MASSIVE SPOILERS LIE HERE (Off-Topic)

by cheapLEY , Monday, December 21, 2015, 13:56 (3263 days ago) @ ZackDark

My only issue right now is: the Jedi seem like little babies. It just hit me tonight after I watched Revenge of the Sith.

Yoda, after failing to defeat Palpatine, immediately declares he must go into exile. Then in the OT when we first see him, he's hanging out, doing nothing, and even initially doesn't want to train Luke.

Now we have Luke doing the same thing after failing with Ben Solo.

Why are the Jedi so quick to give up and go into exile after making mistakes?

It seems meditation before action is a big thing for them. Leads right to silly stuff like these...

I mean, I get that, but it seems like Yoda was pretty content to just hang out in a swamp until he died. Doesn't seem like he really had any plans to train Luke, until Luke came to him.

Of course, he spent that time training with Qui-Gon, so it's not like he wasn't doing anything. But they just don't seem to be about making sure things get done.

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Just saw Star Wars *NO SP* - Avateur, 2015-12-18, 03:58
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    - Just listened to Goodbye Yellow Brick Road. - Funkmon, 2015-12-18, 04:17
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    - Reach is Bae - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-12-18, 15:26
      - Reach is Bae - Korny, 2015-12-19, 07:19
        
        Preach it! - Kermit, 2015-12-19, 10:53
        
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  - Me and my sister are going to see it at 10 AM! - Avateur, 2015-12-18, 04:26
  - Me and my sister are going to see it at 10 AM! - bluerunner, 2015-12-18, 05:15
    - Our family of 6 is hitting the 9 AM show. Should be great! - slycrel, 2015-12-18, 06:10
    - The emotional rollercoaster is strong in this one - ZackDark, 2015-12-18, 07:29
    - OMG. Great move. - Funkmon, 2015-12-18, 08:11
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- Just saw Star Wars *NO SP* - stabbim, 2015-12-18, 04:21
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- A question. - cheapLEY, 2015-12-18, 04:21
  - Answer *sorta SP* - Avateur, 2015-12-18, 04:36
  - From a StarWars noobie perspective - Earendil, 2015-12-18, 17:03
    - My thoughts (definitely SP) - stabbim, 2015-12-21, 21:25
  - An answer (maybe kinda spoiler maybe) - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-12-19, 22:59
  - A question. - Cody Miller, 2015-12-20, 21:30
- Stuck at home - CougRon, 2015-12-18, 06:04
  - Sounds like a good Christmas present! - Avateur, 2015-12-18, 06:15
  - Have you tried running? - Funkmon, 2015-12-18, 08:54
    - I'm pretty sure he's not supposed to run...? - ZackDark, 2015-12-18, 10:17
      - Why don't you just try walking on your hands? - Funkmon, 2015-12-18, 17:52
        
        Why don't you just try walking on your hands? - stabbim, 2015-12-18, 18:13
- The real question: would you gladly pay to see it again? - ZackDark, 2015-12-18, 10:54
  - Yep - Xenos, 2015-12-18, 13:57
  - That might be up to the person - Earendil, 2015-12-18, 17:06
  - Yes - Avateur, 2015-12-18, 17:40
  - I already have. - Monochron, 2015-12-19, 20:04
  - We're going again tomorrow. So, yes? - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-12-19, 22:52
  - Absolutely - JDQuackers, 2015-12-20, 01:09
  - Yes indeed. - Quirel, 2015-12-22, 04:53
  - Yes, already making plans to do so - stabbim, 2015-12-22, 04:58
- Showing Sammy the Star Wars films for the first time... - Korny, 2015-12-18, 17:17
  - Showing Sammy the Star Wars films for the first time... - dogcow, 2015-12-18, 17:58
    - Showing Sammy the Star Wars films for the first time... - Blackt1g3r, 2015-12-18, 18:00
      - Showing Sammy the Star Wars films for the first time... - dogcow, 2015-12-18, 18:20
        
