Revenue (Destiny)
As a reality check, though: they can't afford not to think about a commercial model or have a business plan. That has to be part of the equation.
Absolutely, and it seems like they've found a way to maintain a viable financial model for Destiny going forward. I would imagine that cutting Activision out of the revenue stream will help substantially with that.
And my experience in life is that you get what you pay for. I pay, for instance, for the privilege of never watching TV commercials.
I'm with you 100%. I pre-ordered the Shadowkeep Collector's Edition from the Bungie Store yesterday. I'm on board. ;-) I have happily supported Bungie for many years, and I have rarely been disappointed with my 'investment.'
And my experience of "free-to-play" is that those games become tacky (if they're not born that way), and the need to insert adverts that generate revenue distract from the way I like to experience games.
I haven't played many free-to-play games (see previous point above), but those I have played (Apex Legends!) have seemed to walk the line appropriately. I have zero issue with the "new" Eververse setup. I've been saying since the store launched in D1 that I'd pay extra for the ability to get the things I want, rather than roll the dice. I think this is the right approach.
It's interesting to see all of the little changes that are happening now that Bungie owns the pipeline.
Complete thread:
- The Stream Reveal Thread: -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 10:02
- Destiny: New Light -- Free entry point for the game -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 10:12
- The Epic Partner line jebaited me so hard - Spec ops Grunt, 2019-06-06, 10:18
- ViDoc: Out of the Shadows *SP* *Video inside* -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 10:18
- Total armor rework looks amazing! -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 10:22
- Total armor rework looks amazing! -
bluerunner,
2019-06-06, 10:38
- Total armor rework looks amazing! -
DiscipleN2k,
2019-06-06, 10:42
- Peeking behind the veil - MacAddictXIV, 2019-06-07, 06:51
- Total armor rework looks amazing! -
DiscipleN2k,
2019-06-06, 10:42
- Total armor rework looks amazing! -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 10:52
- Upgrade of the century - ManKitten, 2019-06-06, 11:21
- Total armor rework looks amazing! - bluerunner, 2019-06-06, 13:11
- +1000 - INSANEdrive, 2019-06-06, 14:38
- Total armor rework looks amazing! -
bluerunner,
2019-06-06, 10:38
- Total armor rework looks amazing! -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 10:22
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 10:30
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-06-06, 15:00
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 15:06
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-06-06, 15:26
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
Ragashingo,
2019-06-06, 21:18
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 21:35
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-06-07, 06:57
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-07, 09:09
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. - ManKitten, 2019-06-07, 09:17
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
Harmanimus,
2019-06-07, 09:18
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-07, 09:53
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
Harmanimus,
2019-06-07, 10:57
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-06-07, 11:11
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. - Cody Miller, 2019-06-07, 11:14
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-06-07, 11:11
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
Harmanimus,
2019-06-07, 10:57
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-07, 09:53
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-07, 09:09
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. - Vortech, 2019-06-07, 07:27
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. - squidnh3, 2019-06-07, 11:10
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-06-07, 06:57
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 21:35
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
Ragashingo,
2019-06-06, 21:18
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-06-06, 15:26
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 15:06
- Booo! Datto is now doing a Q&A. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-06-06, 15:00
- The Stream Reveal Thread: - Cody Miller, 2019-06-06, 10:36
- The Stream Reveal Thread: -
FyreWulff,
2019-06-06, 10:43
- The Stream Reveal Thread: -
DiscipleN2k,
2019-06-06, 11:00
- The Stream Reveal Thread: -
FyreWulff,
2019-06-07, 05:01
- CrossPlay -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-06-07, 07:02
- CrossPlay -
FyreWulff,
2019-06-07, 08:28
- CrossPlay -
Kermit,
2019-06-07, 09:49
- CrossPlay -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-07, 11:17
- And another platform too - ZackDark, 2019-06-07, 11:23
- CrossPlay -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-07, 11:17
- CrossPlay -
Kermit,
2019-06-07, 09:49
- CrossPlay -
FyreWulff,
2019-06-07, 08:28
- CrossPlay -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-06-07, 07:02
- The Stream Reveal Thread: -
FyreWulff,
2019-06-07, 05:01
- The Stream Reveal Thread: -
DiscipleN2k,
2019-06-06, 11:00
- “Making Games We Want To Play” -
breitzen,
2019-06-06, 10:48
- Related: Curse of Osiris and Warmind are now free - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-06-06, 11:22
- A la carte content: my biggest concern. -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 10:58
- A la carte content: my biggest concern. -
squidnh3,
2019-06-06, 11:13
- Free to Play - narcogen, 2019-06-06, 11:23
- A la carte content: my biggest concern. - DiscipleN2k, 2019-06-06, 11:14
- A la carte content: my biggest concern. - bluerunner, 2019-06-06, 11:15
- A la carte content: my biggest concern. -
squidnh3,
2019-06-06, 11:13
- The Stream Reveal Thread: -
Vortech,
2019-06-06, 11:11
- The Stream Reveal Thread: -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 11:23
- The Stream Reveal Thread: -
Vortech,
2019-06-06, 11:52
