I kindly disagree. I like the changes. (Destiny)
I played for about 2 hours last night and felt like the changes really suited my play style a lot. Here are a few reasons:
1) I love to snipe, everyone who plays with me knows it. The new ammo system makes my ability to be more accurate than my opponent all the more valuable, because I can get more kills per crate than they can. And since there are fewer crates, I can actually deny them opportunities to match me ammo wise.
2) While it was frustrating to run up to a crate to see it still had a minute on it, I also enjoy the challenge of changing tactics and adapting strategy. On those occasions I ran out of special ammo, I had to adapt, find ways to attack with my primary that were effective. Plus, with TTK on primaries being a bit slower than specials, it puts an emphasis on playing as a team, attacking enemies together. I like that.
3) I've been using HMG's for quite some time, so I already have the instinct to avoid the areas of the map with heavy rocket play. I found last night that I was still able to manage my heavy really well, multiple times still having some heavy ammo by the time the next heavy dropped. I also think that getting an extra 5 seconds really helps me get heavy more often because on certain maps, my preferred positioning isn't within 10 seconds of the drop.
I'm not saying the Crucible is perfect and get it that it's frustrating. I think a lot of good points were made, some bad ones as well, but at least for now, I enjoy the changes.
Along with that: Assault Rifles may have gotten back some of their viability. They're still easier to hip fire than other primaries; with less shotgun ammo to go around, mid-to-close range may be more AR friendly post-patch.
Complete thread:
- Update 1.1.2 : The one with Vault space and Raid fixes. -
CougRon,
2015-04-14, 15:16
- RIP Purple Ball! -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-14, 15:17
- The new ball is born! All hail the new ball! -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 15:18
- Hail! -
Beorn,
2015-04-14, 15:20
- The first grainy video hath appeared! Tremble! -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 17:03
- Gah! -
Beorn,
2015-04-14, 17:25
- Gah! -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-14, 17:27
- Parallaxed? -
Beorn,
2015-04-14, 17:31
- Parallaxed? -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 17:33
- Parallaxed? - Beorn, 2015-04-14, 17:38
- Parallaxed? - Funkmon, 2015-04-14, 18:27
- Parallaxed? -
Veegie,
2015-04-14, 19:49
- TIL balls are complicated. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-14, 19:53
- just ones that technical artists make :) -
Veegie,
2015-04-14, 19:53
- just ones that technical artists make :) - Malagate, 2015-04-14, 20:10
- just ones that technical artists make :) -
Veegie,
2015-04-14, 19:53
- You da man - Beorn, 2015-04-15, 00:13
- TIL balls are complicated. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-14, 19:53
- Parallaxed? -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 17:33
- Parallaxed? -
Beorn,
2015-04-14, 17:31
- Gah! -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-14, 17:27
- Gah! -
Beorn,
2015-04-14, 17:25
- The first grainy video hath appeared! Tremble! -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 17:03
- +1 - CougRon, 2015-04-14, 15:22
- As much I like content, I like the little things too. - INSANEdrive, 2015-04-14, 15:28
- Hail! -
Beorn,
2015-04-14, 15:20
- The new ball is born! All hail the new ball! -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 15:18
- Crucible is indeed going full primaries. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 15:27
- Torn Life! -
unoudid,
2015-04-14, 19:50
- Might be the end for my PI :( -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 19:58
- They did decrease the frequency of the killer bug, though -
ZackDark,
2015-04-14, 20:08
- They did decrease the frequency of the killer bug, though -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 20:09
- They did decrease the frequency of the killer bug, though - ZackDark, 2015-04-14, 20:12
