Weapon sunsetting in action (Destiny)
Those two categories are both bad on their own. You need both. Metrics and data guide how the game is doing overall and helps you understand what is actually happening. Fun and instinct is great in the moment but it doesn't give you and idea of where you are going. You can't have one or the other, you have to have both.
I disagree. Metrics do not qualify the game experience. All that matters is the fun you have. Metrics tell you little if anything about the actual things people are feeling when they play your game. Fighting games are a great example. Super Turbo is in no way 'balanced', with tons of advantageous character match ups and many underused characters. The metrics would say it's a mess. And yet, somehow, it is one of, and some might consider THE, greatest fighting game of all time.
Also, fun and instinct are a personally thing. You can just do something and assume everyone is going to have fun with a change. That is why for such large games like this that you have to have those metrics to guide the best fun for the most amount of people.
Metrics do not measure fun.
Complete thread:
- Bungie Stream: Introducing FUUUTURE...oh & S11 -
INSANEdrive,
2020-06-09, 09:05
- Bungie Stream: Introducing Season of the Arrivals -
breitzen,
2020-06-09, 09:38
- Bungie Stream: Introducing FUUUTURE...oh & S11 - INSANEdrive, 2020-06-09, 09:41
- tl;dr - Korny, 2020-06-09, 09:43
- Long Term Future -
squidnh3,
2020-06-09, 09:43
- Long Term Future -
squidnh3,
2020-06-09, 09:56
- Long Term Future -
Korny,
2020-06-09, 10:19
- Long Term Future -
Claude Errera,
2020-06-09, 10:26
- Long Term Future -
squidnh3,
2020-06-09, 10:29
- Long Term Future - MacAddictXIV, 2020-06-09, 10:31
- Long Term Future -
squidnh3,
2020-06-09, 10:29
- Long Term Future -
cheapLEY,
2020-06-09, 12:02
- Hope For The Future! *NM* -
Ragashingo,
2020-06-09, 12:50
- It's coming soon enough. - bluerunner, 2020-06-09, 12:59
- +1 - Kermit, 2020-06-10, 08:41
- Hope For The Future! *NM* -
Ragashingo,
2020-06-09, 12:50
- Long Term Future -
Claude Errera,
2020-06-09, 10:26
- Bye to the Destiny 2 campaign -
Burchie,
2020-06-10, 02:00
- Bye to the Destiny 2 campaign -
Cody Miller,
2020-06-10, 08:23
- Bye to the Destiny 2 campaign -
Burchie,
2020-06-11, 05:54
- Bye to the Destiny 2 campaign -
Cody Miller,
2020-06-11, 11:16
- Bye to the Destiny 2 campaign - Simpsons Rule, 2020-06-11, 11:22
- Until it is rotated back in. -
EffortlessFury,
2020-06-11, 12:47
- lol - thanks for this voice of reason. :) -
Claude Errera,
2020-06-11, 16:01
- lol - thanks for this voice of reason. :) -
Cody Miller,
2020-06-12, 11:49
- lol - thanks for this voice of reason. :) -
MacAddictXIV,
2020-06-12, 12:20
- lol - thanks for this voice of reason. :) -
Cody Miller,
2020-06-12, 12:27
- lol - thanks for this voice of reason. :) - MacAddictXIV, 2020-06-12, 12:31
- lol - thanks for this voice of reason. :) -
Cody Miller,
2020-06-12, 12:27
- lol - thanks for this voice of reason. :) -
MacAddictXIV,
2020-06-12, 12:20
- lol - thanks for this voice of reason. :) -
Korny,
2020-06-12, 12:06
- This - Robot Chickens, 2020-06-12, 12:50
- lol - thanks for this voice of reason. :) -
Cody Miller,
2020-06-12, 11:49
- Until it is rotated back in. - Burchie, 2020-06-11, 20:11
- lol - thanks for this voice of reason. :) -
Claude Errera,
2020-06-11, 16:01
- Bye to the Destiny 2 campaign -
Cody Miller,
2020-06-11, 11:16
- Bye to the Destiny 2 campaign -
Burchie,
2020-06-11, 05:54
- Bye to the Destiny 2 campaign -
Cody Miller,
2020-06-10, 08:23
- Long Term Future -
Korny,
2020-06-09, 10:19
- Long Term Future -
squidnh3,
2020-06-09, 09:56
- Bungie Stream: Introducing Season of the Arrivals - Simpsons Rule, 2020-06-09, 10:04
- Does that mean... - bluerunner, 2020-06-09, 12:34
- Okay, but what’s this season about? -
cheapLEY,
2020-06-09, 13:30
- I'll try [*SPOILERS*] -
kidtsunami,
2020-06-09, 13:33
- Thanks! - cheapLEY, 2020-06-09, 16:03
- So do I have to buy dlc to play Vault of Glass again??? -
Spec ops Grunt,
2020-06-10, 11:27
- So do I have to buy dlc to play Vault of Glass again??? - breitzen, 2020-06-10, 11:41
- Learning to sprint again -
squidnh3,
2020-06-09, 13:38
- Learning to sprint again - bluerunner, 2020-06-09, 15:19
- Learning to sprint again -
INSANEdrive,
2020-06-09, 19:29
- Learning to sprint again -
cheapLEY,
2020-06-09, 21:34
- Learning to sprint again -
Vortech,
2020-06-14, 11:40
- Learning to sprint again - Pyromancy, 2020-06-14, 20:53
- Learning to sprint again -
Vortech,
2020-06-14, 11:40
- Learning to sprint again -
cheapLEY,
2020-06-09, 21:34
- *Possible fix inbound?* Learning to sprint again -
Pyromancy,
2020-06-14, 20:57
- Some of these I was unaware of. Good to know. Thank you. - INSANEdrive, 2020-06-14, 22:00
- *Possible fix inbound?* Learning to sprint again - Kermit, 2020-06-15, 05:58
- Okay, but what’s this season about? -
cheapLEY,
2020-06-09, 21:39
- Okay, but what’s this season about? -
MacAddictXIV,
2020-06-10, 07:50
- Okay, but what’s this season about? - cheapLEY, 2020-06-10, 19:35
- Okay, but what’s this season about? -
MacAddictXIV,
2020-06-10, 07:50
- I'll try [*SPOILERS*] -
kidtsunami,
2020-06-09, 13:33