- The Stream Reveal Thread: - cheapLEY, 2019-06-06, 12:30
- The Stream Reveal Thread: -
Vortech,
2019-06-06, 18:38
- The Stream Reveal Thread: -
Harmanimus,
2019-06-06, 19:44
- The Stream Reveal Thread: - Vortech, 2019-06-07, 07:29
- The Stream Reveal Thread: -
Harmanimus,
2019-06-06, 19:44
- The Stream Reveal Thread: -
Vortech,
2019-06-06, 11:52
- The Stream Reveal Thread: -
DiscipleN2k,
2019-06-06, 11:25
- The Stream Reveal Thread: -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 13:35
- The Stream Reveal Thread: -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-06, 13:37
- We play with controllers on PC too, you know... -
ZackDark,
2019-06-06, 19:09
- We play with controllers on PC too, you know... -
Vortech,
2019-06-07, 07:31
- Switch over. Plays exactly the same as on console -
ZackDark,
2019-06-07, 11:19
- Switch over. Plays exactly the same as on console - Harmanimus, 2019-06-07, 14:35
- Switch over. Plays exactly the same as on console -
ZackDark,
2019-06-07, 11:19
- We play with controllers on PC too, you know... -
Vortech,
2019-06-07, 07:31
- We play with controllers on PC too, you know... -
ZackDark,
2019-06-06, 19:09
- The Stream Reveal Thread: -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-06, 13:37
- The Stream Reveal Thread: -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 13:35
- Kotaku: Sony agreed to cross-save just yesterday. - cheapLEY, 2019-06-06, 11:31
- The Stream Reveal Thread: -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 11:23
- Finishing moves -
bluerunner,
2019-06-06, 11:28
- Finishing moves -
CougRon,
2019-06-06, 11:49
- Finishing moves - MacAddictXIV, 2019-06-07, 06:41
- Finishing moves -
CougRon,
2019-06-06, 11:49
- More info... - bluerunner, 2019-06-06, 11:33
- Cross-saves! -
Kermit,
2019-06-06, 11:46
- Cross-saves! - cheapLEY, 2019-06-06, 12:31
- Cross-saves! -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-06, 12:56
- Cross-saves! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-06-06, 15:41
- Cross-saves! -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-06, 17:17
- Cross-saves! - cheapLEY, 2019-06-06, 17:46
- Cross-saves! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-06-06, 17:50
- Cross-saves! -
Vortech,
2019-06-06, 18:19
- Cross-saves! - Cody Miller, 2019-06-07, 10:08
- Cross-saves! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-06-07, 10:23
- +7 - MacAddictXIV, 2019-06-07, 11:55
- Cross-saves! -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-07, 11:58
- Cross-saves! - cheapLEY, 2019-06-07, 14:21
- Cross-saves! -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-07, 10:10
- Cross-saves! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-06-07, 10:32
- Cross-saves! -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-07, 10:39
- Cross-saves! - Harmanimus, 2019-06-07, 11:01
- Cody now that's a little unfair -
CommanderCartman,
2019-06-07, 11:50
- Cody now that's a little unfair -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-07, 11:53
- they literally described that as a goal for the game now. - Vortech, 2019-06-08, 14:30
- Cody now that's a little unfair -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-07, 11:53
- Cross-saves! -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-07, 10:39
- Cross-saves! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-06-07, 10:32
- Cross-saves! -
Vortech,
2019-06-06, 18:19
- Cross-saves! - Harmanimus, 2019-06-06, 19:47
- It's a good thing movies and songs aren't games! - MacAddictXIV, 2019-06-07, 06:45
- Cross-saves! -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-06, 17:17
- Cross-saves! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-06-06, 15:41
- Preach it, Urk -
Beorn,
2019-06-06, 12:20
- Preach it, Urk - Cody Miller, 2019-06-06, 12:27
- Preach it, Urk -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 12:33
- Preach it, Urk -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-06, 12:54
- Preach it, Urk -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 13:08
- Preach it, Urk -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-06, 13:23
- Preach it, Urk - cheapLEY, 2019-06-06, 13:30
- Preach it, Urk -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-06, 13:23
- Preach it, Urk -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 13:08
- Preach it, Urk -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-06, 12:54
- Preach it, Urk -
Kermit,
2019-06-07, 10:09
- Preach it, Urk -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-07, 10:27
- Preach it, Urk -
Claude Errera,
2019-06-07, 10:58
- Preach it, Urk - Cody Miller, 2019-06-07, 11:02
- Preach it, Urk - Avateur, 2019-06-07, 15:04
- Preach it, Urk - Kermit, 2019-06-07, 12:04
- Preach it, Urk -
Claude Errera,
2019-06-07, 10:58
- Preach it, Urk - Harmanimus, 2019-06-07, 11:06
- Revenue -
Beorn,
2019-06-07, 13:28
- Preach it, Urk - Kermit, 2019-06-07, 13:45
- Collector’s Edition. -
Ragashingo,
2019-06-07, 17:47
- I wish there was a medium edition. - cheapLEY, 2019-06-07, 18:04
- Preach it, Urk -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-07, 10:27
- Dare I hope? This looks good... again. - INSANEdrive, 2019-06-06, 14:38
- I'm excited - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-06-06, 14:54
- As a lapsed player... -
Phoenix_9286,
2019-06-07, 07:25
- As a lapsed player... -
Vortech,
2019-06-07, 07:34
- As a lapsed player... -
Phoenix_9286,
2019-06-07, 08:04
- As a lapsed player... - Harmanimus, 2019-06-07, 09:12
- As a lapsed player... -
Phoenix_9286,
2019-06-07, 08:04
- As a lapsed player... -
Avateur,
2019-06-07, 14:54
- As a lapsed player... -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-07, 16:48
- As a lapsed player... -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-07, 18:06
- As a lapsed player... - Harmanimus, 2019-06-07, 18:26
- As a lapsed player... -
Avateur,
2019-06-07, 19:18
- As a lapsed player... - Cody Miller, 2019-06-07, 21:13
- As a lapsed player... -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-07, 18:06
- As a lapsed player... -
Cody Miller,
2019-06-07, 16:48
- As a lapsed player... -
Vortech,
2019-06-07, 07:34
- Destiny: New Light -- Free entry point for the game -
cheapLEY,
2019-06-06, 10:12