
More bugs that affect the artists (Gaming)
As my TLoU example illustrates, sometimes an improvement on paper actually harms the overall look.
And this is the one I am most curious about, because I never played the PS3 version. For me the remaster was 'normal'. I should try it on PS3.
It's sort of a funny example to choose while defending the MCC Reach port, because the ambient occlusion bug is sort of the same thing he's talking about, being able to see where geometry meets in a particular way.I think the MCC version would undeniably look better with the original ambient occlusion, but I also think it looks completely fine as is. It does make it look noticeably like an old game running at higher resolutions than it was ever intended, though, but that was always going to be the case.
Not exactly. The ghosting or double-vision issues I was talking about with Reach just look like a flat-out mistake or problem to me. You can freeze-frame Reach footage and literally see 2 images of a spartan as its moving overlayed on top of each other.
TLoU is more a case of art assets being polished to the level that was appropriate for the screen resolution that was available. Increasing the rendering resolution brings geometry outlines into sharper focus, but it makes the lower-resolution texture graphics more apparent. It’s kinda like me looking at a painting of a tree from 50 feet away without my glasses on. If the painting is detailed enough, it might look utterly real to me. But as soon as I put my glasses on, I can see that it’s just flat. That’s TLoU remastered in my eyes. Better image quality just made it more obvious when certain things looked fake.
Sticking with the same analogy, the original Reach felt like looking at the painting while being blasted drunk, while MCC Reach is like looking at it while sober, lol.
Complete thread:
- MCC Reach Achievements Announced. -
Morpheus,
2019-11-26, 18:03
- I know what I'll be doing after Christmas - Blackt1g3r, 2019-11-27, 07:38
- MCC Reach Achievements Announced. -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-11-27, 07:39
- Yep - ZackDark, 2019-11-27, 08:14
- MCC Reach Achievements Announced. - Cody Miller, 2019-11-27, 08:46
- Hear Me Beg -
FyreWulff,
2019-12-01, 11:26
- Hear Me Beg -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-01, 12:11
- Hear Me Beg -
Morpheus,
2019-12-01, 12:32
- Hear Me Beg -
ZackDark,
2019-12-02, 03:08
- Hear Me Beg -
Kermit,
2019-12-02, 09:19
- Hear Me Beg -
Korny,
2019-12-02, 09:26
- Hear Me Beg - Kermit, 2019-12-02, 10:06
- Hear Me Beg -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 10:10
- Hear Me Beg - cheapLEY, 2019-12-02, 10:13
- Apparently so. -
Kermit,
2019-12-02, 10:15
- Apparently so. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 10:19
- Apparently so. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-02, 10:31
- Apparently so. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 10:58
- Apparently so. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-02, 12:41
- Apparently so. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 12:45
- Apparently so. - Kermit, 2019-12-05, 06:01
- Apparently so. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 12:45
- Apparently so. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-02, 12:41
- Apparently so. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 10:58
- Apparently so. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-02, 10:31
- Apparently so. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-02, 10:19
- Hear Me Beg - Morpheus, 2019-12-02, 11:11
- Hear Me Beg -
Korny,
2019-12-02, 09:26
- Hear Me Beg -
Kermit,
2019-12-02, 09:19
- Hear Me Beg -
ZackDark,
2019-12-02, 03:08
- Hear Me Beg -
Morpheus,
2019-12-01, 12:32
- Hear Me Beg -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-01, 12:11
- Sound is messed up right now on PC -
Spec ops Grunt,
2019-12-03, 15:10
- No 30fps option either :(
- CyberKN, 2019-12-03, 16:00
- At least you can play it. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-03, 18:25
- At 27% Right Now. lol
- Morpheus, 2019-12-03, 18:55
- 501 KBps. Rofl.
- Morpheus, 2019-12-03, 20:21
- 501 KBps. Rofl.
- At least you can play it. -
Kermit,
2019-12-04, 08:32
- At least you can play it. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-04, 09:18
- At least you can play it. - Kermit, 2019-12-04, 12:39
- At least you can play it. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-04, 09:18
- At 27% Right Now. lol
- Sound is messed up right now on PC - Cody Miller, 2019-12-03, 19:29
- Sound is messed up right now on Xbox as well. -
Korny,
2019-12-04, 08:47
- This is what I was talking about -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-04, 14:53
- I agree. -
Kermit,
2019-12-04, 19:30
- I agree. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-04, 19:52
- I agree. -
Korny,
2019-12-04, 22:33
- I agree. -
EffortlessFury,
2019-12-05, 06:38
- I agree. -
Kermit,
2019-12-05, 08:26
- I agree. -
EffortlessFury,
2019-12-05, 13:04
- I agree. -
Kermit,
2019-12-05, 14:06
- Happens. ^_^
- EffortlessFury, 2019-12-05, 14:50
- I agree. - cheapLEY, 2019-12-05, 15:21
- Happens. ^_^
- I agree. -
Kermit,
2019-12-05, 14:06
- I agree. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-05, 17:28
- There's at least a music slider?