- They did decrease the frequency of the killer bug, though -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 20:09
- They did decrease the frequency of the killer bug, though -
ZackDark,
2015-04-14, 20:08
- Might be the end for my PI :( -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 19:58
- Torn Life! -
unoudid,
2015-04-14, 19:50
- Update 1.1.2 : The one with Vault space and Raid fixes. -
INSANEdrive,
2015-04-14, 15:36
- Is Golden Gun range on fix list? -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-04-14, 15:40
- No mention :/ -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 15:44
- No Mythoclast fix either. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-14, 17:28
- Someone on reddit says the Mythoclast was ninja fixed. - iconicbanana, 2015-04-14, 20:37
- No Mythoclast fix either. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-14, 17:28
- Is Golden Gun range on fix list? - DreadPirateWes, 2015-04-14, 18:14
- No mention :/ -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 15:44
- Is Golden Gun range on fix list? -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-04-14, 15:40
- Not mentioned: it is 4.3 GB. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-14, 15:48
- Not mentioned: it is 4.3 GB. -
ProbablyLast,
2015-04-14, 16:02
- Timing may be challenging. -
CougRon,
2015-04-14, 16:12
- new maps included? -
CougRon,
2015-04-14, 16:24
- Reddit's already got a dedicated datamining thread -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 16:26
- Yay, Phobos! -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-14, 16:54
- And Mercury as a selectable location...with social space? -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 17:18
- And Mercury as a selectable location...with social space? - Malagate, 2015-04-14, 18:46
- And Mercury as a selectable location...with social space? -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 17:18
- LOL - stabbim, 2015-04-14, 22:47
- Yay, Phobos! -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-14, 16:54
- Reddit's already got a dedicated datamining thread -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 16:26
- new maps included? -
CougRon,
2015-04-14, 16:24
- Maybe not. I may have to put off late raid. - Funkmon, 2015-04-14, 16:46
- 6.065 Gigs here (PS4) -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-14, 16:59
- Must be the PS4 standby\resume stuff. -
Revenant1988,
2015-04-14, 17:00
- and the updates to the Dust Palace strike - Speedracer513, 2015-04-14, 17:55
- 4.3 GB + Exclusive content = 6.065 GB -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-14, 17:02
- 4.3 GB + Exclusive content = 6.065 GB - TheeChaos, 2015-04-14, 18:32
- What's Master Chief Collection up to now? -
petetheduck,
2015-04-14, 18:49
- It's broken the Bekenstein limit. - iconicbanana, 2015-04-14, 18:52
- 61.6 GB - red robber, 2015-04-14, 19:01
- Must be the PS4 standby\resume stuff. -
Revenant1988,
2015-04-14, 17:00
- Timing may be challenging. -
CougRon,
2015-04-14, 16:12
- Interesting - only 1.92GB on Xbox 360 -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-14, 17:42
- 'dem next generation textures - CougRon, 2015-04-14, 17:43
- That's obnoxious. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-14, 18:31
- That's obnoxious. - iconicbanana, 2015-04-14, 18:32
- Uh, you can, with some hassle, upgrade it - ZackDark, 2015-04-14, 18:38
- That's obnoxious. - General Vagueness, 2015-04-14, 19:01
- That's obnoxious. - red robber, 2015-04-14, 19:04
- Yep, needed more room. IMG - Funkmon, 2015-04-14, 19:10
- That's obnoxious. -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-04-14, 19:49
- That's obnoxious. - iconicbanana, 2015-04-14, 19:52
- That's obnoxious. - Vortech, 2015-04-15, 00:10
- It'll Take a Crowbar - Up North 65, 2015-04-17, 03:03
- Not mentioned: it is 4.3 GB. -
ProbablyLast,
2015-04-14, 16:02
- Update 1.1.2 : The one with Vault space and Raid fixes. - TDSpiral, 2015-04-14, 16:19
- White Nail perk no longer triggers on immune targets -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-14, 16:48