- 4K/60 on new consoles! - cheapLEY, 2020-06-09, 18:57
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-06-09, 23:28
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
cheapLEY,
2020-06-10, 06:47
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-06-10, 09:35
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
squidnh3,
2020-06-10, 10:25
- Weapon *whiplash* in action -
INSANEdrive,
2020-06-10, 11:33
- Weapon *whiplash* in action -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-06-10, 12:14
- I'd be fine with a D3 -
breitzen,
2020-06-10, 12:29
- I'd be fine with a D3 -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-06-10, 12:35
- ..eh - squidnh3, 2020-06-10, 12:43
- I'd be fine with a D3 -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-06-10, 12:35
- I'd be fine with a D3 -
breitzen,
2020-06-10, 12:29
- Weapon *whiplash* in action -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-06-10, 12:14
- +1000 - CruelLEGACEY, 2020-06-10, 12:11
- Weapon *whiplash* in action -
INSANEdrive,
2020-06-10, 11:33
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
squidnh3,
2020-06-10, 10:25
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-06-10, 09:35
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
Simpsons Rule,
2020-06-10, 06:54
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
Cody Miller,
2020-06-10, 08:27
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
MacAddictXIV,
2020-06-10, 09:15
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
Simpsons Rule,
2020-06-10, 09:31
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
MacAddictXIV,
2020-06-10, 10:09
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
Simpsons Rule,
2020-06-10, 10:29
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
MacAddictXIV,
2020-06-10, 10:41
- Weapon sunsetting in action - Cody Miller, 2020-06-10, 12:06
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
MacAddictXIV,
2020-06-10, 10:41
- Weapon sunsetting in action - squidnh3, 2020-06-10, 11:01
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
Simpsons Rule,
2020-06-10, 10:29
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
MacAddictXIV,
2020-06-10, 10:09
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
Cody Miller,
2020-06-10, 09:56
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
MacAddictXIV,
2020-06-10, 10:25
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
Cody Miller,
2020-06-10, 12:00
- Weapon sunsetting in action - MacAddictXIV, 2020-06-10, 12:48
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
Cody Miller,
2020-06-10, 12:00
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
MacAddictXIV,
2020-06-10, 10:25
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
Simpsons Rule,
2020-06-10, 09:31
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
MacAddictXIV,
2020-06-10, 09:15
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
Cody Miller,
2020-06-10, 08:27
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
squidnh3,
2020-06-10, 06:55
- That’s a bug. - cheapLEY, 2020-06-10, 07:03
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake -
Spec ops Grunt,
2020-06-10, 11:49
- +1 - INSANEdrive, 2020-06-10, 11:58
- +1 - breitzen, 2020-06-10, 12:00
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake -
Cody Miller,
2020-06-10, 12:03
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake -
Spec ops Grunt,
2020-06-10, 12:56
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake -
Cody Miller,
2020-06-10, 14:47
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake - Robot Chickens, 2020-06-10, 16:17
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake -
Cody Miller,
2020-06-10, 14:47
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake -
Spec ops Grunt,
2020-06-10, 12:56
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake -
squidnh3,
2020-06-10, 12:12
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-06-10, 12:19
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake - MacAddictXIV, 2020-06-10, 12:54
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake -
Pyromancy,
2020-06-11, 00:19
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-06-11, 03:25
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake -
Cody Miller,
2020-06-11, 11:19
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake - CruelLEGACEY, 2020-06-11, 11:23
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake -
Cody Miller,
2020-06-11, 11:19
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-06-11, 03:25
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-06-10, 12:19
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake -
TheOmegaClown,
2020-07-02, 07:28
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake -
Kermit,
2020-07-03, 06:04
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake - TheOmegaClown, 2020-07-04, 08:03
- Adding random rolls back was a mistake -
Kermit,
2020-07-03, 06:04
- Speaking of Sunset'n: DIM inventory check -
INSANEdrive,
2020-06-10, 20:09
- Speaking of Sunset'n: DIM inventory check - ZackDark, 2020-06-11, 04:55
- Weapon sunsetting in action -
cheapLEY,
2020-06-10, 06:47
- Bungie Stream: Introducing Season of the Arrivals -
breitzen,
2020-06-09, 09:38