Too Big to Fail (Gaming)
by MacAddictXIV 
, Seattle WA, Wednesday, April 06, 2016, 15:43 (3159 days ago) @ Cody Miller
No offense, but your indie dev friends disagree because they probably don't work for ID or Platinum. The indie developers that make the most impact are the ones with the most resources.
His background work actually came from Borderlands 2, Battlefield 2, Homefront and Myth 3. So again, I think he would disagree.
And where doe she work now? I'm not questioning his credentials. Look at the team behind Golem. Industry giants, but I don't think lasting hopes for that game are so good.
I actually don't know :-) I guess I shouldn't have said "Friend" I just have talked and helped him test his indie game for the last 6 months or so. So I know some of his history as well. And one of the big topics is how a game can define a genre and/or create a new genre and how you market that. It's a tough job for an indie game, but it's totally doable!
It's doable, but much less so than in the past. I think Quantic Dream did it, but they also spent millions of dollars doing so. I can't really think of any more recent examples.
Twitch and youtube is the new advertisement for indie gamers.
Complete thread:
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 18:20
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- Most AAA games don't spend 10 years in development hell. -
CyberKN,
2016-04-05, 18:27
- Most AAA games don't spend 10 years in development hell. - uberfoop, 2016-04-05, 20:54
- Too Big to Fail -
Kermit,
2016-04-05, 18:37
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 19:26
- Too Big to Fail -
Revenant1988,
2016-04-05, 22:08
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 22:24
- Your view of GAMING is insane. -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-05, 22:30
- No kidding -
ZackDark,
2016-04-05, 22:39
- Calculations... -
Mid7night,
2016-04-06, 02:29
- The "Plasma Car" is probably faster! *NM* - Ragashingo, 2016-04-06, 02:50
- Calculations... - ZackDark, 2016-04-06, 09:41
- Calculations... -
Mid7night,
2016-04-06, 02:29
- No kidding -
ZackDark,
2016-04-05, 22:39
- Too Big to Fail - Revenant1988, 2016-04-05, 22:43
- Too Big to Fail -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-05, 22:50
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 22:52
- Too Big to Fail - cheapLEY, 2016-04-05, 22:56
- You obviously have never played Minecraft in depth - ZackDark, 2016-04-05, 23:03
- Game studies to the rescuuuuueeeeeeee - electricpirate, 2016-04-06, 01:16
- Why paint on black velvet if you can paint on canvas? - Pyromancy, 2016-04-06, 02:21
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Mid7night,
2016-04-06, 02:22
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 02:25
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Mid7night,
2016-04-06, 02:35
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 02:38
- You can't eat dinner off of LEGOs???
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Ragashingo,
2016-04-06, 02:52
- Heh - Jeremy Clarkson took a bath in a LEGO bathtub. -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-06, 13:31
- Heh - Jeremy Clarkson took a bath in a LEGO bathtub. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 14:13
- You're right. -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-06, 16:00
- That toilet looks impossible to clean! -
Chappy,
2016-04-06, 18:02
- This is why you pee in the sink. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 19:57
- This is why you pee in the sink.
- You're right.
- Heh - Jeremy Clarkson took a bath in a LEGO bathtub. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 14:13
- Heh - Jeremy Clarkson took a bath in a LEGO bathtub.
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 03:31
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Chappy,
2016-04-06, 14:07
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:09
- I'll watch the show again and report back. -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 16:02
- I'll watch the show again and report back.
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:09
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Chappy,
2016-04-06, 14:07
- You can't make automobiles just with woodworking - ZackDark, 2016-04-06, 09:56
- Minecraft =/= CAD - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-06, 14:49
- You can't eat dinner off of LEGOs???
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 02:38
- BS - Blackt1g3r, 2016-04-06, 14:11
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Schedonnardus,
2016-04-06, 18:19
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 18:36
- Minecraft =/= CAD - Mid7night, 2016-04-06, 21:16
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 18:36
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Mid7night,
2016-04-06, 02:35
- Minecraft =/= CAD -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 02:25
- Too Big to Fail -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-05, 23:08
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 23:15
- Yeah, Claude was right... cause of the HBO technicality... -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-05, 23:53
- Too Big to Fail -
uberfoop,
2016-04-06, 01:37
- Too float to Fail - dogcow, 2016-04-06, 13:53
- Yeah, Claude was right... cause of the HBO technicality...
