
More bugs that affect the artists (Gaming)
Not exactly. The ghosting or double-vision issues I was talking about with Reach just look like a flat-out mistake or problem to me. You can freeze-frame Reach footage and literally see 2 images of a spartan as its moving overlayed on top of each other.
No, I understand that. That's a different thing. That's the temporal anit-aliasing, which is gone now. The ambient occlusion is different. The edges of geometry in the original Reach look much "softer," for lack of a better term. The new Reach is similar to your example with the wall in TLoU Remastered. The edges of the geometry are much more defined, and they look a little less natural than they used to, much more obviously like video game geometry. It's a testament to Bungie's design that it still looks fantastic and fairly real, but it would look better with the proper ambient occlusion.
If you're interested, here's the Digital Foundry video. I think Cody is vastly overstating how big of a deal this is (as it still looks great, and it's much easier to pick this stuff apart when just watching a video, and it's much less noticeable when actually playing the game), but I do think it could look better if this stuff was working correctly. I think depth of field is even more important than ambient occlusion in terms of keeping the aesthetics of the original game. It was used heavily, especially in cutscenes in the original version of the game, and it's basically completely gone from the MCC version.
The stuff I'm talking about starts at 10:49. There's also a sound comparison that starts right at 15:00.
Complete thread:
- MCC Reach Achievements Announced. -
Morpheus,
2019-11-26, 18:03
- I know what I'll be doing after Christmas - Blackt1g3r, 2019-11-27, 07:38
- MCC Reach Achievements Announced. -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-11-27, 07:39
- Yep - ZackDark, 2019-11-27, 08:14
- MCC Reach Achievements Announced. - Cody Miller, 2019-11-27, 08:46
- Hear Me Beg -
FyreWulff,
2019-12-01, 11:26
- Hear Me Beg -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-01, 12:11
- Hear Me Beg -
Morpheus,
2019-12-01, 12:32
- Hear Me Beg -
ZackDark,
2019-12-02, 03:08
- Hear Me Beg -
Kermit,
2019-12-02, 09:19
- Hear Me Beg -
Korny,
2019-12-02, 09:26
- Hear Me Beg - Kermit, 2019-12-02, 10:06
- Hear Me Beg -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 10:10
- Hear Me Beg - cheapLEY, 2019-12-02, 10:13
- Apparently so. -
Kermit,
2019-12-02, 10:15
- Apparently so. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 10:19
- Apparently so. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-02, 10:31
- Apparently so. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 10:58
- Apparently so. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-02, 12:41
- Apparently so. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 12:45
- Apparently so. - Kermit, 2019-12-05, 06:01
- Apparently so. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 12:45
- Apparently so. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-02, 12:41
- Apparently so. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 10:58
- Apparently so. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-02, 10:31
- Apparently so. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 10:19
- Hear Me Beg - Morpheus, 2019-12-02, 11:11
- Hear Me Beg -
Korny,
2019-12-02, 09:26
- Hear Me Beg -
Kermit,
2019-12-02, 09:19
- Hear Me Beg -
ZackDark,
2019-12-02, 03:08
- Hear Me Beg -
Morpheus,
2019-12-01, 12:32
- Hear Me Beg -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-01, 12:11
- Sound is messed up right now on PC -
Spec ops Grunt,
2019-12-03, 15:10
- No 30fps option either :(
- CyberKN, 2019-12-03, 16:00
- At least you can play it. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-03, 18:25
- At 27% Right Now. lol
- Morpheus, 2019-12-03, 18:55
- 501 KBps. Rofl.
- Morpheus, 2019-12-03, 20:21
- 501 KBps. Rofl.
- At least you can play it. -
Kermit,
2019-12-04, 08:32
- At least you can play it. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-04, 09:18
- At least you can play it. - Kermit, 2019-12-04, 12:39
- At least you can play it. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-04, 09:18
- At 27% Right Now. lol
- Sound is messed up right now on PC - Cody Miller, 2019-12-03, 19:29
- Sound is messed up right now on Xbox as well. -
Korny,
2019-12-04, 08:47
- This is what I was talking about -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-04, 14:53
- I agree. -
Kermit,
2019-12-04, 19:30
- I agree. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-04, 19:52
- I agree. -
Korny,
2019-12-04, 22:33
- I agree. -
EffortlessFury,
2019-12-05, 06:38
- I agree. -
Kermit,
2019-12-05, 08:26
- I agree. -
EffortlessFury,
2019-12-05, 13:04
- I agree. -
Kermit,
2019-12-05, 14:06
- Happens. ^_^
- EffortlessFury, 2019-12-05, 14:50
- I agree. - cheapLEY, 2019-12-05, 15:21
- Happens. ^_^
- I agree. -
Kermit,
2019-12-05, 14:06
- I agree. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-05, 17:28
- There's at least a music slider?
