You just have to pay to get in with motes.

That would suck. I don't want to have to play boring activities (you get no exp for the current raids) just to earn motes for what may be a really fun activity.

As I understand it, you would need to buy in once with Motes, and get to play as long as you kept winning. If you lost, though, you'd have to buy in again.

Although considering the way people complain on here about having useless amounts of motes, I don't imagine this is keeping many dedicated forum members out ;)

I have still kept my The Devil You Know with Spray and Play, Perfect Balance, Third Eye. This is definitely good news!

You think a lot of things. Has there ever been an official source saying each expansion would have a raid? If not, then aren't you just inventing your own made up reasons to be disappointed? That doesn't seem healthy.

Actually, Cody's reaction is one of the most calm, measured responses to this news that I've seen today.

You should really get out more.

Psssh. What I said was true. Besides, there's always been people more loud and irrational than Cody. It's just most of them aren't worth listening to in the least while Cody sometimes is.

You think a lot of things. Has there ever been an official source saying each expansion would have a raid? If not, then aren't you just inventing your own made up reasons to be disappointed? That doesn't seem healthy.

Nope. People are datamining old data and holding Bungie to promises Bungie never even made.

Actually they did. It was in descriptions about the House of Wolves in certain ads. It was advertised as coming with a raid:

(I recall seeing something similar before I got the expansion pass.

A raid in each expansion was hardly an unreasonable expectation.

Exactly, especially since the first expansion had one.

I think Bungie recognizes that expectation else they wouldn't have described their decision to not include it the way they did.

Given that it wasn't an unreasonable expectation, I'm wondering about the future raid, its presumed inclusion in Comet and how that might shake out price-wise.

Would comet be available to players who didn't buy the expansion packs? Could the raid be available separately from other new content to people who have the expansion packs or could there be a discount available to such people.

How is this handled in WoW? I'm just not familiar with the model.

Regarding HoW, despite some disappointment I'm excited about new story content and intrigued by a completely new activity.

I honestly don't think they did. I think the original plan was just to keep doing what TDB did - roll out a whole new set of legendaries with new attack/defense values each time, and leave the old stuff behind. I think the new upgrade system (whatever it turns out to be) is a direct response to community feedback (read: community raging).

Still have my Alphabet Soup and use it regularly. Hoping this upgrade extends to normal legendarys. If not Ill be he only one dumb enough to still rock a 300 ATK weapon.

Guh. Now I need to get that Praedyth's Timepiece.

If this is the raid hand cannon...

HHNNNNRGGG!

Same. I got rid of plenty of them, I was just too attached to TDYK to give it up, and for a while there no other hand cannons would drop for me.

If the stats aren't a lie, datamining suggested there would be a new DYK:
http://destinydb.com/items/2136150589-sojourner-compass

You'll still have to roll better perks, but as far as stats are concerned, it's the same gun.

I never wholly replaced a 300 weapon with a 331 one unless the 331 one handled at least as good. (With one exception; Murmur for my Arc Light/BEWARE. But I don't regret that.)

I was only able to do this because I only have a teeny tiny arsenal in the first place, though.