Completely Flawed Raider *VID*

Our Crota's End Flawless Raider attempt earlier this week ended up being more difficult than we had planned. We reloaded the raid from scratch 28 times, managing to get out of the Abyss a grand total of five of those. Five. Our greatest foe was the stupid drop into The Abyss; it was a relentless enemy, killing us 17 times! (Be sure to do a double-take of the one at 4:40).

Anyway, here are the un-highlights. Enjoy. ;-)

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I missed out on your stream, but thanks for grabbing the highlights. I wouldn't have the heart to sift through all of that...

Those are some great fails; Death 21 in particular had me laughing, out loud!

Maybe you guys should stick to VoG. ;)

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Man. Those holes had it in for you. At least I can see the clear murder from your friend's bubble.

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Man. Those holes had it in for you. At least I can see the clear murder from your friend's bubble.

Tell me about it. The worst was the one where my sister singed onto Xbox Live and the brightness of the notification blew out the entire lower portion of the screen and I couldn't even see the hole until I was halfway down. :-\

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Our Crota's End Flawless Raider attempt earlier this week ended up being more difficult than we had planned. We reloaded the raid from scratch 28 times, managing to get out of the Abyss a grand total of five of those. Five. Our greatest foe was the stupid drop into The Abyss; it was a relentless enemy, killing us 17 times! (Be sure to do a double-take of the one at 4:40).

When you land, stay put. Don't move. The majority of the time, when someone dies, it's because they bounce off someone else and either hit too hard or fly off the map. The game isn't going to land you on top of someone's position, so just don't run around until everybody lands.

Also why on earth are you using a scout rifle on the abyss?! Fatebringer, a sniper, and an HMG makes it ezpz :-p. I'm sure once Cruel gets done with the video and we can add commentary we can add tips.

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I used a badger CCL for a while before I got Timur's Lash. As long as the impact is pretty high it's not too bad. As long as your teammates have up close and personal relatively covered you can focus on trimming down the next incoming wave.

Also, a select few scout rifles (fang of ir yut comes to mind) don't suck nearly as bad as you'd think at close range, firing from the hip.

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The game isn't going to land you on top of someone's position, so just don't run around until everybody lands.

You would think that might be the case, but it's not. The game definitely dropped us on top of each other more than once. See the very first drop; I don't even have control of my character before breitzen lands on my head and sails into the chasm.

Also why on earth are you using a scout rifle on the abyss?! Fatebringer, a sniper, and an HMG makes it ezpz :-p. I'm sure once Cruel gets done with the video and we can add commentary we can add tips.

Do I look like I don't know what I'm doing? Wait, don't answer that.

1) I was actually checking to see how well Gheleon's Demise + Firefly worked down there.
2) Notice that I switched to Fatebringer later on. This should tell you something. ;-)
3) My secondary is Ice Breaker throughout. Greatest shotgun in The Abyss.

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The game isn't going to land you on top of someone's position, so just don't run around until everybody lands.

You would think that might be the case, but it's not. The game definitely dropped us on top of each other more than once. See the very first drop; I don't even have control of my character before breitzen lands on my head and sails into the chasm.

When the PS4 clan ran Crota Flawless there were quite a few times that people had their falls broken by another guardian. I found that if I tried to soften my landing by hitting jump shortly before I hit that I would actually die MORE OFTEN than if I just left my controller alone.

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When the PS4 clan ran Crota Flawless there were quite a few times that people had their falls broken by another guardian. I found that if I tried to soften my landing by hitting jump shortly before I hit that I would actually die MORE OFTEN than if I just left my controller alone.

While editing the video, I was wondering if the speed boost on MIDA Multitool caused us to hit the ground with greater force. Next time I'll see if turning it off for the jump makes a difference.

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I think that makes some sense. I've hardly ever died from the fall before the last week or so and I know the new thing I have in my loadout is MIDA.

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I drop down all the time with MIDA and have never died because of it.

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I drop down all the time with MIDA and have never died because of it.

It could be a combination of factors. For example, if you have your subclass spec'd out for high agility and recovery, but low armor, you might be too weak and too fast to survive the fall. Add Mida on top of that and who knows.

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I do it with my bladedancer that is speced out on agility and recovery and has low armor. Don't think that's what is causing it. I solo the abyss every week with that setup and have never died when dropping in.

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Took MIDA with +2 and sword breaker with +2, max agility low recovery and armor hunter and didn't die on the way down. I don't know abut when you hit the bottom but my theory is you a traveling down a tube, and either the side walls are kill barriers, I know if i slide into the hole and my momentum carries me far forward I usually die, or they act like bumpers and by hitting them it speeds you up. Chickens and I had a run last week where we both randomly died seconds after jumping down and we couldn't find an explanation. Also if you look up from the bottom sometimes it looks like people are going to land way far off but then they slam into you and shoot you off into the boonies so maybe when you hit the "Darkness Zone" it readjusts your position to be above the plate?

