
I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. (Gaming)
All of this while playing through a well told story with great characters and a beautifully realized world.
I think there's probably some additional reasons why Destiny isn't quite like this, but one thing that would help would be difficulty modifiers. Being able to waltz through every mission without any sense of stress or problem solving isn't conducive to any experience.
I think that's a great point, and I totally agree... BUT...
I just replayed the entire Reach campaign on Normal, and I'm blown away by how impactful the story was, even with the relatively low difficulty. I'm a guy who has gone on and on about how stressful gameplay scenarios are a crucial part of storytelling in video games. I think the ability to make a player feel nervous and tense and exhausted purely through their in-game actions is one of the key things video games can do that other storytelling mediums can't. And yet, despite that, Reach's campaign still hits hard even when the gameplay experience isn't so stressful. And I think there's a very specific reason why.
The way Reach's story progresses is as an increasingly dire string of "we won that battle, but we're still losing the war" moments. Even if you, Noble 6, are kicking ass left, right, and center as you play through the campaign, the greater situation around you is going further and further to hell. I think this creates an experience where playing on a higher difficulty enhances the feelings of hopelessness and being overwhelmed, but those feelings still exist even when the player is stomping everything in their path.
Halo CE actually nailed the same formula. I think that's at least part of the reason why both campaigns are so good across all difficulty levels.
Complete thread:
- MCC Reach Achievements Announced. -
Morpheus,
2019-11-26, 18:03
- I know what I'll be doing after Christmas - Blackt1g3r, 2019-11-27, 07:38
- MCC Reach Achievements Announced. -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-11-27, 07:39
- Yep - ZackDark, 2019-11-27, 08:14
- MCC Reach Achievements Announced. - Cody Miller, 2019-11-27, 08:46
- Hear Me Beg -
FyreWulff,
2019-12-01, 11:26
- Hear Me Beg -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-01, 12:11
- Hear Me Beg -
Morpheus,
2019-12-01, 12:32
- Hear Me Beg -
ZackDark,
2019-12-02, 03:08
- Hear Me Beg -
Kermit,
2019-12-02, 09:19
- Hear Me Beg -
Korny,
2019-12-02, 09:26
- Hear Me Beg - Kermit, 2019-12-02, 10:06
- Hear Me Beg -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 10:10
- Hear Me Beg - cheapLEY, 2019-12-02, 10:13
- Apparently so. -
Kermit,
2019-12-02, 10:15
- Apparently so. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 10:19
- Apparently so. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-02, 10:31
- Apparently so. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 10:58
- Apparently so. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-02, 12:41
- Apparently so. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 12:45
- Apparently so. - Kermit, 2019-12-05, 06:01
- Apparently so. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 12:45
- Apparently so. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-02, 12:41
- Apparently so. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 10:58
- Apparently so. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-02, 10:31
- Apparently so. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 10:19
- Hear Me Beg - Morpheus, 2019-12-02, 11:11
- Hear Me Beg -
Korny,
2019-12-02, 09:26
- Hear Me Beg -
Kermit,
2019-12-02, 09:19
- Hear Me Beg -
ZackDark,
2019-12-02, 03:08
- Hear Me Beg -
Morpheus,
2019-12-01, 12:32
- Hear Me Beg -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-01, 12:11
- Sound is messed up right now on PC -
Spec ops Grunt,
2019-12-03, 15:10
- No 30fps option either :(
- CyberKN, 2019-12-03, 16:00
- At least you can play it. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-03, 18:25
- At 27% Right Now. lol
- Morpheus, 2019-12-03, 18:55
- 501 KBps. Rofl.
- Morpheus, 2019-12-03, 20:21
- 501 KBps. Rofl.
- At least you can play it. -
Kermit,
2019-12-04, 08:32
- At least you can play it. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-04, 09:18
- At least you can play it. - Kermit, 2019-12-04, 12:39
- At least you can play it. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-04, 09:18
- At 27% Right Now. lol
- Sound is messed up right now on PC - Cody Miller, 2019-12-03, 19:29
- Sound is messed up right now on Xbox as well. -
Korny,
2019-12-04, 08:47
- This is what I was talking about -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-04, 14:53
- I agree. -
Kermit,
2019-12-04, 19:30
- I agree. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-04, 19:52
- I agree. -
Korny,
2019-12-04, 22:33
- I agree. -
EffortlessFury,
2019-12-05, 06:38
- I agree. -
Kermit,
2019-12-05, 08:26
- I agree. -
EffortlessFury,
2019-12-05, 13:04
- I agree. -
Kermit,
2019-12-05, 14:06
- Happens. ^_^
- EffortlessFury, 2019-12-05, 14:50
- I agree. - cheapLEY, 2019-12-05, 15:21
- Happens. ^_^
- I agree. -
Kermit,
2019-12-05, 14:06
- I agree. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-05, 17:28
- There's at least a music slider?
