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Apr 25th TWID - "[We] Have The Powerrrr!!!!" (Destiny)

by INSANEdrive, ಥ_ಥ | f(ಠ‿↼)z | ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, Thursday, April 25, 2024, 16:45 (10 days ago)

Bungie Link. - DBO Link.

(Alt Title. - "Looks like meat's back on the menu, boys!")

Ok. So... two things before I do this thing-no... three things. Yea, three things.

1. I! FUCKING! KNEW IT*! 599/600 LYFE BAY-BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
*in my heart of hearts.

2. cheapLEY! HOLY SHIT! IT'S BEAUTIFUL!

3. WHY DID IT TAKE BUNGIE 10 YEARS (there 'bouts) TO DO WHAT WE'VE** BEEN BITCH'N ABOUT FOR THEM TO FREEK'N DO FOR 10 Flipp'n YEARS! For FUCKS SAKE! Was it REALLY that hard to do this?!

**Do I mean us, here at DBO, or the Destiny Community at large? What else can I say but, sure. lol

...ok, I got that out... let's do this thing, for old times sake.

Where No One Has Gone Before

Showing off videos of marketing fluff, including snippets of bad guys being bad.

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Hmmm. What could this be I wonder.

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The above, but with...uh... legs I guess. Blah blah blah... let's get to the fun part...

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How Power Works in The Final Shape
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Fireteam Power was announced at the Destiny 2 Showcase 2023, but we’ve got a lot more coming with The Final Shape when it comes to improving how Power works in Destiny 2.

We’ve revisited our Power systems and overhauled our UI to make Power more intuitive and approachable than ever before. You’ll find a whole bunch of changes detailed below, all made with the following goals in mind:

  • Power offers a meaningful progression that rewards players with a real sense of getting stronger.
  • Destiny 2 is a game you can always play with your friends, regardless of your Power level.
  • Lower the barrier to entry for Destiny 2’s story content.
  • Power should be intuitive and understandable, both for experienced and new players alike.

Fireteam Power

In The Final Shape, playing with friends will be easier than ever, no matter if you play every day, haven’t played in years, or are trying Destiny 2 for the first time.

The player with the highest Power level in the fireteam will become the Power Leader, and all other players in the fireteam will be brought up to five Power below the Power Leader (if their Power isn’t already higher). Fireteam Power only affects activity difficulty, and your unadjusted Power level will still determine the Power of your rewards.

Being a Power Leader will also give you a boost to any commendations earned at the end of the activity.

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Your Power level will now be displayed next to the Activity Power Cap, right by the launch button, so you can easily determine how difficult the activity will feel.

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When your Power is increased by Fireteam Power, your adjusted Power will take its place. Here, soyuz_bng is the Power Leader, and is boosting rook_bng to 1995 Power (five below soyuz_bng's Power of 2000).

With Fireteam Power, friends should always be able to play together, regardless of Power level.

Removing Power Limits from Legacy Gear

One problem we encountered when designing Fireteam Power was Power limits found on older gear items. You might have noticed as you read about Fireteam Power that the Adjusted Power shared by the Power Leader would sidestep the caps on old Power limited items, making it possible to ignore them. After thoroughly considering the problem space, we came to the decision to remove Power limits from all items starting in The Final Shape.

Always being able to play with your friends was a huge goal for us. As we close out the Light and Darkness saga, we want to rally all Guardians (active, returning, and new) to help fight the Witness, and there is no better way to play Destiny than with your fireteam. As we pursued this goal, it became apparent that Power limits were fundamentally incompatible with Fireteam Power.

We understand that many old Power limited items have been dismantled by this point, and we regret that we have no recovery mechanism for these. Going forward, we intend to reintroduce sources for most or all of these, updated to modern Destiny sandbox standards with added properties such as Origin Traits and buildcrafting perks (as we have started to do with the BRAVE arsenal in Destiny 2: Into the Light).