        Showing Sammy the Star Wars films for the first time... - Avateur, 2015-12-18, 18:29
        
        Showing Sammy the Star Wars films for the first time... - dogcow, 2015-12-18, 18:32
        
        7 should be fine. - Funkmon, 2015-12-18, 18:43
  - I don't know why people give the remastered versions crap. - Funkmon, 2015-12-18, 18:50
    - I don't know why people give the remastered versions crap. - Xenos, 2015-12-18, 19:14
      - I don't know. - Funkmon, 2015-12-18, 19:46
        
        I don't know. - Xenos, 2015-12-18, 19:48
        
        Oh. I have them. Maybe I got lucky? - Funkmon, 2015-12-18, 19:57
        
        Oh. I have them. Maybe I got lucky? - dogcow, 2015-12-18, 20:05
        
        Oh. I have them. Maybe I got lucky? - Xenos, 2015-12-18, 20:06
        
        Oh. I have them. Maybe I got lucky? - dogcow, 2015-12-18, 20:08
        
        Same. Generally not preferable. - Funkmon, 2015-12-18, 20:11
        
        Two things - Monochron, 2015-12-19, 20:16
    - I don't know why people give the remastered versions crap. - Cody Miller, 2015-12-19, 16:27
      - I'll watch them both tonight and see what I think. - Funkmon, 2015-12-19, 18:45
    - Minus one billion - Kermit, 2015-12-20, 04:36
      - Minus one billion - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-12-20, 15:50
        
        Minus one billion - Kermit, 2015-12-21, 02:07
      - Minus one billion - Funkmon, 2015-12-20, 20:57
        
        Minus one billion - Cody Miller, 2015-12-20, 21:22
        
        One billion percent right - narcogen, 2015-12-20, 22:58
        
        Minus one billion - Funkmon, 2015-12-28, 01:11
        
        Minus one billion - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-12-28, 14:14
        
        Minus one billion - Kermit, 2015-12-30, 01:18
        
        Yeah, but Disney = white slavers! - Avateur, 2015-12-30, 22:44
        
        Minus one billion - Kermit, 2015-12-21, 03:34
        
        Minus one billion - Kermit, 2015-12-21, 17:46
  - Just finished watching Despec - MrPadraig08, 2015-12-18, 19:21
    - Just finished watching Despec - Korny, 2015-12-19, 13:23
      - That vid... Thank you. Thank you, Korny - ZackDark, 2015-12-19, 13:35
      - Just finished watching Despec - MrPadraig08, 2015-12-21, 13:23
        
        Just finished watching Despec - Korny, 2015-12-21, 14:14
        
        Actually, to bring it full circle beautifully... - Korny, 2015-12-21, 15:56
        
        Just finished watching Despec - stabbim, 2015-12-22, 16:11
    - Just finished watching Despec - uberfoop, 2015-12-19, 20:58
      - Just finished watching Despec - MrPadraig08, 2015-12-20, 00:38
    - N00b Question... - breitzen, 2015-12-26, 20:39
- Curmudgeon's opinion, where I rank all 7 movies. No spoilers - Funkmon, 2015-12-18, 18:21
  - Your ranking is wrong. ;-P :-) - dogcow, 2015-12-18, 18:32
    - No way! - Funkmon, 2015-12-18, 18:41
      - No way! - Xenos, 2015-12-18, 18:52
        
        No way! - Avateur, 2015-12-18, 19:02
        
        Super excited Rogue One - Blackt1g3r, 2015-12-18, 19:06
        
        Same! - Avateur, 2015-12-18, 19:10
        
        Same! - Blackt1g3r, 2015-12-18, 19:15
        
        No way! - Kermit, 2015-12-22, 17:47
        
        No way! - Avateur, 2015-12-23, 01:14
      - No way! - dogcow, 2015-12-18, 19:06
      - No way! - Avateur, 2015-12-18, 19:08
        
        lol - cheapLEY, 2015-12-18, 23:02
        
        Saber fights in Phantom Menace - ZackDark, 2015-12-21, 02:27
        
        Saber fights in Phantom Menace - cheapLEY, 2015-12-21, 03:30
      - No way! - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-12-23, 19:40
  - Nice thoughts. Here's some of mine - Avateur, 2015-12-18, 18:56
    - I'm going to reply with spoilers. This will spoil the plot. - Funkmon, 2015-12-18, 19:20
      - Same *SP* - Avateur, 2015-12-18, 19:40
        
