Pivot tables, Pivot tables as far as the eye can see (Destiny)

by electricpirate , Thursday, June 04, 2015, 22:30 (3466 days ago) @ dogcow

I wonder what kind of weapon balance test tools Bungie has. I think it'd be fun to code up a little tool that would take a range & a "skill" (accuracy?) parameter (maybe some others) and iterate through all their weapons & various perks & output the average TTK for each weapon at that range. You could even geek out with graphs of the data & various TTK's at various ranges...

And some people laugh when I say spreadsheets are my favorite game design tool.

(you could do this in code tool, as most modern DB's have decent statistics tools, but Excel is pretty much designed for this work).

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Kotaku also hates Thorn. - Revenant1988, 2015-06-04, 19:51
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  - Kotaku also hates Thorn. - CyberKN, 2015-06-04, 20:07
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        What about it? - CyberKN, 2015-06-04, 21:34
        
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        I'm a CoD fan... - Korny, 2015-06-05, 08:57
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  - I think Thorn is OP as hell right now - Kahzgul, 2015-06-05, 19:03
- Modelling Weapon Balance in Code? - dogcow, 2015-06-04, 21:13
  - Pivot tables, Pivot tables as far as the eye can see - electricpirate, 2015-06-04, 22:30
    - Weapon balance changing over time is on purpose - DreadPirateWes, 2015-06-04, 23:52
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        As a recent MIDA convert, I can get behind that - someotherguy, 2015-06-05, 12:31
        
        As a recent MIDA convert, I can get behind that - iconicbanana, 2015-06-05, 12:41
        
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        What's a bhop? Did I just have a seizure? - iconicbanana, 2015-06-05, 13:25
        
        As a recent MIDA convert, I can get behind that - CommandrCleavage, 2015-06-05, 12:54
        
        "I WAS ON 9 KILLS AND THE FLOOR DISAPPEARED!!!" - someotherguy, 2015-06-05, 13:08
        
        See!!! See how much fun that would be! - CommandrCleavage, 2015-06-05, 13:34
        
        this would be AMAZINGGG - Raflection, 2015-06-05, 20:18
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      - Kotaku also hates Thorn. - Monochron, 2015-06-06, 00:25
  - Kotaku also hates Thorn. - Revenant1988, 2015-06-05, 11:46
    - Kotaku also hates Thorn. - CommandrCleavage, 2015-06-05, 12:17
  - I am Better (sometimes, and that's when it annoys me) - someotherguy, 2015-06-05, 12:12
    - I am Better (sometimes, and that's when it annoys me) - CommandrCleavage, 2015-06-05, 12:23
      - I am Better (sometimes, and that's when it annoys me) - someotherguy, 2015-06-05, 13:02
        
        If you use Thorn, the DoT does allow for one thing: - iconicbanana, 2015-06-05, 13:07
        
        Err, exactly? - someotherguy, 2015-06-05, 14:14
        
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        If you use Thorn, the DoT does allow for one thing: - bluerunner, 2015-06-05, 15:29
        
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        When Thorn was a POS... - Revenant1988, 2015-06-05, 16:14
        
        When Thorn was a POS... - CyberKN, 2015-06-05, 16:20
        
        When Thorn was a POS... - Revenant1988, 2015-06-05, 16:35
        
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        When Thorn was a POS... - CyberKN, 2015-06-05, 18:24
        
        When Thorn was a POS... - Revenant1988, 2015-06-05, 19:35
        
        When Thorn was a POS... - CyberKN, 2015-06-05, 19:45
        
        In the right hands, it was good, even then. - iconicbanana, 2015-06-05, 18:16
        
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    - But ... but ... - Kermit, 2015-06-05, 13:16
      - You're a Sunsinger, your body is a weapon :p - someotherguy, 2015-06-05, 14:22
      - But ... but ... - Avateur, 2015-06-05, 18:13
- My team and I figured out another Thorn perk: Assists! - Kahzgul, 2015-06-06, 09:22

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