I like FFXIII as well... (Destiny)
That I like FFXIII is mostly because I don't really agree that the "opening up" makes a huge difference on fun. Sure, the game is (usually) not very challenging just to get through it, but if you aren't just autobattling the whole time, it gives you things to do to try and optimize, even if the impact is minor.
And that's really ultimately the problem. The battle system is certainly more complex than previous Final Fantasy games, but even it ultimately is not that complex a system. You can pretty much get through the game with the same paradigm decks, maybe switching one or two special ones in there for certain bosses.
Many paradigm combos are just so good, they completely outshine others. Mystic Tower, Relentless Assault, Smart Bomb, Combat Clinic, Aggression, and Hero's Charge as your deck will get you through the vast majority of the game. Once you start unlocking additional roles you can roll in stuff like Rapid Growth. Any optimizations really give you minor gains. Maybe this isn't as true in the after game optional stuff, but I didn't play that because I did not want to grind for level, gear, and weapon parts.
The idea though of a game opening up and becoming fun after you put hours into it is bogus. A game should be fun immediately. This is my worry for Destiny since it has no difficulty selector. I'm sure I will have fun doing all the story missions, but once I am level 20, getting gear with light will be a must to do higher level missions, which you'll have to undertake if you actually want challenge. But unlike a difficulty selector, you can't just roll into a level 30 raid at level 20. You'd do 1 damage. So you have to play the game of working the random drop system to get either the loot you want, or the exotic currency to buy the loot you want. THEN you can have the fun on the difficult stuff.
Complete thread:
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316),
2014-08-07, 17:05
- I could nit pick just about everything you just posted. . . -
INSANEdrive,
2014-08-07, 17:53
- Please do. Let's discuss. -
Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316),
2014-08-07, 18:23
- Please do. Let's discuss. -
INSANEdrive,
2014-08-07, 18:42
- Please do. Let's discuss. - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-07, 18:51
- BANGO. - Malagate, 2014-08-07, 20:15
- Please do. Let's discuss. -
INSANEdrive,
2014-08-07, 18:42
- Please do. Let's discuss. -
Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316),
2014-08-07, 18:23
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-07, 18:41
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316),
2014-08-07, 20:24
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* - Ragashingo, 2014-08-07, 22:18
- "Your demeanor is that of a pouting child." -
Korny,
2014-08-08, 11:26
- "Your demeanor is that of a pouting child." -
Bones,
2014-08-08, 13:43
- "Your demeanor is that of a pouting child." - Korny, 2014-08-08, 14:39
- "Your demeanor is that of a pouting child." - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-08, 16:10
- "Your demeanor is that of a pouting child." -
Bones,
2014-08-08, 13:43
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316),
2014-08-07, 20:24
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Miguel Chavez,
2014-08-07, 20:27
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-07, 20:38
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
DEEP_NNN,
2014-08-07, 20:33
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316),
2014-08-07, 20:45
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* - DEEP_NNN, 2014-08-08, 06:40
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316),
2014-08-07, 20:45
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Revenant1988,
2014-08-07, 21:03
- Definitely "Tubeships" -
ZackDark,
2014-08-07, 21:17
- I know where you live. :p - Ragashingo, 2014-08-07, 22:26
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2014-08-08, 20:38
- Definitely "Tubeships" -
ZackDark,
2014-08-07, 21:17
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* - Kalamari, 2014-08-07, 21:13
- Snipe's tears are delicious -
ZaneZavin,
2014-08-07, 22:24
- Snipe's tears are delicious -
uberfoop,
2014-08-07, 23:47
- I like FFXIII... -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-07, 23:54
- I like FFXIII as well... -
uberfoop,
2014-08-08, 00:07
- I like FFXIII as well... - Cody Miller, 2014-08-08, 01:09
- I like FFXIII as well... -
uberfoop,
2014-08-08, 00:07
- I like FFXIII... -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-07, 23:54
- Snipe's tears are delicious -
uberfoop,
2014-08-07, 23:47
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-08, 00:45
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
electricpirate,
2014-08-08, 03:54
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Decom,
2014-08-08, 05:32
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Avateur,
2014-08-08, 11:06
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-08, 11:09
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Avateur,
2014-08-08, 11:12
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-08, 11:15
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Avateur,
2014-08-08, 21:24
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* - Ragashingo, 2014-08-08, 21:49
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Avateur,
2014-08-08, 21:24
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* - DaDerga, 2014-08-08, 11:18
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-08, 11:15
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-08, 11:46
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* - petetheduck, 2014-08-08, 14:05
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Avateur,
2014-08-08, 11:12
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-08, 11:09
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Avateur,
2014-08-08, 11:06
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Decom,
2014-08-08, 05:32
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
JDQuackers,
2014-08-08, 05:39
- It pulsates so slowly, though... -
ZackDark,
2014-08-08, 08:20
- TWSS -
JDQuackers,
2014-08-08, 08:41
- Yeah... In hindsight, I pretty much asked for it - ZackDark, 2014-08-08, 08:51
- TWSS -
JDQuackers,
2014-08-08, 08:41
- It pulsates so slowly, though... -
ZackDark,
2014-08-08, 08:20
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
electricpirate,
2014-08-08, 03:54
- I disagree with you for the most part -
kidtsunami,
2014-08-08, 02:46
- Good rebuttal - Kermit, 2014-08-08, 08:36
- I disagree with you for the most part -
Avateur,
2014-08-08, 11:20
- I disagree with you for the most part -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-08, 12:05
- I disagree with you for the most part - Avateur, 2014-08-08, 21:18
- I disagree with you for the most part -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-08, 12:05
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* - Speedracer513, 2014-08-08, 06:50
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
yakaman,
2014-08-08, 06:57
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-08, 10:34
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Claude Errera,
2014-08-08, 11:08
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-08, 11:43
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-08, 12:46
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
petetheduck,
2014-08-08, 12:53
- Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode... - Korny, 2014-08-08, 13:28
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-08, 13:09
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
uberfoop,
2014-08-08, 13:13
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
RC,
2014-08-08, 13:27
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* - Ragashingo, 2014-08-08, 13:33
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
RC,
2014-08-08, 13:27
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-08, 13:24
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* - Cody Miller, 2014-08-08, 13:46
- On difficulty... -
Korny,
2014-08-08, 14:15
- On difficulty... - Kermit, 2014-08-08, 15:09
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
uberfoop,
2014-08-08, 13:13
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
petetheduck,
2014-08-08, 12:53
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-08, 12:46
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-08, 11:43
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Claude Errera,
2014-08-08, 11:08
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* - kapowaz, 2014-08-09, 10:12
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-08, 10:34
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* - petetheduck, 2014-08-08, 07:43
- So... Halo must not have been for me... - Doooskey, 2014-08-08, 08:07
- Expectations and Elitism -
RC,
2014-08-08, 11:35
- Expectations and Elitism - Cody Miller, 2014-08-08, 11:58
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* - bluerunner, 2014-08-08, 11:43
- The Rest. - Ragashingo, 2014-08-08, 16:37
- ITT: Your Opinions Are Bad And You Should Feel Bad - kapowaz, 2014-08-08, 17:44
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
BlackCoffee_AU,
2014-08-10, 05:18
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
kapowaz,
2014-08-10, 09:07
- +1, for both statements - ZackDark, 2014-08-10, 09:28
- Very disappointed in Destiny. *long* *TL;DR included* -
kapowaz,
2014-08-10, 09:07
- I could nit pick just about everything you just posted. . . -
INSANEdrive,
2014-08-07, 17:53