how do you make them like that? (Destiny)
I feel like Snipers and shotguns should hold much more ammo and do more damage in PvE, to make them truly Heavy. As it stands, there's no reason to use either in PvE, when rockets and Swords do far more damage, and with more forgiving ammo.Also, getting rid of all aim-assist should be a thing for Heavies. Half the time it just gets you killed anyway...
Yes, the former specials should have more ammo in PVE to offset the lack of comparative overall damage vs. Clusterbombs and swords.
In PVP however, you would have to go with slug rounds on shotguns, making them two shot unless you pull a head shot. Or reduce the damage so you need to shoot twice. Bungie has both of these in for the most part, but people don't use them much because of the difficulty in closing.
It just seems to me that you can't have the D1 setup avoid people leaning heavily on the specials over the primaries in PVP (and lets face it, this is primarily a PVP driven issue).
Complete thread:
- Destiny 2 - Development Update 1/11/18 -
CyberKN,
2018-01-11, 16:38
- *slow clap* Well done Bungie. - MacAddictXIV, 2018-01-11, 16:53
- Sounds great. - cheapLEY, 2018-01-11, 16:53
- All sounds promising, and I love the communication. Thanks! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-01-11, 17:33
- +1 - Blackt1g3r, 2018-01-12, 08:08
- 6v6 Private Matches was all I wanted to hear -
Robot Chickens,
2018-01-11, 18:02
- +6 - Oholiab, 2018-01-11, 18:31
- 6v6 Private Matches was all I wanted to hear -
DEEP_NNN,
2018-01-11, 20:38
- 6v6 Private Matches was all I wanted to hear - Robot Chickens, 2018-01-12, 00:33
- Destiny 2 - Development Update 1/11/18 -
FyreWulff,
2018-01-11, 18:02
- Destiny 2 - Development Update 1/11/18 - Harmanimus, 2018-01-11, 18:15
- Destiny 2 - Development Update 1/11/18 -
squidnh3,
2018-01-11, 18:24
- Destiny 2 - Development Update 1/11/18 - FyreWulff, 2018-01-11, 19:00
- Hopefully, emblem with rank(s) can just be unequipped? -
Pyromancy,
2018-01-11, 18:56
- Nope, our poor performances must live in perpetuity - Robot Chickens, 2018-01-11, 19:00
- Visible Ranks -1. :( -
dogcow,
2018-01-12, 07:45
- I don't get the hate. -
slycrel,
2018-01-12, 08:03
- It’s not about feeling good/bad about it -
Robot Chickens,
2018-01-12, 08:38
- It’s not about feeling good/bad about it - dogcow, 2018-01-12, 08:56
- It’s not about feeling good/bad about it -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-01-12, 09:00
- It’s not about feeling good/bad about it - dogcow, 2018-01-12, 09:02
- It’s not about feeling good/bad about it -
Robot Chickens,
2018-01-12, 09:15
- Thank Bungie public voice chat is opt-in these days -
Blackt1g3r,
2018-01-12, 09:20
- Thanks for the flashbacks - stabbim, 2018-01-12, 11:59
- Thank Bungie public voice chat is opt-in these days -
Blackt1g3r,
2018-01-12, 09:20
- It’s not about feeling good/bad about it -
stabbim,
2018-01-12, 11:58
- It’s not about feeling good/bad about it -
MacAddictXIV,
2018-01-12, 12:06
- It’s not about feeling good/bad about it -
Claude Errera,
2018-01-12, 12:09
- It’s not about feeling good/bad about it -
MacAddictXIV,
2018-01-12, 12:12
- Don't give up on your dreams. Keep sleeping. - Claude Errera, 2018-01-12, 12:14
- It's rational... - squidnh3, 2018-01-12, 12:19
- It’s not about feeling good/bad about it -
MacAddictXIV,
2018-01-12, 12:12
- It’s not about feeling good/bad about it - stabbim, 2018-01-12, 12:12
- It’s not about feeling good/bad about it -
