
Agree... (Gaming)
On the other hand, maybe shitty jokes are just shitty jokes and we don’t have to accept “but it’s art!” as a defense.
On the third hand, saying the shitty joke should stay in isn't the same thing as debating whether the joke is shitty. The presence of a shitty joke may be more instructive about and reflective of its time than any high-minded abstractions about the bad old days. Include, if they must, a disclaimer that everyone is forced to watch like they now do with Blazing Saddles, if they think their audience requires it.I'm not saying that anyone who dislikes the shitty jokes (I would guess I'm in that camp) or is offended by them is wrong. I am saying that sanitizing history to preserve a state of non-offense is a bad trade--one that infantilizes us.
I think that’s a silly way to think, honestly. If changing a couple of jokes to reissue a game can let a modern audience enjoy that game mostly intact without actually making people feel bad, we lose absolutely nothing by doing so. This isn’t sanitizing or erasing history—it’s the opposite. It’s recognizing past mistakes, owning them, and making sure not to make them again.
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- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 00:42
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
ManKitten,
2020-12-10, 05:55
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 09:43
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
ManKitten,
2020-12-10, 10:03
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 10:38
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
ManKitten,
2020-12-10, 11:24
- And also: -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 12:07
- And also: - ManKitten, 2020-12-10, 12:28
- And also: - Cody Miller, 2020-12-10, 12:47
- Oh, you zany kids and your hearty endorsement of censorship! -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 15:42
- Oh, you zany kids and your hearty endorsement of censorship! -
ManKitten,
2020-12-10, 16:23
- Oh, you zany kids and your hearty endorsement of censorship! - Kermit, 2020-12-10, 16:39
- Give me a break. -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 16:37
- Give me a break. -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 17:04
- Give me a break. - cheapLEY, 2020-12-10, 17:09
- Give me a break. -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 17:04
- Self censorship is a whole different bag from "censorship"
- kidtsunami, 2020-12-10, 18:50
- Self censorship is a whole different bag from "censorship" -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 20:29
- Self censorship is a whole different bag from "censorship" - kidtsunami, 2020-12-11, 06:34
- Self censorship is a whole different bag from "censorship" -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 20:29
- Oh, you zany kids and your hearty endorsement of censorship! -
ManKitten,
2020-12-10, 16:23
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation - Cody Miller, 2020-12-10, 12:44
- And also: -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 12:07
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
ManKitten,
2020-12-10, 11:24
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 10:38
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
ManKitten,
2020-12-10, 10:03
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 09:43
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 05:56
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 08:18
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 09:17
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 09:25
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
squidnh3,
2020-12-10, 09:45
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 09:52
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation - cheapLEY, 2020-12-10, 09:56
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
squidnh3,
2020-12-10, 11:02
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 12:42
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
EffortlessFury,
2020-12-11, 08:31
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:38
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
EffortlessFury,
2020-12-11, 08:48
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:50
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
EffortlessFury,
2020-12-11, 08:52
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 09:05
- Perhaps you misunderstood - EffortlessFury, 2020-12-11, 09:09
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 09:05
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
EffortlessFury,
2020-12-11, 08:52
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:50
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
EffortlessFury,
2020-12-11, 08:48
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:38
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
EffortlessFury,
2020-12-11, 08:31
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 12:42
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 09:52
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
squidnh3,
2020-12-10, 09:45
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 09:25
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 09:17
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 08:18
- Agree... -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 16:10
- Agree... -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 16:13
- Agree... -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 16:35
- Agree... -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 16:40
- Agree... -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 16:47
- Agree... - cheapLEY, 2020-12-10, 16:58
- Calling people children for taking offense -
kidtsunami,
2020-12-10, 18:43
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 20:18
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Claude Errera,
2020-12-11, 06:28
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Kermit,
2020-12-11, 07:26
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Claude Errera,
2020-12-11, 08:01
- Calling people children for taking offense -
squidnh3,
2020-12-11, 08:23
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:46
- Calling people children for taking offense - Kermit, 2020-12-11, 08:54
- Calling people children for taking offense - squidnh3, 2020-12-11, 09:17
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:46
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:44
- Calling people children for taking offense -
EffortlessFury,
2020-12-11, 08:56
- Calling people children for taking offense - Cody Miller, 2020-12-11, 09:07
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Claude Errera,
2020-12-11, 09:57
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Kermit,
2020-12-11, 10:10
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Claude Errera,
2020-12-11, 10:42
- Calling people children for taking offense - Kermit, 2020-12-11, 13:00
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Claude Errera,
2020-12-11, 10:42
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Kermit,
2020-12-11, 10:10
- Calling people children for taking offense -
EffortlessFury,
2020-12-11, 08:56
- Calling people children for taking offense - Kermit, 2020-12-11, 09:36
- Calling people children for taking offense -
squidnh3,
2020-12-11, 08:23
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Claude Errera,
2020-12-11, 08:01
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:35
- Calling people children for taking offense -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-11, 08:42
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:47
- Calling people children for taking offense -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-11, 09:03
- Calling people children for taking offense - Kermit, 2020-12-11, 09:16
- Calling people children for taking offense -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-11, 09:03
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:47
- Calling people children for taking offense -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-11, 08:42
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Kermit,
2020-12-11, 07:26
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Claude Errera,
2020-12-11, 06:28
- It's also not even just about offending people... - EffortlessFury, 2020-12-11, 08:44
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 20:18
- Agree... -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 16:47
- Agree... -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 16:40
- Agree... -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 16:35
- Agree... -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 16:13
- Star Wars versions. Despecialized, 4K77? -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-31, 17:47
- Star Wars versions. Despecialized, 4K77? - Kermit, 2021-01-02, 12:59
- Star Wars versions. Despecialized, 4K77? - Cody Miller, 2021-01-02, 13:04
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
ManKitten,
2020-12-10, 05:55