        Same *SP* - Funkmon, 2015-12-18, 19:51
        
        Same * SW 7 SP* - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-12-19, 19:21
      - I'm going to reply with spoilers. This will spoil the plot. - ZackDark, 2015-12-21, 02:33
  - Curmudgeon's opinion, where I rank all 7 movies. No spoilers - Cody Miller, 2015-12-18, 20:46
  - I have never encountered opinions like those... - Monochron, 2015-12-19, 20:07
    - Welcome to Funkmon's world - stabbim, 2015-12-22, 18:02
- Just saw Star Wars *NO SP* - MrPadraig08, 2015-12-18, 19:08
  - Just saw Star Wars *NO SP* - Avateur, 2015-12-18, 19:16
    - No spoil thoughts - MrPadraig08, 2015-12-18, 19:59
      - No spoil thoughts - Avateur, 2015-12-18, 20:13
        
        Prep my shuttle - MrPadraig08, 2015-12-18, 20:31
      - Spoil thoughts - MrPadraig08, 2015-12-18, 20:31
        
        Spoil thoughts - Cody Miller, 2015-12-19, 16:34
        
        Spoil thoughts - MrPadraig08, 2015-12-20, 00:40
        
        Spoil thoughts - JDQuackers, 2015-12-20, 01:38
        
        Spoil thoughts - cheapLEY, 2015-12-20, 02:24
        
        Spoil thoughts - Cody Miller, 2015-12-20, 06:22
- Another question (SPOILERS) - cheapLEY, 2015-12-19, 02:52
  - Another question (SPOILERS) - Funkmon, 2015-12-19, 05:37
  - Another question (SPOILERS) - Avateur, 2015-12-20, 01:51
- Just saw Star Wars *NO SP* - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-12-19, 22:52
  - Just saw Star Wars *NO SP* - Kermit, 2015-12-21, 02:10
- Some Thoughts *SPOILERS* - cheapLEY, 2015-12-20, 02:21
  - Some Thoughts *SPOILERS* - Beorn, 2015-12-21, 01:28
    - Some Thoughts *SPOILERS* - cheapLEY, 2015-12-21, 03:38
  - "Grinning like an idiot" is the perfect phrase for this film - ZackDark, 2015-12-21, 02:38
- Just saw it myself. One word: Yes. - ZackDark, 2015-12-21, 02:38
  - *MASSIVE SPOILERS LIE HERE* - ZackDark, 2015-12-21, 02:45
    - *MASSIVE SPOILERS LIE HERE* - cheapLEY, 2015-12-21, 03:47
      - They've got 99 problems but a Sith ain't one - Avateur, 2015-12-21, 04:02
      - *MASSIVE SPOILERS LIE HERE* - ZackDark, 2015-12-21, 13:38
        
        *MASSIVE SPOILERS LIE HERE* - cheapLEY, 2015-12-21, 13:56
        
        And people complain about MY procrastination... - ZackDark, 2015-12-21, 14:45
        
        RotS Novel is a MUST READ - *MASSIVE SPOILERS LIE HERE* - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-12-21, 15:29
        
        This. Just... This. - ZackDark, 2015-12-21, 15:38
        
        RotS Novel is a MUST READ - *MASSIVE SPOILERS LIE HERE* - cheapLEY, 2015-12-21, 16:50
        
        RotS Novel is a MUST READ - *MASSIVE SPOILERS LIE HERE* - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-12-21, 22:21
        
        RotS Novel is a MUST READ - *MASSIVE SPOILERS LIE HERE* - cheapLEY, 2015-12-22, 01:59
        