- EffortlessFury, 2019-12-06, 06:38
- That’s only for music in the menus.
- cheapLEY, 2019-12-06, 09:22
- um... -
EffortlessFury,
2019-12-06, 19:45
- um... -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-06, 21:20
- That's...bizarre.
- EffortlessFury, 2019-12-07, 00:01
- That's...PC. - Morpheus, 2019-12-07, 15:19
- That's...bizarre.
- um... -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-06, 21:20
- um... -
EffortlessFury,
2019-12-06, 19:45
- That’s only for music in the menus.
- There's at least a music slider?
- I agree. -
EffortlessFury,
2019-12-05, 13:04
- I agree. -
Kermit,
2019-12-05, 08:26
- I agree. - Cody Miller, 2019-12-05, 08:22
- I agree. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-05, 10:44
- I agree. - Cody Miller, 2019-12-05, 11:12
- I agree. -
EffortlessFury,
2019-12-05, 06:38
- I agree. -
Korny,
2019-12-04, 22:33
- I agree. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-04, 19:52
- I agree. -
Kermit,
2019-12-04, 19:30
- This is what I was talking about -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-04, 14:53
- No 30fps option either :(
- Reach totally holds up. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-04, 19:38
- Reach totally holds up. - Cody Miller, 2019-12-04, 19:55
- Reach totally holds up. -
bluerunner,
2019-12-04, 20:01
- Reach totally holds up. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-05, 05:11
- Reach totally holds up. -
bluerunner,
2019-12-05, 05:32
- Count me in.
- Malagate, 2019-12-05, 06:01
- Reach totally holds up. -
Kermit,
2019-12-05, 06:11
- Reach totally holds up. - ZackDark, 2019-12-05, 12:32
- That’s awesome! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-05, 07:40
- That’s awesome! -
bluerunner,
2019-12-05, 09:00
- That’s awesome! - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-12-05, 09:11
- That’s awesome! - Kermit, 2019-12-05, 09:14
- That’s awesome! -
bluerunner,
2019-12-05, 09:00
- Reach totally holds up. - SonofMacPhisto, 2019-12-05, 10:11
- Destiny custom maps when
- someotherguy, 2019-12-07, 03:55
- Count me in.
- Reach totally holds up. -
bluerunner,
2019-12-05, 05:32
- Reach totally holds up. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-05, 05:11
- Anyone drive the forklift yet?
- Cody Miller, 2019-12-06, 17:35
- Pfft, you know it. - SonofMacPhisto, 2019-12-07, 11:46
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-07, 15:09
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-07, 18:28
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
narcogen,
2019-12-07, 18:58
- Good post! -
Kermit,
2019-12-08, 11:17
- Good post! - Cody Miller, 2019-12-08, 11:22
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-08, 11:20
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. - CommanderCartman, 2019-12-08, 12:46
- Good post! -
Kermit,
2019-12-08, 11:17
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
narcogen,
2019-12-07, 18:58
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
squidnh3,
2019-12-09, 08:28
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-12-09, 09:22
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. - Cody Miller, 2019-12-09, 10:53
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-07, 18:28
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-08, 09:41
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-08, 23:15
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-09, 08:15
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 09:03
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-09, 10:49
- More bugs that affect the artists -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 11:19
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 12:11
- More bugs that affect the artists -
SonofMacPhisto,
2019-12-09, 12:16
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 12:31
- yeah, it's a PC build issue afaik
- kidtsunami, 2019-12-09, 12:43
- I don't think that's true. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 12:50
- I don't think that's true. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 13:00
- I don't think that's true. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 13:34
- Are you guys using virtual surround? (WindowsSonic, I think)
- ZackDark, 2019-12-09, 16:15
- I am not (and I’m not having audio problems)
- CruelLEGACEY, 2019-12-09, 16:51
- Yes and No - cheapLEY, 2019-12-09, 16:59
- I am not (and I’m not having audio problems)
- Are you guys using virtual surround? (WindowsSonic, I think)
- I don't think that's true. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 13:34
- I don't think that's true. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 13:00
- I don't think that's true. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 12:50
- More bugs that affect the artists - SonofMacPhisto, 2019-12-09, 16:21
- yeah, it's a PC build issue afaik
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 12:31
- More bugs that affect the artists - cheapLEY, 2019-12-09, 12:22
- More bugs that affect the artists -
SonofMacPhisto,
2019-12-09, 12:16
- More bugs that affect the artists - Cody Miller, 2019-12-09, 12:14
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 12:11
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 12:26
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-09, 13:37
- More bugs that affect the artists -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 14:03
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 14:18
- More bugs that affect the artists - cheapLEY, 2019-12-09, 14:40
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 14:18
- More bugs that affect the artists -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 14:03
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-09, 13:37
- More bugs that affect the artists -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 11:19
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-09, 10:49
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 09:03
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-09, 08:15
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-08, 23:15