- EffortlessFury, 2019-12-06, 06:38
- That’s only for music in the menus.
- cheapLEY, 2019-12-06, 09:22
- um... -
EffortlessFury,
2019-12-06, 19:45
- um... -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-06, 21:20
- That's...bizarre.
- EffortlessFury, 2019-12-07, 00:01
- That's...PC. - Morpheus, 2019-12-07, 15:19
- That's...bizarre.
- um... -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-06, 21:20
- um... -
EffortlessFury,
2019-12-06, 19:45
- That’s only for music in the menus.
- There's at least a music slider?
- I agree. -
EffortlessFury,
2019-12-05, 13:04
- I agree. -
Kermit,
2019-12-05, 08:26
- I agree. - Cody Miller, 2019-12-05, 08:22
- I agree. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-05, 10:44
- I agree. - Cody Miller, 2019-12-05, 11:12
- I agree. -
EffortlessFury,
2019-12-05, 06:38
- I agree. -
Korny,
2019-12-04, 22:33
- I agree. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-04, 19:52
- I agree. -
Kermit,
2019-12-04, 19:30
- This is what I was talking about -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-04, 14:53
- No 30fps option either :(
- Reach totally holds up. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-04, 19:38
- Reach totally holds up. - Cody Miller, 2019-12-04, 19:55
- Reach totally holds up. -
bluerunner,
2019-12-04, 20:01
- Reach totally holds up. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-05, 05:11
- Reach totally holds up. -
bluerunner,
2019-12-05, 05:32
- Count me in.
- Malagate, 2019-12-05, 06:01
- Reach totally holds up. -
Kermit,
2019-12-05, 06:11
- Reach totally holds up. - ZackDark, 2019-12-05, 12:32
- That’s awesome! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-05, 07:40
- That’s awesome! -
bluerunner,
2019-12-05, 09:00
- That’s awesome! - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-12-05, 09:11
- That’s awesome! - Kermit, 2019-12-05, 09:14
- That’s awesome! -
bluerunner,
2019-12-05, 09:00
- Reach totally holds up. - SonofMacPhisto, 2019-12-05, 10:11
- Destiny custom maps when
- someotherguy, 2019-12-07, 03:55
- Count me in.
- Reach totally holds up. -
bluerunner,
2019-12-05, 05:32
- Reach totally holds up. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-05, 05:11
- Anyone drive the forklift yet?
- Cody Miller, 2019-12-06, 17:35
- Pfft, you know it. - SonofMacPhisto, 2019-12-07, 11:46
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-07, 15:09
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-07, 18:28
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
narcogen,
2019-12-07, 18:58
- Good post! -
Kermit,
2019-12-08, 11:17
- Good post! - Cody Miller, 2019-12-08, 11:22
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-08, 11:20
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. - CommanderCartman, 2019-12-08, 12:46
- Good post! -
Kermit,
2019-12-08, 11:17
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
narcogen,
2019-12-07, 18:58
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
squidnh3,
2019-12-09, 08:28
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-12-09, 09:22
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. - Cody Miller, 2019-12-09, 10:53
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-07, 18:28
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-08, 09:41
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-08, 23:15
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-09, 08:15
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 09:03
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-09, 10:49
- More bugs that affect the artists -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 11:19
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 12:11
- More bugs that affect the artists -
SonofMacPhisto,
2019-12-09, 12:16
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 12:31
- yeah, it's a PC build issue afaik
- kidtsunami, 2019-12-09, 12:43
- I don't think that's true. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 12:50
- I don't think that's true. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 13:00
- I don't think that's true. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 13:34
- Are you guys using virtual surround? (WindowsSonic, I think)
- ZackDark, 2019-12-09, 16:15
- I am not (and I’m not having audio problems)
- CruelLEGACEY, 2019-12-09, 16:51
- Yes and No - cheapLEY, 2019-12-09, 16:59
- I am not (and I’m not having audio problems)
- Are you guys using virtual surround? (WindowsSonic, I think)
- I don't think that's true. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 13:34
- I don't think that's true. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 13:00
- I don't think that's true. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 12:50
- More bugs that affect the artists - SonofMacPhisto, 2019-12-09, 16:21
- yeah, it's a PC build issue afaik
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 12:31
- More bugs that affect the artists - cheapLEY, 2019-12-09, 12:22
- More bugs that affect the artists -
SonofMacPhisto,
2019-12-09, 12:16
- More bugs that affect the artists - Cody Miller, 2019-12-09, 12:14
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 12:11
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 12:26
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-09, 13:37
- More bugs that affect the artists -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 14:03
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 14:18
- More bugs that affect the artists - cheapLEY, 2019-12-09, 14:40
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 14:18
- More bugs that affect the artists -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 14:03
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-09, 13:37
- More bugs that affect the artists -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 11:19
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-09, 10:49
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 09:03
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-09, 08:15
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-08, 23:15