        RotS Novel is a MUST READ - *MASSIVE SPOILERS LIE HERE* - Avateur, 2015-12-22, 02:34
  - The real question: would you gladly pay to see it again? ;) - Avateur, 2015-12-21, 03:00
    - Yes. - ZackDark, 2015-12-21, 13:38
- Sammy and I saw it last night *no spoilz* - Korny, 2015-12-21, 11:34
  - Sammy and I saw it last night *no spoilz* - ZackDark, 2015-12-21, 13:40
    - Sammy and I saw it last night *no spoilz* - Xenos, 2015-12-21, 16:30
      - YOU SHUT YOUR PIE-HOLE RIGHT NOW - ZackDark, 2015-12-21, 17:38
      - DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS! - LostSpartan, 2015-12-21, 22:39
        
        DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS! - stabbim, 2015-12-22, 14:49
  - Sammy and I saw it last night *no spoilz* - MrPadraig08, 2015-12-21, 14:52
    - Sammy and I saw it last night *no spoilz* - bluerunner, 2015-12-21, 22:05
  - Also - ZackDark, 2015-12-21, 14:56
  - No KotOR? - stabbim, 2015-12-22, 05:01
- Perhaps I can no longer feel joy. - Bones, 2015-12-22, 01:34
  - Perhaps I can no longer feel joy. - Ragashingo, 2015-12-22, 02:41
  - Perhaps I can no longer feel joy. - Avateur, 2015-12-22, 03:01
    - Perhaps I can no longer feel joy. - cheapLEY, 2015-12-22, 12:03
      - Actually: *SPOILERS* - cheapLEY, 2015-12-22, 12:37
        
        Actually: *SPOILERS* - stabbim, 2015-12-22, 14:48
        
        Actually: *SPOILERS* - Ragashingo, 2015-12-22, 15:46
        
        Actually: *SPOILERS* - Cody Miller, 2015-12-22, 16:06
        
        Actually: *SPOILERS* - Korny, 2015-12-22, 17:25
        
        Actually: *SPOILERS* - ZackDark, 2015-12-22, 22:33
        
        Actually: *SPOILERS* - Ragashingo, 2015-12-22, 22:37
        
        Actually: *SPOILERS* - Xenos, 2015-12-22, 17:35
        
        Actually: *SPOILERS* - Korny, 2015-12-22, 17:56
    - Perhaps I can no longer feel joy. - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-12-24, 05:07
      - Heh :) - Ragashingo, 2015-12-24, 06:02
      - Perhaps I can no longer feel joy. - Avateur, 2015-12-25, 04:40
  - Welcome to Star Wars. - Funkmon, 2015-12-24, 15:49
- It was alright. - Quirel, 2015-12-22, 05:05
- Finally saw it last night. - Claude Errera, 2015-12-22, 17:39
  - Finally saw it last night. *SP* - Kermit, 2015-12-22, 19:45
  - Biggest plot-hole in the movie that irked me beyond reason - ZackDark, 2015-12-22, 22:41
    - Biggest plot-hole in the movie that irked me beyond reason - cheapLEY, 2015-12-22, 22:47
  - Finally saw it last night. - CYBRFRK, 2016-01-07, 18:12
    - Don't worry. History will be on your side, CYBR. - Funkmon, 2016-01-07, 18:13
      - Only if Episode VIII does nothing special - Avateur, 2016-01-08, 15:30
- On Star Wars and JJ Abrams... *no spoilers* - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-12-24, 16:18
  - On Star Wars and JJ Abrams... *no spoilers* - cheapLEY, 2015-12-24, 17:05
    - On Star Wars and JJ Abrams... *no spoilers* - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-12-24, 18:21
      - A more in depth reply, once you've seen it *SPOILERS* - cheapLEY, 2015-12-24, 23:56
  - On Star Wars and JJ Abrams... *no spoilers* - Avateur, 2015-12-25, 05:36
    - On Star Wars and JJ Abrams... *no spoilers* - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-12-25, 12:06
      - On Star Wars and JJ Abrams... *no spoilers* - ZackDark, 2015-12-25, 16:11
      - On Star Wars and JJ Abrams... *no spoilers* - Avateur, 2015-12-25, 16:40
        