- White Nail perk no longer triggers on immune targets -
CyberKN,
2015-04-14, 16:50
- White Nail perk no longer triggers on immune targets -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-14, 16:56
- White Nail perk no longer triggers on immune targets -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-14, 16:58
- White Nail perk no longer triggers on immune targets - MacAddictXIV, 2015-04-14, 17:00
- White Nail perk no longer triggers on immune targets -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-14, 16:58
- White Nail perk no longer triggers on immune targets -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-04-14, 16:56
- White Nail perk no longer triggers on immune targets - Vortech, 2015-04-15, 00:12
- White Nail perk no longer triggers on immune targets -
CyberKN,
2015-04-14, 16:50
- Quest loot pyramid baubles - petetheduck, 2015-04-14, 16:56
- Fixed bug where Major Thralls had two jaws & two left hands -
dogcow,
2015-04-14, 17:10
- I shall call him Lefty... -
Durandal,
2015-04-14, 17:13
- I shall call him Lefty... -
Beorn,
2015-04-14, 17:28
- Not true... -
ZackDark,
2015-04-14, 18:39
- Unfortnately for you... -
Beorn,
2015-04-14, 18:51
- I call tampering - ZackDark, 2015-04-14, 18:56
- Unfortnately for you... -
Beorn,
2015-04-14, 18:51
- Not true... -
ZackDark,
2015-04-14, 18:39
- I shall call him Lefty... -
Beorn,
2015-04-14, 17:28
- I shall call him Lefty... -
Durandal,
2015-04-14, 17:13
- Exotic Ship -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-14, 17:31
- Exotic Ship -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 17:35
- Exotic Ship - Cody Miller, 2015-04-14, 17:36
- Boomer. Want. -
dogcow,
2015-04-14, 17:38
- Boomer. Want. -
dogcow,
2015-04-14, 17:39
- Boomer. Want. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 17:41
- Boomer. Want. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-14, 17:42
- Boomer. Want. - iconicbanana, 2015-04-14, 17:43
- No. -
Malagate,
2015-04-14, 18:52
- No. -
General Vagueness,
2015-04-14, 19:05
- No. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 19:07
- We've done this before. - Kermit, 2015-04-14, 19:27
- No. - Malagate, 2015-04-14, 19:41
- No. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 19:07
- No. - Cody Miller, 2015-04-14, 19:06
- And usable network code. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-14, 19:15
- So it isn't just me. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 19:17
- It only works in a LAN for me. - Funkmon, 2015-04-14, 19:25
- So it isn't just me. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 19:17
- No. -
General Vagueness,
2015-04-14, 19:05
- Why does it have to be late night? -
Kermit,
2015-04-14, 19:28
- Why does it have to be late night? -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 19:31
- This is a far superior time. - Funkmon, 2015-04-14, 19:44
- Why does it have to be late night? -
Kermit,
2015-04-14, 20:00
- An even superiorer time. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-14, 21:31
- 8-10EST messes with my meal bag. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 22:16
- that's cool. - Kermit, 2015-04-14, 22:28
- 8-10EST messes with my meal bag. - stabbim, 2015-04-14, 22:56
- 8-10EST messes with my meal bag. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 22:16
- Why does it have to be late night? -
Vortech,
2015-04-15, 00:21
- Why does it have to be late night? - Kermit, 2015-04-15, 00:52
- An even superiorer time. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-14, 21:31
- Why does it have to be late night? -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 19:31
- Boomer. Want. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-14, 17:42
- Boomer. Want. - Vortech, 2015-04-15, 00:17
- Boomer. Want. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 17:41
- Boomer. Want. -
dogcow,
2015-04-14, 17:39
- Exotic Ship -
Beorn,
2015-04-14, 17:35
- Exotic Ship -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-14, 17:38
- *Psst* - Braccae tuae hiant. -
INSANEdrive,
2015-04-14, 18:56
