12-06, 08:26