        Here's a question for you *The Force Awakens Spoilers* - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-12-25, 22:38
        
        Here's a question for you *The Force Awakens Spoilers* - Ragashingo, 2015-12-25, 23:26
        
        Here's a question for you *The Force Awakens Spoilers* - cheapLEY, 2015-12-26, 17:40
        
        Here's a question for you *The Force Awakens Spoilers* - breitzen, 2015-12-25, 23:38
        
        On Star Wars and JJ Abrams... *no spoilers* - Xenos, 2015-12-26, 17:46
        
        On Star Wars and JJ Abrams... *no spoilers* - Ragashingo, 2015-12-26, 17:58
        
        On Star Wars and JJ Abrams... *no spoilers* - Xenos, 2015-12-26, 18:05
        
        On Star Wars and JJ Abrams... *no spoilers* - marmot 1333, 2015-12-26, 21:53
        
        On Star Wars and JJ Abrams... *no spoilers* - cheapLEY, 2015-12-26, 22:42
        
        On Star Wars and JJ Abrams... *no spoilers* - Avateur, 2015-12-26, 22:56
        
        On Star Wars and JJ Abrams... *no spoilers* - Xenos, 2015-12-26, 23:52
        
        Confirmed. In novelization. Can go FTL. - Funkmon, 2015-12-27, 00:19
        
        Confirmed. In novelization. Can go FTL. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-12-27, 01:34
        
        Confirmed. In novelization. Can go FTL. - cheapLEY, 2015-12-27, 01:43
        
        Confirmed. In novelization. Can go FTL. - Avateur, 2015-12-27, 04:52
        
        Also confirmed in the movie - ZackDark, 2015-12-27, 13:59
        
        The Hell it can. - Quirel, 2016-01-09, 04:27
        
        The Hell it can. - Funkmon, 2016-01-09, 04:34
        
        On Star Wars and JJ Abrams... *no spoilers* - tadboz, 2015-12-31, 21:37
    - Rian Johnson! - cheapLEY, 2015-12-25, 14:14
      - Rian Johnson! - Xenos, 2015-12-26, 17:42
- Watched movie. Meh. - ProbablyLast, 2015-12-25, 21:18
- Just saw Star Wars a 2nd time - no spoilers - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-12-31, 14:05
  - Just saw Star Wars a 2nd time - no spoilers - TheeChaos, 2015-12-31, 14:08
  - Just saw Star Wars a 2nd time - no spoilers - Xenos, 2015-12-31, 15:41
  - I liked it better the second time, too. - Kermit, 2016-01-01, 22:57
    - I didn't - ZackDark, 2016-01-02, 01:11
      - Me either. - Funkmon, 2016-01-02, 03:35
        
        I disagree - Avateur, 2016-01-02, 03:50
        
        I disagree - Ragashingo, 2016-01-02, 04:20
        
        I agree. Also a completely inapplicable Bob Seger metaphor. - Funkmon, 2016-01-02, 05:29
        
        I disagree - Korny, 2016-01-02, 05:39
  - Just saw Star Wars a 2nd time - no spoilers - Avateur, 2016-01-02, 00:19
    - Just saw Star Wars a 2nd time - no spoilers - Quirel, 2016-01-02, 04:57
      - Just saw Star Wars a 2nd time - no spoilers - Avateur, 2016-01-03, 00:07
        
        Yep, definitely going for a new viewing now - ZackDark, 2016-01-03, 06:42
- Saw it a second time. A few observations: - Ragashingo, 2016-01-10, 23:33
  - Saw it a second time. A few observations: - Xenos, 2016-01-10, 23:53
    - Ah. Thanks. :) - Ragashingo, 2016-01-11, 02:11
  - Saw it a second time. A few observations: - ZackDark, 2016-01-11, 02:34

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