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 23:15
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 22:52
- Too Big to Fail -
slycrel,
2016-04-06, 12:47
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 13:44
- I.... have no words... =) -
slycrel,
2016-04-06, 13:48
- Too Big to Fail -
dogcow,
2016-04-06, 14:01
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:09
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:14
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:19
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:28
- Too Big to Fail -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 14:37
- Too Big to Fail - Cody Miller, 2016-04-06, 14:55
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:58
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 15:03
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 15:28
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 15:37
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 15:41
- Too Big to Fail - MacAddictXIV, 2016-04-06, 15:43
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 15:41
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 15:37
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 15:28
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 15:03
- Too Big to Fail -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 14:37
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:28
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:19
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:14
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:09
- Too Big to Fail -
Korny,
2016-04-06, 14:10
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:17
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:18
- Too Big to Fail - Korny, 2016-04-06, 14:25
- Too Big to Fail -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-06, 16:43
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:54
- Too Big to Fail -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-06, 17:08
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 17:10
- Too Big to Fail - uberfoop, 2016-04-06, 17:15
- Sounds like april fools 2017 has a theme. ;) -
slycrel,
2016-04-06, 17:20
- +1 -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-06, 17:25
- Sounds like april fools 2017 has a theme. ;) -
Kermit,
2016-04-06, 17:32
- Avril -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 18:34
- Can't work. I'm the only one who likes her. :( -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 19:57
- Can't work. I'm the only one who likes her. :(
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 18:38
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 18:39
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 18:44
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 19:54
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 19:56
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? - Cody Miller, 2016-04-06, 19:59
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
Funkmon,
2016-04-06, 19:56
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 19:54
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-06, 18:44
- No, no, no. -
Leviathan,
2016-04-06, 22:47
- Soooo, My Little Pony? -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 23:16
- Soooo, My Little Pony?
- DYK that I also love Katie Perry and Kylie Minogue? -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 18:39
- Avril -
ZackDark,
2016-04-06, 18:34
- +1
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 17:10
- Good Cody, Bad Cody -
narcogen,
2016-04-07, 01:02
- Good Cody, Bad Cody -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-07, 01:23
- Good Cody, Bad Cody -
narcogen,
2016-04-07, 04:12
- Good Cody, Bad Cody - Cody Miller, 2016-04-07, 12:17
- Good Cody, Bad Cody -
narcogen,
2016-04-07, 04:12
- Good Cody, Bad Cody -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-07, 01:23
- Too Big to Fail -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-06, 17:08
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:54
- Too Big to Fail -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-06, 14:18
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 14:17
- I.... have no words... =)
- Portal == Narbacular Drop 2. -
dogcow,
2016-04-06, 13:47
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 13:44
- Your view of GAMING is insane. -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-05, 22:30
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 22:24
- Uh, what? - Kahzgul, 2016-04-06, 22:29
- Too Big to Fail -
Revenant1988,
2016-04-05, 22:08
- Too Big to Fail -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-05, 19:26
- Played the demo, not impressed/VERY impressed -
ZackDark,
2016-04-05, 21:36
- Played the demo, not impressed/VERY impressed - Xenos, 2016-04-06, 13:00
- Even if it's true, I'm fine with it. - Funkmon, 2016-04-05, 22:07
- 550 million in the first month -
Durandal,
2016-04-05, 22:08
- 550 million in the first month -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-05, 22:39
- Yep. Sounds cool. -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-05, 23:10
- Yep. Sounds cool.
- 550 million in the first month - narcogen, 2016-04-06, 06:39
- Can we please stop using the $500 million figure -
Xenos,
2016-04-06, 13:05
- Can we please stop using the $500 million figure - Durandal, 2016-04-06, 14:22
- 550 million in the first month -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-05, 22:39
- Square probably needed to stop making FF games long ago -
Avateur,
2016-04-05, 23:10
- Square probably needed to stop making FF games long ago - Cody Miller, 2016-04-05, 23:19
- Square Enix gonna Square Enix (but it's not just them) -
someotherguy,
2016-04-06, 15:48
- Square Enix gonna Square Enix (but it's not just them) - Cody Miller, 2016-04-06, 15:55
- I disagree with a lot of your minor points and examples... -
Leviathan,
2016-04-06, 16:45
- I disagree with a lot of your minor points and examples... -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:51
- I disagree with a lot of your minor points and examples... -
Leviathan,
2016-04-06, 17:27
- I disagree with a lot of your minor points and examples... - Xenos, 2016-04-06, 17:31
- I disagree with a lot of your minor points and examples... -
Leviathan,
2016-04-06, 17:27
- I disagree with a lot of your minor points and examples... -
Cody Miller,
2016-04-06, 16:51
- Most AAA games don't spend 10 years in development hell. -
CyberKN,
2016-04-05, 18:27