::sigh:: (Destiny)
I *AM* doing something about it. I am currently not playing Destiny 2. I have not purchased the current season pass, and I do not intend to. I have not claimed these "rewards" this system says I am entitled to, because I don't think they should exist. And I am here, on this forum and elsewhere, expressing the opinion that developers and publishers should not engage in anti-consumer practices, that media and consumers should call out developers and publishers, even ones they LIKE, for engaging in anti-consumer practices, and take into account these practices when making decisions about what games to buy, what services to subscribe to, and what games to play and support.
If you had come in here, when this thread was heating up with opinions about which side of whatever line in the sand Bungie was on today, and made some of these points in your inimitable way, I wouldn't have said a word.
Hell - if you had come in late (as you did), and made your points as you have in the last couple of posts, I wouldn't have said a word.
But you didn't.
You came in late, and you came in with drive-by snark, and you didn't follow it up with anything else germane to the state of the industry for 40 more posts (about a day). I mean... you posted between that drive-by and your discussion of the current problems with the industry... but it was mostly about how it was okay to take shots at Cheapley.
I'm not saying you have to stay on topic here. (I mean, if that were a rule, we'd have closed down years ago.) I'm saying you're being disingenuous if you're trying to claim that your involvement in this thread has been about a discussion on the industry. (Your last comment on this subject was "If this is the level of incivility that justifies a thread lock it's simply not going to be possible to discuss anything of any import regarding the industry." Dude - you weren't discussing the industry - you were adding to a general level of hostility here that makes ME tired... and I'm probably the most patient reader this forum has.)
I was disappointed that this place has gotten so combative that even NARCOGEN feels comfortable coming in with a cheap shot, and not much else until I threaten to shut the thread off. That's all.
I quit Facebook because my country's politics are like this. I used to come here to escape from the constant fighting. But it's here now. And that sucks.
Complete thread:
- Ugh, you can now buy SUROS Regime with real money -
someotherguy,
2020-01-29, 12:37
- Ugh, you can now buy SUROS Regime with real money -
squidnh3,
2020-01-29, 13:23
- Bit reductive and you know it -
someotherguy,
2020-01-29, 13:42
- Bit reductive and you know it -
Cody Miller,
2020-01-29, 13:54
- Bit reductive and you know it -
narcogen,
2020-01-30, 12:14
- Based on this thread and the reddit post... - someotherguy, 2020-01-30, 12:16
- Bit reductive and you know it -
narcogen,
2020-01-30, 12:14
- Who cares? -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-29, 14:34
- Who cares? - stabbim, 2020-01-29, 14:40
- Who cares? -
EffortlessFury,
2020-01-29, 15:01
- Who cares? -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-29, 15:06
- You said "Who cares?" Plenty of people care. -
EffortlessFury,
2020-01-29, 15:47
- But cheapLEY doesn't. Therefore nor should we -
someotherguy,
2020-01-29, 15:51
- Take that shit somewhere else. -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-29, 16:51
- I'm sorry, was that not the Tl;Dr of your aggressive apathy? -
someotherguy,
2020-01-29, 16:53
- No. -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-29, 17:18
- Words Mean Things -
someotherguy,
2020-01-29, 17:24
- Words Mean Things -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-29, 17:33
- They're both dismissive, only one is valid. - EffortlessFury, 2020-01-29, 17:41
- Words Mean Things -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-29, 17:33
- Words Mean Things -
someotherguy,
2020-01-29, 17:24
- No. -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-29, 17:18
- I'm sorry, was that not the Tl;Dr of your aggressive apathy? -
someotherguy,
2020-01-29, 16:53
- Take that shit somewhere else. -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-29, 16:51
- But cheapLEY doesn't. Therefore nor should we -
someotherguy,
2020-01-29, 15:51
- Who cares? -
someotherguy,
2020-01-29, 15:55
- Who cares? -
Claude Errera,