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INSANEdrive Note: SUNSETTING IS DEAD! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

...I now return you to the TWAB, er... TWID...
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Power Bands

We're improving Power Bands to further lower the barrier to entry. In The Final Shape, the Soft Cap will only require 40 Power to reach (down from the usual 150).

This change should allow New Lights enough time to get familiar with the core of Destiny's Gear Power system before stepping into the broader game without holding them back. You can also easily achieve the Soft Cap by playing through either difficulty of The Final Shape campaign. If you complete the campaign on Legendary difficulty, you'll be rewarded with an entire gear set at 1960 Power (+20 into the Powerful band), giving you a great head start towards being raid-ready for Contest mode (1965 Power)!

The resulting Power Bands in The Final Shape will be:

  • Power Floor: 1900
  • Soft Cap: 1940
  • Powerful Cap: 1990
  • Hard Cap/Pinnacle Cap: 2000

Activity Power

Beginning with The Final Shape, the Power level of activities will become much easier to understand. We're also making it so players can enjoy Destiny 2's story and free-roam content at any level.

Activities will be divided into two categories: Power Disabled and Power Enabled.

Power Disabled activities play the same for everyone, no matter their Power level. Anyone at any level can jump right in and experience them to the fullest. As such, increasing your Power won't change the difficulty you experience, and you can't over-level the enemies in these activities. Power Disabled activities include campaigns (both Normal and Legendary difficulties), Seasonal story missions, free-roam destinations, Crucible, and some legacy content.

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Power Enabled activities, by comparison, are where you grow stronger by improving your Power. These each have an Activity Power Cap, or a Power level at which you will have achieved maximum effectiveness. We've improved our UI to show you exactly what these Activity Power Caps are and if you've achieved them. Enemies will have a set feel for how tough they are even at the cap, but you will notice yourself getting stronger as your Power level grows. Power Enabled activities include Vanguard playlists, Nightfalls, Seasonal activities, Exotic Mission Rotators, Trials of Osiris, raids, and dungeons.

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Every Power Enabled activity falls into one of five difficulty tiers or one unique mode:

Difficulty Tier - Activity Power Cap - How to Master - [Example Activities]

Standard - 1945 - Focus on growing your Power level to the Powerful and Pinnacle caps. [Vanguard Ops, Seasonal activities, Exotic missions, raids, and dungeons.]

Advanced (Previously Hero) - 1995 - Optimize your individual buildcrafting for Nightfall-style gameplay, while still matchmaking with other players. [Nightfalls.]

Expert(Previously Legend) - 2005 - Optimize your fireteam composition and rely on your ability to work together as a team. [Nightfalls, Lost Sectors, Seasonal activities, Exotic missions.]

Master - 2010 - Optimize your execution, leveraging the skills built by engaging with other tiers of difficulty. [Nightfalls, Lost Sectors, raids, and dungeons.]

Grandmaster - 2020 - Tie it all together and demonstrate true mastery to overcome pinnacle challenges in Destiny 2. [Nightfalls.]

Contest Mode - 1965 - A unique, limited-time challenge where each raider will have to demonstrate their gameplay. In this mode, Fireteam Power will not apply. [Raid during the first 48 hours.]

It's worth calling out that gameplay tuning in our existing high-difficulty content remains unchanged with these updates, and we are continuing to experiment with new activities that evolve in difficulty throughout the run (such as in Deep Dives, Coil, and Onslaught). We look forward to continuing to explore ways to make difficult activities engaging and rewarding to conquer, while making your ongoing Power climb feel meaningful and important.

Artifact Bonus Power

The way you earn Bonus Power from the Seasonal Artifact is staying the same at its core, but we've rebalanced it to better offer a meaningful and rewarding progression given other upcoming changes.

With the additional time offered by each Episode, we've increased the number of weeks with Seasonal Challenges and they will also be receiving a buff to their XP rewards. Given this, we needed to make some adjustments to the XP requirements for Artifact Bonus Power levels. Our goals for the rebalance were that actively engaged players could attain similar Artifact levels achieved by the end of an Episode and that Artifact Power remains a rewarding pursuit throughout.