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When you hit the darkness zone it definitely recalibrates you -- I know it puts your view as straight forward instead of up or down. I suspect it also attempts to put you at a "height" that will almost, but not quite, kill you.

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It warps you when you get your aim reset. If you drop before the others you can see their gamer label fall and then suddenly snap above you.

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Yeah I don't think I ev mentioned it but I was trying to be a cushion for a while there by moving to the center of the landing pad if I was first down. I never decided if it helped or not.

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Also why on earth are you using a scout rifle on the abyss?! Fatebringer, a sniper, and an HMG makes it ezpz :-p. I'm sure once Cruel gets done with the video and we can add commentary we can add tips.

Do I look like I don't know what I'm doing? Wait, don't answer that.

1) I was actually checking to see how well Gheleon's Demise + Firefly worked down there.
2) Notice that I switched to Fatebringer later on. This should tell you something. ;-)
3) My secondary is Ice Breaker throughout. Greatest shotgun in The Abyss.

I actually ran the Abyss with Gheleon's Demise (with Firefly) during our last normal run. I actually liked it quite a bit. The rest of our fireteam was nailing everything at close range, so I was able to focus on the enemies further back than usual. Fatebringer is a far better choice in most cases, but with the right fireteam a scout rifle can actually be very useful.

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Also why on earth are you using a scout rifle on the abyss?! Fatebringer, a sniper, and an HMG makes it ezpz :-p. I'm sure once Cruel gets done with the video and we can add commentary we can add tips.

Do I look like I don't know what I'm doing? Wait, don't answer that.

1) I was actually checking to see how well Gheleon's Demise + Firefly worked down there.
2) Notice that I switched to Fatebringer later on. This should tell you something. ;-)
3) My secondary is Ice Breaker throughout. Greatest shotgun in The Abyss.

I actually ran the Abyss with Gheleon's Demise (with Firefly) during our last normal run. I actually liked it quite a bit. The rest of our fireteam was nailing everything at close range, so I was able to focus on the enemies further back than usual. Fatebringer is a far better choice in most cases, but with the right fireteam a scout rifle can actually be very useful.

I actually noticed that you had that when last we played. I have one with a great roll and I STILL can't get it to kill stuff. Don't know how you did it.

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I actually ran the Abyss with Gheleon's Demise (with Firefly) during our last normal run. I actually liked it quite a bit. The rest of our fireteam was nailing everything at close range, so I was able to focus on the enemies further back than usual. Fatebringer is a far better choice in most cases, but with the right fireteam a scout rifle can actually be very useful.

I actually noticed that you had that when last we played. I have one with a great roll and I STILL can't get it to kill stuff. Don't know how you did it.

As I said, it wasn't as effective as fatebringer, but it was great for picking off Thrall in the distance. You guys were doing such a good job dealing with everything up close, I just ignored the enemies that were right on top of me and focused on the path ahead or behind us.

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I quite enjoy using my Badger CCL down there. It has explosive rounds, Outlaw, and Grenadier. Since I kill way more thrall with my solar grenades (and block their movement) I'd say my Badger is my secondary, and my grenade is my primary :)

Plus I hate having to reload pistols...

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Really guys, next time I'll just solo the light maze for you while you chill out in the circle away from the holes. It's safer for everyone :) Oh, and someone needs to report Crota to OSHA for safety violations due to insufficient lighting, no marking or guard rails near pits and no handicap accessibility.

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Also why on earth are you using a scout rifle on the abyss?! Fatebringer, a sniper, and an HMG makes it ezpz :-p. I'm sure once Cruel gets done with the video and we can add commentary we can add tips.

Horse shit. I can fire from the hip at head level and straight destroy 5-8 Thrall in a couple shots. Truly the definition of EZPZ, no?

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Also why on earth are you using a scout rifle on the abyss?! Fatebringer, a sniper, and an HMG makes it ezpz :-p. I'm sure once Cruel gets done with the video and we can add commentary we can add tips.

Horse shit. I can fire from the hip at head level and straight destroy 5-8 Thrall in a couple shots. Truly the definition of EZPZ, no?

I find it a lot easier to headshot at those ranges with fatebringer vs a firefly scout rifle. If you can do it, than it's a great choice.

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This is hilarious :)

I say that as someone who feels your collective pain. Flawless Raider can be a brutal thing to accomplish... but that only makes it that much sweeter when you pull it off :)

Good luck on the next run!

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My favorite part of the attempt was trying not to be distracted by Funkmon's hilariously glitchy character animation.

Sort of reminds me of those old electric football games :p

-Disciple

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Watched this part of the run live on Twitch. What I would not have given for voice output.

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