Xenos said something very important about scope in one of his posts. To paraphrase, given the amount of content in this game, some extra pieces might not matter very much in the grand scheme of things. That's one thing you can't expect Bungie to say. Hey, yeah, we're giving Sony fans some goodies, but don't worry, Xboxers, it ain't all that, and you'll get it, too, down the line.

Perhaps, but equally, if they can't say it, we can't assume that, right?
It could be substantial, it could not be.

Also, what is one person's trinket is another person's precious.

I may have been overwrought in my defensiveness yesterday and for that I apologize. I came expecting dissection of the IGN videos, I got butthurt. Lots of butthurt. There may be some subconscious thing going on, too. Deep in our hearts, some of us old timers may derive some secret pleasure from finally enjoying a Bungie game again without the Microsoft taint. That marriage always seemed to me to be one of convenience instead of love. I don't know. I'm grateful for the Xbox and the friendship it's brought me. And Bungie fans who came in through Halo certainly have their own complicated feelings about all this, but in the end, the play's the thing, as the man said. We're going to play, and I hope everyone has fun, and this ill will melts away.

Indeed.

Bungie Day 2014 will go down in history for different reasons than the others but that's ok. I think maybe yesterday's uproar needed to happen, and I'm glad it did, but it should also be over now, at least the everyone get angry at once part. As you say, we have a great game to look forward to and I hope we can all do so as friends despite yesterday's dust up.

With boldness to the stars! :)

Good post, Kermit. Thanks for that.

- CC

After thinking it over last night and reading the same reactions on other forums, I think the reactions were a little deeper than just over extra goodies. I think there's an underlying sense of abandonment amongst many fans that are on xboxes. The lack of attention towards them is taken as an insult, even if it isn't meant to be that way.

Imagine a best friend who starts hanging out with a new crowd in another town down the road. It's cool that your friend is making new friends, and eventually you'll get to meet some of them, so at first you're excited. Then your friend starts spending more and more time over there while just giving you the occasional phone call. Then he throws them a party but doesn't invite you. You could have gone on your own, but you didn't have gas money. Then he throws another party, but you are only allowed to attend for a few hours. Would you feel a little abandoned by your friend?

You could move to the other town so you could hang out more and do all the other cool stuff your friend and his new friends are doing, but that's going to be expensive and you'll probably have to say goodbye to other friends, like your old mutual friend Master Chief, unless you want to buy a house in both towns. I could see that predicament stressing out a lot of people, and causing them to lash out at their old friend, even if he never intended to upset them.

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My observerservational perspective to what I saw in that thread yesterday:

You have a PS4. You played the Alpha. You weren't left out on anything. You still were so mad at people who are feeling left out (rationally or irrationally feeling that way). It's short sighted. Of course you won't mind a short Xbox Beta. You got an Alpha and will get a longer PS4 Beta. You're fully entitled to be defensive, disappointed, etc. at the threads yesterday. They're also allowed to be upset, butthurt, whatever. For some reason, we're back to that thing where it's only okay for the "positive" people to be upset, and then there's this "entitlement" that makes it okay to disregard, belittle, and shame those being "negative" without consequence. Pete's one of the most positive people I've known and seen around DBO and HBO. His contributions are vast and ongoing. He gets upset, boom, screw him? Screw Ragashingo? It wasn't just you, obviously.

I also observe contradictions in logic because you're trying to excuse away why they have no right to be upset. If the Beta will leave more to explore, or if the Beta inversely won't have enough to justify a longer Beta, then there's no real reason (beyond contracts, obviously) that the Beta should not be the same length on both consoles. I would say quit trying to justify it with all of that. The simple fact is, contracts. That's it. That's also probably not Bungie's fault in any way, shape, or form. They have every right not to like it and to express that, and you have every right to express your disappointment at their dislike. It's all still funny, to me, considering you have full access either way. And no, I don't want to discuss how they could, too, if they buy a PS4. You might not know this, but lots of those people posting and complaining yesterday totally have a PS4, including some who didn't outright say it.

Either way, it's up to those people to forgive you or not. Equating them to children with things like "yet so many are screaming like somebody took their blankie" is always helpful. They may be upset, but the personal attacks that they received were ridiculous (again, not just from you). No one's apologizing for that though. Just apologies for getting a bit too defensive and such.

But that's just my perspective on the thread. I also saw a ton of irrational anger, and a lot of hilarious things like cancelled pre-orders that were immediately un-cancelled (all while Bungie and Activision sit there laughing hysterically like, yep, they'll buy our stuff no matter what we do, and this is proof. Let them talk and get mad. Who cares). Always wonderful. Lots of "fail" on both sides.

In the end, you're right. Do it for the play, and the gamers beside you. Hopefully this all blows over. The DLC timed exclusivity, if over a year, is still BS in my opinion. /End