- I guess I should semper ubi sub ubi -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-14, 19:08
- Scoobi Doobi Noob Tubi? - red robber, 2015-04-14, 19:11
- Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati -
CyberKN,
2015-04-14, 19:14
- Expecto Patronum! -
DiscipleN2k,
2015-04-14, 19:19
- I peaksae atinlae ootae! - Funkmon, 2015-04-14, 19:31
- Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati - stabbim, 2015-04-14, 22:59
- Expecto Patronum! -
DiscipleN2k,
2015-04-14, 19:19
- I never read Harry Potter... - MacAddictXIV, 2015-04-14, 19:21
- I guess I should semper ubi sub ubi -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-14, 19:08
- *Psst* - Braccae tuae hiant. -
INSANEdrive,
2015-04-14, 18:56
- Exotic Ship -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-14, 17:38
- "Romanes eunt domus" all the way - ZackDark, 2015-04-14, 18:41
- Exotic Ship -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 17:35
- The Crucible changes are just too much. -
Korny,
2015-04-14, 19:43
- The Crucible changes are just too much. - Malagate, 2015-04-14, 20:02
- The Crucible changes are just too much. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-14, 20:10
- The Crucible changes are just too much. - iconicbanana, 2015-04-14, 20:15
- The Crucible changes are just too much. -
Malagate,
2015-04-14, 20:15
- The Crucible changes are just too much. -
bluerunner,
2015-04-14, 20:20
- The Crucible changes are just too much. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 20:23
- The Crucible changes are just too much. -
Kahzgul,
2015-04-14, 22:35
- Claude's gonna have a field day... -
Korny,
2015-04-14, 22:50
- I think they realize it. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 22:54
- I think they realize it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-14, 22:56
- Point Cody - unoudid, 2015-04-14, 23:06
- We probably didn't get a HoW raid because of playtesting. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 23:12
- We probably didn't get a HoW raid because of playtesting. -
Vortech,
2015-04-15, 00:33
- We probably didn't get a HoW raid because of playtesting. - iconicbanana, 2015-04-15, 00:39
- We probably didn't get a HoW raid because of playtesting. -
Vortech,
2015-04-15, 00:33
- I think they realize it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-14, 22:56
- Good thing you're not hyperbolizing or anything. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-14, 23:02
- Good thing you're not hyperbolizing or anything. -
Korny,
2015-04-15, 00:08
- Good thing you're not hyperbolizing or anything. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-15, 00:13
- Good thing you're not hyperbolizing or anything. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-15, 00:14
- Good thing you're not hyperbolizing or anything. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-15, 00:18
- Good thing you're not hyperbolizing or anything. - Ragashingo, 2015-04-15, 00:26
- Good thing you're not hyperbolizing or anything. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-15, 00:18
- Good thing you're not hyperbolizing or anything. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-15, 00:14
- Good thing you're not hyperbolizing or anything. - Avateur, 2015-04-15, 02:09
- Good thing you're not hyperbolizing or anything. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-15, 00:13
- Good thing you're not hyperbolizing or anything. -
Korny,
2015-04-15, 00:08
- I think they realize it. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 22:54
- Claude's gonna have a field day... -
Korny,
2015-04-14, 22:50
- The Crucible changes are just too much. -
Kahzgul,
2015-04-14, 22:35
- The Crucible changes are just too much. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 20:23
- The Crucible changes are just too much. -
bluerunner,
2015-04-14, 20:20
- The Crucible changes are just too much. -
Kermit,
2015-04-14, 21:00
- The Crucible changes are just too much. - iconicbanana, 2015-04-14, 21:03
- The Crucible changes are just too much. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-14, 21:04