Claude Errera,
2018-01-12, 12:09
- It’s not about feeling good/bad about it -
MacAddictXIV,
2018-01-12, 12:06
- Yep. :( -
Kermit,
2018-01-12, 10:00
- Yep. :( -
Korny,
2018-01-12, 10:07
- Yep. :( -
cheapLEY,
2018-01-12, 11:54
- Yep. :( -
stabbim,
2018-01-12, 12:01
- Yep. :( - MacAddictXIV, 2018-01-12, 12:07
- Yep. :( -
Robot Chickens,
2018-01-12, 12:49
- Yep. :( - cheapLEY, 2018-01-12, 14:37
- When 60 bucks and thumbs gets you into the Olympics. -
Harmanimus,
2018-01-12, 14:06
- When 60 bucks and thumbs gets you into the Olympics. -
cheapLEY,
2018-01-12, 14:37
- When 60 bucks and thumbs gets you into the Olympics. -
Harmanimus,
2018-01-12, 14:47
- When 60 bucks and thumbs gets you into the Olympics. -
cheapLEY,
2018-01-12, 16:16
- When 60 bucks and thumbs gets you into the Olympics. -
Harmanimus,
2018-01-12, 18:47
- When 60 bucks and thumbs gets you into the Olympics. -
Vortech,
2018-01-15, 11:05
- When 60 bucks and thumbs gets you into the Olympics. - stabbim, 2018-01-15, 13:45
- When 60 bucks and thumbs gets you into the Olympics. -
Vortech,
2018-01-15, 11:05
- When 60 bucks and thumbs gets you into the Olympics. -
Harmanimus,
2018-01-12, 18:47
- When 60 bucks and thumbs gets you into the Olympics. -
cheapLEY,
2018-01-12, 16:16
- When 60 bucks and thumbs gets you into the Olympics. -
Harmanimus,
2018-01-12, 14:47
- When 60 bucks and thumbs gets you into the Olympics. -
cheapLEY,
2018-01-12, 14:37
- Yep. :( -
stabbim,
2018-01-12, 12:01
- Yep. :( -
cheapLEY,
2018-01-12, 11:54
- Yep. :( -
Korny,
2018-01-12, 10:07
- It’s not about feeling good/bad about it -
Robot Chickens,
2018-01-12, 08:38
- Visible Ranks -1. :( -
Cody Miller,
2018-01-12, 08:20
- Visible Ranks -1. :( -
Claude Errera,
2018-01-12, 08:46
- Visible Ranks -1. :( - Harmanimus, 2018-01-12, 14:07
- Visible Ranks -1. :( -
Cody Miller,
2018-01-12, 18:01
- you're assuming the same game types will be in both? - Vortech, 2018-01-15, 11:08
- Visible Ranks -1. :( -
Claude Errera,
2018-01-12, 08:46
- I don't get the hate. -
slycrel,
2018-01-12, 08:03
- Encouraged -
Harmanimus,
2018-01-11, 18:12
- Also hoping the Ability "pass" includes recharge times. - Harmanimus, 2018-01-11, 18:33
- Destiny 2 - Development Update 1/11/18 - Kahzgul, 2018-01-11, 20:19
- still not enough vault space -
unoudid,
2018-01-11, 20:34
- still not enough vault space -
Korny,
2018-01-11, 23:26
- still not enough vault space -
unoudid,
2018-01-12, 03:11
- That assumes old mods won’t get converted to 2.0. -
Harmanimus,
2018-01-12, 07:27
- Guessing based on past history. -
unoudid,
2018-01-12, 10:56
- like with shot package -
Harmanimus,
2018-01-12, 13:59
- R.I.P. - CyberKN, 2018-01-12, 14:01
- like with shot package -
Harmanimus,
2018-01-12, 13:59
- Guessing based on past history. -
unoudid,
2018-01-12, 10:56
- That assumes old mods won’t get converted to 2.0. -
Harmanimus,
2018-01-12, 07:27
- still not enough vault space -
unoudid,
2018-01-12, 03:11
- still not enough vault space - peaksutah, 2018-01-12, 13:14
- still not enough vault space -
Korny,
2018-01-11, 23:26
- Not impressed -
Avateur,
2018-01-11, 21:00
- Let's give them a year and see. -
Funkmon,
2018-01-12, 06:37
- Let's give them a year and see. -
Cody Miller,
2018-01-12, 18:13
- You're missing variables - Earendil, 2018-01-14, 20:08
- Let's give them a year and see. -
Cody Miller,
2018-01-12, 18:13
- +1 - peaksutah, 2018-01-12, 15:43
- Let's give them a year and see. -
Funkmon,