2020-01-29, 22:15
- Someone will -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 04:56
- Where are you getting that? -
Claude Errera,
2020-01-30, 10:45
- Where are you getting that? -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 11:49
- Where are you getting that? -
Claude Errera,
2020-01-30, 12:01
- Where are you getting that? -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 12:10
- Where are you getting that? - Harmanimus, 2020-01-30, 13:08
- Where are you getting that? -
narcogen,
2020-01-30, 12:24
- Where are you getting that? -
Harmanimus,
2020-01-30, 13:17
- Hold Up -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 15:20
- Hold Up -
Harmanimus,
2020-01-31, 02:06
- I'll stop getting angry about it when they stop doing it - someotherguy, 2020-01-31, 02:44
- Hold Up -
Harmanimus,
2020-01-31, 02:06
- Hold Up -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 15:20
- Where are you getting that? -
Claude Errera,
2020-01-30, 13:51
- Where are you getting that? -
Kermit,
2020-01-30, 14:42
- Where are you getting that? -
Claude Errera,
2020-01-30, 15:25
- X Doubt -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 15:26
- X Doubt -
Claude Errera,
2020-01-30, 15:30
- X Doubt -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 15:34
- X Doubt -
marmot 1333,
2020-01-31, 10:23
- That's sort of my point - someotherguy, 2020-01-31, 10:37
- X Doubt -
marmot 1333,
2020-01-31, 10:23
- X Doubt -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 15:34
- X Doubt -
Claude Errera,
2020-01-30, 15:30
- X Doubt -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 15:26
- Where are you getting that? -
Claude Errera,
2020-01-30, 15:25
- Where are you getting that? -
Kermit,
2020-01-30, 14:42
- Where are you getting that? -
Harmanimus,
2020-01-30, 13:17
- Where are you getting that? -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 12:10
- Where are you getting that? -
Claude Errera,
2020-01-30, 12:01
- Where are you getting that? -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 11:49
- Where are you getting that? -
Claude Errera,
2020-01-30, 10:45
- Who cares? -
narcogen,
2020-01-30, 12:17
- Who cares? -
Claude Errera,
2020-01-30, 13:52
- Lemme fix that for you -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 15:25
- Lemme fix that for you -
Claude Errera,
2020-01-30, 15:28
- Not really how words work, is it -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 15:33
- Addendum -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 15:37
- Addendum -
Claude Errera,
2020-01-30, 15:39
- Addendum -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 15:46
- Addendum - narcogen, 2020-01-30, 18:17
- Not the least bit unfair. -
narcogen,
2020-01-30, 18:14
- Not the least bit unfair. -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-30, 18:52
- Not sarcasm - someotherguy, 2020-01-31, 01:06
- Oh its a Trump thing. -
someotherguy,
2020-01-31, 02:47
- Replied to wrong parent post. RIP. - someotherguy, 2020-01-31, 05:39
- Being a jerk. -
narcogen,
2020-01-31, 09:04
- Thanks for voicing your (and my) thoughts succinctly -
EffortlessFury,
2020-01-31, 09:12
- +1 - someotherguy, 2020-01-31, 09:20
- Being a jerk. -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-31, 09:33
- Being a jerk. -
EffortlessFury,
2020-01-31, 09:51
- Being a jerk. -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-31, 10:01
- Being a jerk. -
someotherguy,
2020-01-31, 10:41
- Being a jerk. -
Claude Errera,
2020-01-31, 10:54
- Being a jerk. - someotherguy, 2020-01-31, 13:42
- Being a jerk. -
Claude Errera,
2020-01-31, 10:54
- Being a jerk. -
someotherguy,
2020-01-31, 10:41
- Being a jerk. -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-31, 10:01
- Being a jerk. -
narcogen,
2020-02-01, 08:42
- Being a jerk. -
cheapLEY,
2020-02-01, 09:43
- Being a jerk. -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-01, 10:14
- Being a jerk. -
narcogen,
2020-02-02, 07:59
- Being a jerk. -
Korny,
2020-02-02, 08:22
- "Narc is reading too much into it" *conjures 3 paragraphs* - someotherguy, 2020-02-02, 09:10
- Being a jerk. - cheapLEY, 2020-02-02, 09:15
- Being a jerk. -
narcogen,
2020-02-03, 08:18
- Being a jerk. -
someotherguy,
2020-02-03, 09:12
- Being a jerk. -
cheapLEY,
2020-02-03, 14:57
- Being a jerk. -
someotherguy,
2020-02-03, 15:49
- Being a jerk. -
Claude Errera,
2020-02-03, 16:29