- Relevant -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 21:10
- Jeebus. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-14, 23:46
- It's OK. now he'd be out of special ammo. - Vortech, 2015-04-15, 00:37
- Jeebus. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-14, 23:46
- The Crucible changes are just too much. - Kermit, 2015-04-14, 21:19
- Relevant -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 21:10
- The Crucible changes are just too much. - Ragashingo, 2015-04-14, 23:48
- I kindly disagree. I like the changes. -
BeardFade,
2015-04-15, 17:29
- I kindly disagree. I like the changes. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-15, 17:34
- I kindly disagree. I like the changes. - BeardFade, 2015-04-15, 18:01
- I kindly disagree. I like the changes. -
BeardFade,
2015-04-15, 18:00
- Ooooo, so close! -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-15, 18:06
- Ooooo, so close! - BeardFade, 2015-04-15, 18:09
- Ooooo, so close! -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-15, 18:06
- I kindly disagree. I like the changes. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-15, 17:34
- I now have an extra 25 Grimoire score. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-14, 20:14
- Same! just hit 2825 :) -
unoudid,
2015-04-14, 20:35
- Yes, you definitely do. - Funkmon, 2015-04-14, 21:40
- 2850 - Cody Miller, 2015-04-14, 21:59
- Yup. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-14, 20:43
- It may have something to due with Siege, Crota, and Mercury - Funkmon, 2015-04-14, 21:40
- Same! just hit 2825 :) -
unoudid,
2015-04-14, 20:35
- Has anyone checked this out yet? -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-14, 20:30
- The game is now complete. -
Kermit,
2015-04-14, 21:05
- ...and we'll even be on The Reef soon! -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-14, 21:39
- I miss those contests... - ZackDark, 2015-04-14, 22:05
- Has someone been reading Phil Farmer? - scarab, 2015-04-17, 03:46
- ...and we'll even be on The Reef soon! -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-14, 21:39
- I did not expect this at all. - Funkmon, 2015-04-14, 21:54
- time to go to the dance floor tonight... - CougRon, 2015-04-14, 22:55
- The game is now complete. -
Kermit,
2015-04-14, 21:05
- Update 1.1.2 : The one with Vault space and Raid fixes. -
General Vagueness,
2015-04-14, 20:34
- Update 1.1.2 : The one with Vault space and Raid fixes. - General Vagueness, 2015-04-14, 23:45
- Update 1.1.2 : The one with Vault space and Raid fixes. - Morpheus, 2015-04-14, 21:01
- Who else... -
bluerunner,
2015-04-15, 00:06
- Who else... -
Korny,
2015-04-15, 01:37
- Who else... - bluerunner, 2015-04-15, 01:47
- Who else... - Avateur, 2015-04-15, 02:17
- Who else... - Xenos, 2015-04-15, 03:28
- Who else... -
Korny,
2015-04-15, 01:37
- Played a few hours of Crucible with Breitzen - Xenos, 2015-04-15, 02:26
- Living colour -
Stuntmutt,
2015-04-15, 08:51
- This explains so much about your comics - ZackDark, 2015-04-15, 09:21
- Living colour - General Vagueness, 2015-04-15, 16:10
- Living colour -
Xenos,
2015-04-15, 16:31
- That's pretty damn cool - ZackDark, 2015-04-15, 19:24
- Living colour -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-15, 16:35
- Living colour - bluerunner, 2015-04-15, 17:03
- Wish Granted - sort of. -
INSANEdrive,
2015-04-15, 16:49
- Wish Granted - sort of. -
Stuntmutt,
2015-04-15, 18:29
- If you do... - Claude Errera, 2015-04-15, 18:47
- Wow. That's a dramatic example. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-15, 18:58
- Great Scott! - iconicbanana, 2015-04-15, 19:00
- And suddenly it all makes sense. ;) - dogcow, 2015-04-15, 19:07
- Wow. That's a dramatic example. -
Stuntmutt,
2015-04-15, 19:21
- Wow. That's a dramatic example. - Claude Errera, 2015-04-15, 19:24
- Wow. That's a dramatic example. - bluerunner, 2015-04-15, 19:31
- Wish Granted - sort of. -
Stuntmutt,
2015-04-15, 18:29
- One thing they apparently fixed - Xenos, 2015-04-17, 03:15
- RIP Purple Ball! -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-14, 15:17