Account-Wide Power

Titan, Hunter, Warlock. Most of us play primarily just one, but what if it didn't have to be so hard to walk in a different class's shoes Greaves/Strides/Boots? We're also lowering the barrier to entry to play multiple classes by introducing Account-Wide Power.

Starting in The Final Shape, the gear rewards you earn on any character will drop with a Power level relative to the highest Power character on your account. Level up the Power of your Hunter, and when you switch over to your Titan or Warlock, the gear rewards you earn will be around your Hunter's level. The exact Power of rewards will still depend on the source, but the Power you earn on one character will positively influence rewards you find on your other characters!

Because cross-character Power progression is now intrinsic to the game, Power Boosts are no longer offered for sale. Campaign Skips will still be available for alt characters. These changes aim to make switching between characters and classes easier than ever before, so try something new and put on that Mark/Cloak/Bond for the first time!

Reward Power

Finally, we're making some improvements to the Power of rewards.

For some time now, select activities (such as ritual playlists) have had a chance of dropping a Powerful reward with +1 Power for players between the Soft Cap and the Powerful Cap. In The Final Shape, we're extending this beyond those select activities to just about every reward source in Destiny 2! This change will help players gradually reach the Powerful Cap no matter what activities they choose to play, so you aren't limited to just the weekly available Powerful rewards.

Additionally, we are improving the Power of rewards you purchase from vendors and Collections. All items purchased from vendors will now drop no lower than 3 below your highest possible Power, and items reacquired from Collections will be 5 below (instead of all the way down at the Power Floor).

...then after that, some stuff about the Pantheon and Streamers, the new "No abilities. Weapons only!" PvP mode Hardware (which... is huge, just, now you know) which will be in Labs, "Last Chance to Earn Iron Banner Rewards!" and some cosplay stuff. And Bungie Store stuff.

And, that's it basically.

Yep... I just... no, I'm fine, *sniff* there's just, *sniff*, SOMETHING IN MY EYE. I'm fine, I'm fine.

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Woo!

by squidnh3, Thursday, April 25, 2024, 17:17 (10 days ago) @ INSANEdrive

42 items back on the menu! I can break out my Duke Mk 44s again. Totally worth all that vault management time! Pour one out for the ones sharded along the way.

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Woo!

by INSANEdrive, ಥ_ಥ | f(ಠ‿↼)z | ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, Thursday, April 25, 2024, 17:42 (10 days ago) @ squidnh3

42 items back on the menu! I can break out my Duke Mk 44s again. Totally worth all that vault management time! Pour one out for the ones sharded along the way.

39, but oh, what a 39 it is. Steelfeather Repeater, Bygones, Dust Rock Blues, Breachlight, My OG Trust, MY ol' RELIABLE Basilisk, Anonymous Autumn, and of course let's not forget about 21% Delirium YEAH BOY!!

I'm. So happy right now. Just yelling at my walls with glee.

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Woo!

by cheapLEY @, Thursday, April 25, 2024, 17:44 (10 days ago) @ INSANEdrive

I hate you both.

My beloved Bygones and Trust had long been dismantled.

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Woo.

by INSANEdrive, ಥ_ಥ | f(ಠ‿↼)z | ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, Thursday, April 25, 2024, 17:50 (10 days ago) @ cheapLEY

I hate you both.

My beloved Bygones and Trust had long been dismantled.

lol. Now now, even a stopped clock is right twice a day. There was never a face value guarantee that Bungie would ever ouroboros away sunsetting. Even with this news, annoying as it may be, you're still the wiser one all-in-all. Plus... I imagine that roving bungalow of yours has shit internet, but what do I know. ;P

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Woo!

by kidtsunami @, Atlanta, GA, Friday, April 26, 2024, 07:05 (9 days ago) @ cheapLEY

I hate you both.

