Agreed (Destiny)
I think the only real grey area I see right now is the origin of the Traveller. And maybe the Queen of the Reef.
~m
Heh. Let your eyes get used to the light level first.How about this one: These races we're striking out against are not evil, they are desperate and scared! They too have been attacked by The Darkness and have either built a huge military machine to combat it (Cabal), fled from it (Fallen), taken extraordinary measures to save themselves (Vex and time travel), or were forced to embrace it (Hive). And now after searching so long for something to save them (The Traveler) they find it half dead orbiting a Darkness defeated world protected by ghostly warriors! Worse, all these other races are trying to beat their race to the prize! Instead of a Covenant of largely evil enemies, perhaps Humanity is fighting against races in great need.
or
Guardians and Fallen both seem to have souls. It's not unreasonable to think that perhaps the Vex aren't entirely mechanical. The Hive seem creepy and almost undead. Who knows what the Cabal are really like. What if instead of this being Humanity's epic struggle to take back our stolen system this is instead a solar system sized chess largely fought light and dark using infinitely respanawable pawns?!
I like your first scenario better. Though I'm thinking the Vex could be far future mechanisms sent back (possibly by a civilization overcome by the Darkness) to change events in their past to keep the Darkness from spreading. They could see any efforts by other races in Destiny's time as irrelevant, being that they already know the outcome, and are therefore willing to kill with impunity. And hence why efforts to communicate with them have invariably failed.~m
Yep, that's a scary take! I like it!
My favorite is that they (or as you say, their builders) somehow found out that NOW was the one time that The Traveler was weak and the one time they might have a chance to really change the future either by destroying The Traveler or by claiming it for their own. It might even be that they know that Humanity and the Hive, Cabal, and Fallen untie, defeat the Darkness, and live happily ever after without knowing about the plight of the Vex. The Vex could still have lost even if we, in their past, won, and they would still need to time travel to fix that.
Complete thread:
- Grimoire -
Xenos,
2014-06-12, 23:35
- Grimoire - DaDerga, 2014-06-13, 01:01
- Grimoire -
TTL Demag0gue,
2014-06-13, 04:55
- That's To Be Expected -
DaDerga,
2014-06-13, 05:55
- That's To Be Expected - TTL Demag0gue, 2014-06-13, 06:04
- Grimoire -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 06:18
- Grimoire -
TTL Demag0gue,
2014-06-13, 06:22
- Grimoire -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 06:54
- Grimoire - TTL Demag0gue, 2014-06-13, 06:59
- This is actually pretty good speculation. I like it - ZackDark, 2014-06-13, 08:05
- The Eternal Caveat - DaDerga, 2014-06-13, 08:22
- Grimoire -
DaDerga,
2014-06-13, 08:25
- Grimoire -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 11:52
- Grimoire - Ragashingo, 2014-06-13, 12:00
- Grimoire -
DaDerga,
2014-06-13, 13:34
- Grimoire -
Malagate,
2014-06-14, 14:45
- Grimoire -
DaDerga,
2014-06-14, 15:40
- Hah! This is one of the exact images I've had in mind. - Malagate, 2014-06-16, 05:44
- Grimoire -
DaDerga,
2014-06-14, 15:56
- Grimoire -
Malagate,
2014-06-16, 05:40
- Grimoire — 2 Pics — Hive -
DaDerga,
2014-06-16, 05:51
- Grimoire — 2 Pics — Hive - INSANEdrive, 2014-06-16, 07:27
- Grimoire — 2 Pics — Hive -
DaDerga,
2014-06-16, 05:51
- Grimoire -
Malagate,
2014-06-16, 05:40
- Grimoire -
DaDerga,
2014-06-14, 15:40
- Grimoire -
Malagate,
2014-06-14, 14:45
- Grimoire -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-14, 10:22