- Being a jerk. - Korny, 2020-02-03, 18:08
- Y'all goin' to make Wu turn this car around. - INSANEdrive, 2020-02-03, 18:29
- Being a jerk. - someotherguy, 2020-02-03, 23:12
- The Last Word - narcogen, 2020-02-04, 08:30
- Being a jerk. -
Claude Errera,
2020-02-03, 16:29
- I Just Want To Say. - Morpheus, 2020-02-03, 21:20
- In retrospect, I was not being a jerk -
narcogen,
2020-02-04, 08:19
- In retrospect, I was not being a jerk -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-04, 08:44
- In retrospect, I was not being a jerk - narcogen, 2020-02-07, 07:47
- ::sigh:: -
Claude Errera,
2020-02-04, 08:50
- ::sigh:: -
Korny,
2020-02-04, 09:44
- ::sigh:: - cheapLEY, 2020-02-04, 10:01
- I was trying to avoid the C-word - someotherguy, 2020-02-04, 11:16
- Speaking of overly sensitive - someotherguy, 2020-02-04, 11:19
- ::sigh:: - INSANEdrive, 2020-02-04, 12:25
- 40 posts late and $1 short - narcogen, 2020-02-07, 08:18
- ::sigh:: -
Korny,
2020-02-04, 09:44
- In retrospect, I was not being a jerk -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-04, 08:44
- Being a jerk. -
someotherguy,
2020-02-03, 15:49
- Being a jerk. -
cheapLEY,
2020-02-03, 14:57
- Being a jerk. -
someotherguy,
2020-02-03, 09:12
- Being a jerk. -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-02, 09:55
- Being a jerk. - narcogen, 2020-02-03, 08:23
- Who cares? -
cheapLEY,
2020-02-02, 12:07
- Technical foul - Cody Miller, 2020-02-02, 12:31
- Being a jerk. -
Korny,
2020-02-02, 08:22
- Being a jerk. -
narcogen,
2020-02-02, 07:59
- Being a jerk. -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-01, 10:14
- Being a jerk. -
cheapLEY,
2020-02-01, 09:43
- Being a jerk. -
EffortlessFury,
2020-01-31, 09:51
- Thanks for voicing your (and my) thoughts succinctly -
EffortlessFury,
2020-01-31, 09:12
- Not the least bit unfair. - Cody Miller, 2020-01-30, 19:10
- Not the least bit unfair. - EffortlessFury, 2020-01-30, 19:36
- Not the least bit unfair. -
Kermit,
2020-01-31, 09:50
- Not the least bit unfair. -
Cody Miller,
2020-01-31, 10:38
- Not the least bit unfair. -
Kermit,
2020-01-31, 11:36
- Not the least bit unfair. -
Cody Miller,
2020-01-31, 13:35
- Not the least bit unfair. - Kermit, 2020-01-31, 17:51
- Not the least bit unfair. -
Cody Miller,
2020-01-31, 13:35
- Not the least bit unfair. -
Kermit,
2020-01-31, 11:36
- Not the least bit unfair. -
Vortech,
2020-01-31, 17:59
- Not the least bit unfair. -
Cody Miller,
2020-01-31, 19:10
- The place where design gets compromised . . . -
Harmanimus,
2020-01-31, 20:24
- Disagree -
Cody Miller,
2020-01-31, 21:03
- Examples? - Claude Errera, 2020-01-31, 21:36
- Halo 2 called, it wants its final third back. -
EffortlessFury,
2020-02-01, 03:13
- Those are often time constraints too -
someotherguy,
2020-02-01, 03:27
- Those are often time constraints too -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-01, 07:51
- Try reading that again -
someotherguy,
2020-02-01, 09:35
- Try reading that again -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-01, 10:13
- Try reading that again -
someotherguy,
2020-02-01, 10:43
- Try reading that again - Cody Miller, 2020-02-01, 12:49
- Try reading that again -
someotherguy,
2020-02-01, 10:43
- Try reading that again -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-01, 10:13
- Try reading that again -
someotherguy,
2020-02-01, 09:35
- Those are often time constraints too -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-01, 07:51
- I noticed you ignored my counterexample. -
EffortlessFury,
2020-02-02, 10:17
- I noticed you ignored my counterexample. -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-02, 12:25
- Could fund more dev time. -
EffortlessFury,
2020-02-02, 14:15
- WTF are you talking about -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-02, 15:13
- WTF are you talking about -
cheapLEY,
2020-02-02, 15:28
- WTF are you talking about -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-02, 15:42
- WTF are you talking about -
ZackDark,
2020-02-02, 20:05
- WTF are you talking about - Cody Miller, 2020-02-02, 21:55
- WTF are you talking about -
ZackDark,
2020-02-02, 20:05
- WTF are you talking about -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-02, 15:42
- WTF are you talking about -
cheapLEY,
2020-02-02, 15:28
- WTF are you talking about -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-02, 15:13
- Could fund more dev time. -