My beloved Bygones and Trust had long been dismantled.

I imagine the revamped ones will still be better origin traits and all whenever they start dropping again.

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My "we're back" list

by squidnh3, Friday, April 26, 2024, 07:17 (9 days ago) @ INSANEdrive

All Around Standouts:
Outlaw/Rampage Duke Mk 44. I have 2 of these, one for PvP and one for PvE.
Backup Plan/Rampage Tempered Dynamo (the original Plan C replacement, pairs great with the Duke)

Awesome Sidearms
Outlaw/Rampage (or Vorpal) Breachlight
Rapid Hit/Tap the Trigger Traveler's Judgement 5

Army of One Gambit Utility Masters
Rapid Hit/Explosive Rounds (or Opening Shot) Patron of Lost Causes
Outlaw/Opening Shot Talons of the Eagle

Just Fun and Cool
Trench Barrel/Graverobber Threat Level
Dynamic Sway/Mulligan Hammerhead

DPS All-Stars
Tactical Mag/Rapid Hit/Triple Tap Persuader
Triple Tap/Vorpal Trophy Hunter
Rapid Hit/Firing Line Line in the Sand

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My "we're back" list

by kidtsunami @, Atlanta, GA, Friday, April 26, 2024, 07:29 (9 days ago) @ squidnh3

All Around Standouts:
Outlaw/Rampage Duke Mk 44. I have 2 of these, one for PvP and one for PvE.
Backup Plan/Rampage Tempered Dynamo (the original Plan C replacement, pairs great with the Duke)

Awesome Sidearms
Outlaw/Rampage (or Vorpal) Breachlight
Rapid Hit/Tap the Trigger Traveler's Judgement 5

Army of One Gambit Utility Masters
Rapid Hit/Explosive Rounds (or Opening Shot) Patron of Lost Causes
Outlaw/Opening Shot Talons of the Eagle

Just Fun and Cool
Trench Barrel/Graverobber Threat Level
Dynamic Sway/Mulligan Hammerhead

DPS All-Stars
Tactical Mag/Rapid Hit/Triple Tap Persuader
Triple Tap/Vorpal Trophy Hunter
Rapid Hit/Firing Line Line in the Sand

I've got 15 I held on to but only really excited about my Trust and Trophy Hunter. Is mountaintop coming back?

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My "we're back" list

by squidnh3, Friday, April 26, 2024, 07:50 (9 days ago) @ kidtsunami

I've got 15 I held on to but only really excited about my Trust and Trophy Hunter. Is mountaintop coming back?

It is, but it's been nerfed and has already returned as an Onslaught weapon, so I didn't include it. Maybe I'll dust off my Rangefinder/Rampage roll, it does have over 5000 kills.

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Not god rolls, but a symptom of my rampant sentimentality

by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Monday, April 29, 2024, 15:34 (6 days ago) @ squidnh3

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Not god rolls, but a symptom of my rampant sentimentality

by Cody Miller @, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Monday, April 29, 2024, 20:27 (5 days ago) @ Kermit

I'm sentimental for Outlaw on Xerxes-C

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To this day

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Tuesday, April 30, 2024, 03:18 (5 days ago) @ Cody Miller

I always say "Outlaw" twice

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ugh, I sharded my Duke, and now I feel GRIEF

by kidtsunami @, Atlanta, GA, Tuesday, April 30, 2024, 07:38 (5 days ago) @ Kermit

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Not god rolls, but a symptom of my rampant sentimentality

by stabbim @, Des Moines, IA, USA, Thursday, May 02, 2024, 11:52 (3 days ago) @ Kermit

I stopped playing the last time they undid un-sunsetting. I do kinda wonder what's sitting in my inventory. Although it sounds like my old gear is probably missing a bunch of stats or customization options that were added later.

Edit: I also have sentimentality attached to Midnight Coup.

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