- EffortlessFury, 2019-12-06, 06:38
- That’s only for music in the menus.
- cheapLEY, 2019-12-06, 09:22
- um... -
EffortlessFury,
2019-12-06, 19:45
- um... -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-06, 21:20
- That's...bizarre.
- EffortlessFury, 2019-12-07, 00:01
- That's...PC. - Morpheus, 2019-12-07, 15:19
- That's...bizarre.
- um... -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-06, 21:20
- um... -
EffortlessFury,
2019-12-06, 19:45
- That’s only for music in the menus.
- There's at least a music slider?
- I agree. -
EffortlessFury,
2019-12-05, 13:04
- I agree. -
Kermit,
2019-12-05, 08:26
- I agree. - Cody Miller, 2019-12-05, 08:22
- I agree. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-05, 10:44
- I agree. - Cody Miller, 2019-12-05, 11:12
- I agree. -
EffortlessFury,
2019-12-05, 06:38
- I agree. -
Korny,
2019-12-04, 22:33
- I agree. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-04, 19:52
- I agree. -
Kermit,
2019-12-04, 19:30
- This is what I was talking about -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-04, 14:53
- No 30fps option either :(
- Reach totally holds up. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-04, 19:38
- Reach totally holds up. - Cody Miller, 2019-12-04, 19:55
- Reach totally holds up. -
bluerunner,
2019-12-04, 20:01
- Reach totally holds up. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-05, 05:11
- Reach totally holds up. -
bluerunner,
2019-12-05, 05:32
- Count me in.
- Malagate, 2019-12-05, 06:01
- Reach totally holds up. -
Kermit,
2019-12-05, 06:11
- Reach totally holds up. - ZackDark, 2019-12-05, 12:32
- That’s awesome! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-05, 07:40
- That’s awesome! -
bluerunner,
2019-12-05, 09:00
- That’s awesome! - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-12-05, 09:11
- That’s awesome! - Kermit, 2019-12-05, 09:14
- That’s awesome! -
bluerunner,
2019-12-05, 09:00
- Reach totally holds up. - SonofMacPhisto, 2019-12-05, 10:11
- Destiny custom maps when
- someotherguy, 2019-12-07, 03:55
- Count me in.
- Reach totally holds up. -
bluerunner,
2019-12-05, 05:32
- Reach totally holds up. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-05, 05:11
- Anyone drive the forklift yet?
- Cody Miller, 2019-12-06, 17:35
- Pfft, you know it. - SonofMacPhisto, 2019-12-07, 11:46
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-07, 15:09
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-07, 18:28
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
narcogen,
2019-12-07, 18:58
- Good post! -
Kermit,
2019-12-08, 11:17
- Good post! - Cody Miller, 2019-12-08, 11:22
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-08, 11:20
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. - CommanderCartman, 2019-12-08, 12:46
- Good post! -
Kermit,
2019-12-08, 11:17
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
narcogen,
2019-12-07, 18:58
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
squidnh3,
2019-12-09, 08:28
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-12-09, 09:22
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. - Cody Miller, 2019-12-09, 10:53
- I’d almost forgotten how great Bungie campaigns used to be. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-07, 18:28
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-08, 09:41
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-08, 23:15
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-09, 08:15
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 09:03
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-09, 10:49
- More bugs that affect the artists -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 11:19
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 12:11
- More bugs that affect the artists -
SonofMacPhisto,
2019-12-09, 12:16
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 12:31
- yeah, it's a PC build issue afaik
- kidtsunami, 2019-12-09, 12:43
- I don't think that's true. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 12:50
- I don't think that's true. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 13:00
- I don't think that's true. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 13:34
- Are you guys using virtual surround? (WindowsSonic, I think)
- ZackDark, 2019-12-09, 16:15
- I am not (and I’m not having audio problems)
- CruelLEGACEY, 2019-12-09, 16:51
- Yes and No - cheapLEY, 2019-12-09, 16:59
- I am not (and I’m not having audio problems)
- Are you guys using virtual surround? (WindowsSonic, I think)
- I don't think that's true. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 13:34
- I don't think that's true. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 13:00
- I don't think that's true. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 12:50
- More bugs that affect the artists - SonofMacPhisto, 2019-12-09, 16:21
- yeah, it's a PC build issue afaik
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 12:31
- More bugs that affect the artists - cheapLEY, 2019-12-09, 12:22
- More bugs that affect the artists -
SonofMacPhisto,
2019-12-09, 12:16
- More bugs that affect the artists - Cody Miller, 2019-12-09, 12:14
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 12:11
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 12:26
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-09, 13:37
- More bugs that affect the artists -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 14:03
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 14:18
- More bugs that affect the artists - cheapLEY, 2019-12-09, 14:40
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 14:18
- More bugs that affect the artists -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 14:03
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-09, 13:37
- More bugs that affect the artists -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-09, 11:19
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-09, 10:49
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-09, 09:03
- More bugs that affect the artists -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-09, 08:15
- More bugs that affect the artists -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-08, 23:15