It's been like this for years, dude. I live it all the time. (Fireteam Builder Events)
I know you were joking, but have we really gotten to the point in society where a male adult cannot express affection for spending time with another person's children without it having a connotation of pedophilia?
Yes.
I experience it frequently due to my job.
I can tell you it is the worst feeling of discrimination I've ever felt. As a man, it deeply saddens me to a degree that I just cannot explain in words.
At my job we provide tech services to school districts in the area. Sometimes to provide those services, I have to make house calls to classrooms.
Security is a huge concern these days due to 'stranger-dangers' and 'active shooters' so I usually know what I'm in store for.Make sure my uniform is easily identifiable, ID badge displayed in clear view, no strange packages other than my tools, etc. But even when I prepare, it still doesn't soften the encounters much.
God forbid a student engage me in casual conversation.
Sometimes its one of the worst things that can happen.
"Hey who are you?" (They're just being curious. They usually smile or wave)
Then I have to decide if it is better to answer them or just ignore them and keep going. I've had occasions where I've said "I'm the computer guy, and I'm here to fix Mrs.____'s computer so you guys can do homework and play games" and the student gets chastised by the teacher for talking to me (maybe rightly so as a general "don't talk to strangers rule, but I'm wearing 3 different goddamn badges that express what I'm here for fuckssake) or *I* get shoo'd by the teacher.
Or I'm just walking to my destination, and I can feel the eyes of the other adults burning a hole in me, sizing me up, watching my every move. Trying to figure out what to do.
It sucks.
Years ago I had a kid run into me in a crowded hallway once- He was maybe a 2nd grader. He fell and landed hard. He cried. My first instinct, to kneel down, see if he's ok, help him up.
Wrong call.
Teacher spazes, runs over, boxes me out like I'm doing something wrong, "THANKS I'LL TAKE IT FROM HERE PLEASE BE CAREFUL WHERE YOU'RE WALKING"
I felt like shit.
I know why she reacted why she did.
I understand it even.
Doesn't make it sting any less, even if I know and they know what my intentions are.
And I think about that stuff. What if it happened again? What if it were more serious? What if a kid got really hurt and got knocked out, or was bleeding, and I'm the nearest adult?
The politically correct answer is: Find another person of proper authority and let them figure it out. Just report it and move on. Or just keep walking.
Fuck that.
I'm a person of action. I'd want the same response if it were me, or my kid.
But I'm a male.
And because of that, I have to be 200% on guard, because once that kind of accusation is out there and directed at me, there is no going back, even if you've done absolutely nothing wrong.
So if I'm ever out in public and some kid gets hurt, I have to choose to do nothing. I have to choose to be selfish, and protect myself.
It's not a world I'm happy about living in.
If I'm sitting down working on a station, and a student engages me in conversation, wants to know why I'm pulling things out of a computer, or what that part does, or anything like that, I have to force myself to ignore them.
I've been told to ignore them.
That's not how it was when I was a kid, when I could ask a visitor about their job and maybe learn something I had questions about, you know, being inquisitive?
For a few years I had a motorcycle, and when I'd have a site visit, I'd take it out. You know what kids like a lot? Motorcycles. I might as well have had a neon sign over my head that said "free candy" when I carried my helmet it. Every kid wants to ask you about it.
IT got to a point where I wouldn't go to classrooms on days I took my bike, just so I wouldn't invite the conversation.
Just ignore them and say nothing. Being friendly could be misconstrued as much, much worse.
This world.....BARF.
Even the phrasing was pretty natural. When kids have fun, they generally call it playing. To >say "I enjoy playing with kids" shouldn't be automatically affiliated with deviant behavior.
At the same time, I understand that adult males are the chief perpetrators of the type of crime connoted. Given that, I understand why the stereotype exists for males, but it seems like we ought to have better ways to react to this without going down that road. I read North's post and took it for what it meant. Perhaps I'm naive.
I hope this doesn't come across as too knee-jerk, but it is something that has bothered me >for a while about our culture's language and how innuendo limits the ability of cross >generational friendship.
We live in a politically correct society. The cost of tip-toeing around every subject for fear of offending someone is far too high for what it is supposedly worth.
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Oholiab,
2015-03-25, 02:32
- Taking Lil' Oholiab through the Vault: 360 Raid -
Up North 65,
2015-03-25, 12:20
- ಠ_ಠ -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 12:40
- ಠ_ಠ - Dagoonite, 2015-03-25, 12:56
- This saddens me -
Robot Chickens,
2015-03-25, 14:20
- This makes me happy. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 14:25
- This makes me happy. -
Robot Chickens,
2015-03-25, 14:47
- Now I'm bummed out. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-25, 14:54
- This makes me happy. -
Robot Chickens,
2015-03-25, 14:47
- It's been like this for years, dude. I live it all the time. -
Revenant1988,
2015-03-25, 15:05
- Have a bud that works at a k-12. Similar story. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-25, 15:10
- It's been like this for years, dude. I live it all the time. - JDQuackers, 2015-03-25, 15:12
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bluerunner,
2015-03-25, 15:54
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dogcow,
2015-03-25, 17:43
- Not just that... -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-25, 18:44
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Kermit,
2015-03-26, 02:19
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General Vagueness,
2015-03-26, 04:38
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Kermit,
2015-03-26, 12:23
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General Vagueness,
2015-03-26, 17:03
- Not just that... - Kermit, 2015-03-26, 17:14
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General Vagueness,
2015-03-26, 17:03
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Kermit,
2015-03-26, 12:23
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General Vagueness,
2015-03-26, 04:38
- Not just that... -
Kermit,
2015-03-26, 02:19
- Not just that... -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-25, 18:44
- Not just that... -
dogcow,
2015-03-25, 17:43
- I'm sorry to hear this. That sucks. - Robot Chickens, 2015-03-25, 16:12
- It's been like this for years, dude. I live it all the time. -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-25, 16:34
- Motorcycle helmets and you - Funkmon, 2015-03-26, 01:28
- This saddens me - Dagoonite, 2015-03-25, 22:51
- Haven't had bad experiences yet. - Funkmon, 2015-03-26, 01:33
- This saddens me -
Ibeechu,
2015-03-26, 03:40
- This saddens me - bluerunner, 2015-03-26, 07:47
- If it makes y'all feel better - Vortech, 2015-03-26, 17:04
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iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 14:25
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iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 12:40
- Taking Lil' Oholiab through the Vault: 360 Raid - Monochron, 2015-03-25, 12:27
- I think I'm down for the latter time - Robot Chickens, 2015-03-25, 14:21
- Taking Lil' Oholiab through the Vault: 360 Raid -
bluerunner,
2015-03-25, 15:04
- Taking Lil' Oholiab through the Vault: 360 Raid - Oholiab, 2015-03-25, 17:47
- Lost in translation -
Up North 65,
2015-03-25, 17:08
- Lost in translation - Oholiab, 2015-03-25, 17:45
- crota is less coordination? -
Vortech,
2015-03-26, 17:07
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- Taking Lil' Oholiab through the Vault: 360 Raid -
Up North 65,
2015-03-25, 12:20