2018-01-12, 06:37
- TL;DR - Sleep? What's that! - INSANEdrive, 2018-01-11, 21:56
- Great Stuff! - breitzen, 2018-01-12, 06:40
- 4 months for some changes, let that sink in. -
DEEP_NNN,
2018-01-12, 06:46
- 4 months for some changes, let that sink in. -
MacAddictXIV,
2018-01-12, 06:49
- 4 months for some changes, let that sink in. -
DEEP_NNN,
2018-01-12, 07:22
- 4 months for some changes, let that sink in. - MacAddictXIV, 2018-01-12, 07:23
- 4 months for some changes, let that sink in. -
Harmanimus,
2018-01-12, 07:30
- 4 months for some changes, let that sink in. - DEEP_NNN, 2018-01-12, 07:41
- 4 months for some changes, let that sink in. - Robot Chickens, 2018-01-12, 08:56
- 4 months for some changes, let that sink in. -
DEEP_NNN,
2018-01-12, 07:22
- 4 months for some changes, let that sink in. -
MacAddictXIV,
2018-01-12, 06:49
- Weapon slot improvements -
Cody Miller,
2018-01-12, 07:45
- Weapon slot improvements - MacAddictXIV, 2018-01-12, 07:47
- Weapon slot improvements -
stabbim,
2018-01-12, 08:24
- Weapon slot improvements - MacAddictXIV, 2018-01-12, 08:27
- Weapon slot improvements -
Durandal,
2018-01-12, 10:22
- Weapon slot improvements -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-01-12, 10:43
- Weapon slot improvements - MacAddictXIV, 2018-01-12, 10:55
- Weapon slot improvements - Cody Miller, 2018-01-12, 18:06
- Weapon slot improvements -
Cody Miller,
2018-01-12, 18:07
- how do you make them like that? -
Durandal,
2018-01-15, 12:10
- how do you make them like that? -
Korny,
2018-01-15, 12:37
- how do you make them like that? - Durandal, 2018-01-15, 15:09
- how do you make them like that? -
Korny,
2018-01-15, 12:37
- how do you make them like that? -
Durandal,
2018-01-15, 12:10
- Weapon slot improvements -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-01-12, 10:43
- I really, really hope so. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-01-12, 08:56
- I really, really hope so. -
MacAddictXIV,
2018-01-12, 08:59
- I really, really hope so. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-01-12, 10:06
- Gotta disagree with you. -
Claude Errera,
2018-01-12, 12:07
- Gotta disagree with you. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-01-12, 12:18
- Dunno about that -
ZackDark,
2018-01-12, 13:20
- Dunno about that - CruelLEGACEY, 2018-01-12, 14:03
- Dunno about that -
ZackDark,
2018-01-12, 13:20
- Gotta disagree with you. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-01-12, 12:18
- I really, really hope so. -
Blackt1g3r,
2018-01-12, 12:19
- Alternate consideration: - Harmanimus, 2018-01-12, 14:29
- I really, really hope so. -
Harmanimus,
2018-01-12, 14:44
- I really, really hope so. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-01-12, 16:28
- I really, really hope so. - Harmanimus, 2018-01-12, 19:16
- I really, really hope so. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-01-12, 16:28
- Gotta disagree with you. -
Claude Errera,
2018-01-12, 12:07
- I really, really hope so. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-01-12, 10:06
- I really, really hope so. -
MacAddictXIV,
2018-01-12, 08:59
- I guess this is all good... -
Kermit,
2018-01-12, 09:56
- Opportunity Cost - Beorn, 2018-01-12, 11:51
- I guess this is all good... -
MacGyver10,
2018-01-12, 14:39
- I guess this is all good... - cheapLEY, 2018-01-12, 16:18
- Strike scoring, lul - ProbablyLast, 2018-01-12, 17:07
- Chris Barrett tweet on weapons - cheapLEY, 2018-01-14, 19:59