EffortlessFury,
2020-02-02, 14:15
- I noticed you ignored my counterexample. - someotherguy, 2020-02-02, 15:16
- I noticed you ignored my counterexample. -
Cody Miller,
2020-02-02, 12:25
- Those are often time constraints too -
someotherguy,
2020-02-01, 03:27
- To quote Claude- Examples? -
someotherguy,
2020-02-01, 02:03
- Any game with a cool feature cut “for time” ever. -
Harmanimus,
2020-02-01, 02:46
- Time is a fictional construct in this example? -
someotherguy,
2020-02-01, 02:57
- To the same extent as money. -
Harmanimus,
2020-02-01, 16:35
- I have literally no idea what point you're making - someotherguy, 2020-02-01, 16:42
- To the same extent as money. -
Harmanimus,
2020-02-01, 16:35
- Time is a fictional construct in this example? -
someotherguy,
2020-02-01, 02:57
- Any game with a cool feature cut “for time” ever. -
Harmanimus,
2020-02-01, 02:46
- Disagree -
Cody Miller,
2020-01-31, 21:03
- The place where design gets compromised . . . -
Harmanimus,
2020-01-31, 20:24
- Not the least bit unfair. -
Cody Miller,
2020-01-31, 19:10
- Not the least bit unfair. -
Cody Miller,
2020-01-31, 10:38
- Not the least bit unfair. -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-30, 18:52
- Addendum -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 15:46
- Addendum -
Claude Errera,
2020-01-30, 15:39
- Addendum -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 15:37
- Lemme fix that for you - cheapLEY, 2020-01-30, 15:42
- Not really how words work, is it -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 15:33
- Lemme fix that for you -
Claude Errera,
2020-01-30, 15:28
- Lemme fix that for you -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 15:25
- Who cares? -
Claude Errera,
2020-01-30, 13:52
- Someone will -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 04:56
- Who cares? -
Claude Errera,
2020-01-29, 22:15
- You said "Who cares?" Plenty of people care. -
EffortlessFury,
2020-01-29, 15:47
- Who cares? -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-29, 15:06
- This old chestnut again -
someotherguy,
2020-01-29, 15:49
- This old chestnut again -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-29, 16:24
- This old chestnut again -
someotherguy,
2020-01-29, 16:54
- This old chestnut again -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-29, 17:19
- This old chestnut again -
someotherguy,
2020-01-29, 17:35
- This old chestnut again -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-29, 17:45
- *thinking emoji* - someotherguy, 2020-01-29, 17:55
- This old chestnut again -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-29, 17:45
- This old chestnut again -
someotherguy,
2020-01-29, 17:35
- This old chestnut again -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-29, 17:19
- This old chestnut again -
someotherguy,
2020-01-29, 16:54
- This old chestnut again -
cheapLEY,
2020-01-29, 16:24
- Speaking of reductive… -
Vortech,
2020-01-31, 14:52
- Speaking of reductive… - someotherguy, 2020-02-01, 02:01
- Bit reductive and you know it -
Cody Miller,
2020-01-29, 13:54
- Bit reductive and you know it -
someotherguy,
2020-01-29, 13:42
- Ugh, you can now buy SUROS Regime with real money -
Harmanimus,
2020-01-29, 16:41
- Sigh, see previous post about moving goalposts -
someotherguy,
2020-01-29, 16:53
- I only answered your question. -
Harmanimus,
2020-01-29, 17:18
- I only answered your question. -
someotherguy,
2020-01-29, 17:27
- I only answered your question. -
Harmanimus,
2020-01-29, 20:37
- Fair Enough -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 04:54
- Fair Enough -
EffortlessFury,
2020-01-30, 06:58
- Fair Enough - Harmanimus, 2020-01-30, 08:01
- Fair Enough -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 11:55
- Fair Enough - Claude Errera, 2020-01-30, 12:05
- Fair Enough -
EffortlessFury,
2020-01-30, 06:58
- Fair Enough -
someotherguy,
2020-01-30, 04:54
- I only answered your question. -
Harmanimus,
2020-01-29, 20:37
- I only answered your question. -
someotherguy,
2020-01-29, 17:27
- Sigh, see previous post about moving goalposts - Cody Miller, 2020-01-29, 18:59
- I only answered your question. -
Harmanimus,
2020-01-29, 17:18
- this^ - Kermit, 2020-01-29, 20:22
- Sigh, see previous post about moving goalposts -
someotherguy,
2020-01-29, 16:53
- Ugh, you can now buy SUROS Regime with real money -
squidnh3,
2020-01-29, 13:23