- Grimoire - DaDerga, 2014-06-14, 10:34
- Grimoire -
petetheduck,
2014-06-14, 11:34
- Not in the Alpha - RC, 2014-06-14, 12:56
- There's a story mission!?! -
scarab,
2014-06-15, 01:58
- There's a story mission!?! -
Xenos,
2014-06-15, 02:07
- Ah, that one - scarab, 2014-06-15, 12:29
- There's a story mission!?! -
Xenos,
2014-06-15, 02:07
- Grimoire -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 11:52
- Grimoire -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 06:54
- Grimoire -
TTL Demag0gue,
2014-06-13, 06:22
- Grimoire -
Mr Daax,
2014-06-13, 06:43
- Grimoire - Xenos, 2014-06-13, 06:45
- Grimoire -
petetheduck,
2014-06-13, 06:46
- Grimoire -
DaDerga,
2014-06-13, 06:52
- Grimoire -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 07:01
- Grimoire -
MrPadraig08,
2014-06-13, 07:18
- Grimoire -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 07:29
- Grimoire - bluerunner, 2014-06-13, 08:15
- Valhalla Emptied - DaDerga, 2014-06-13, 08:33
- Grimoire -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 07:29
- Grimoire - ZackDark, 2014-06-13, 08:06
- Damn Good Call - DaDerga, 2014-06-13, 08:27
- Grimoire -
MrPadraig08,
2014-06-13, 07:18
- Grimoire -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 07:01
- I don't buy it. -
Kermit,
2014-06-13, 10:58
- Agreed -
ZackDark,
2014-06-13, 11:05
- Agreed -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 11:26
- Agreed - ZackDark, 2014-06-13, 11:32
- Agreed -
Kermit,
2014-06-13, 11:34
- Agreed -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 11:50
- I liked that - ZackDark, 2014-06-13, 12:03
- Agreed - Kermit, 2014-06-13, 12:15
- Agreed -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 11:50
- Agreed -
Ragashingo,
2014-06-13, 11:38
- Only life important. - Malagate, 2014-06-13, 11:57
- Agreed -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 11:26
- Agreed -
ZackDark,
2014-06-13, 11:05
- Grimoire -
DaDerga,
2014-06-13, 06:52
- Grimoire - narcogen, 2014-06-14, 03:39
- That's To Be Expected -
DaDerga,
2014-06-13, 05:55
- Take A Lookee Here -
DaDerga,
2014-06-13, 06:46
- Nice find! -
TTL Demag0gue,
2014-06-13, 07:02
- Nice find! - DaDerga, 2014-06-13, 07:13
- Take A Lookee Here -
MrPadraig08,
2014-06-13, 07:20
- Take A Lookee Here - Ragashingo, 2014-06-13, 08:47
- YOLO? More like WABDB -
petetheduck,
2014-06-13, 08:46
- That Is Now A Thing -
DaDerga,
2014-06-13, 08:48
- Agreed. :) - Ragashingo, 2014-06-13, 08:50
- Should be DBO's motto -
ZackDark,
2014-06-13, 09:02
- Made it our Motto on the Alpha site. :) -
Beorn,
2014-06-13, 09:54
- Nice! - DaDerga, 2014-06-13, 10:13
- Made it our Motto on the Alpha site. :) -
Beorn,
2014-06-13, 09:54
- Add that to the Randomised DBO title! - INSANEdrive, 2014-06-13, 16:51
- That Is Now A Thing -
DaDerga,
2014-06-13, 08:48
- This is familiar to me, as if it were from an old dream… -
Beorn,
2014-06-13, 10:26
- Oh, aye. -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 10:44
- Goosebumps. -
Beorn,
2014-06-13, 10:52
- Goosebumps. -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 11:16
- Goosebumps. - ZackDark, 2014-06-13, 11:20
- Goosebumps. -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 11:16
- Goosebumps. -
Beorn,
2014-06-13, 10:52
- This is familiar to me, as if it were from an old dream… -
Kermit,
2014-06-13, 11:30
- This is familiar to me, as if it were from an old dream… - Malagate, 2014-06-13, 11:34
- Indeed. - Ragashingo, 2014-06-13, 11:40
- This is familiar to me, as if it were from an old dream… -
Ragashingo,
2014-06-13, 11:34
- This is familiar to me, as if it were from an old dream… -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 12:10
- This is familiar to me, as if it were from an old dream… - Beorn, 2014-06-13, 12:23
- This is familiar to me, as if it were from an old dream… - Cody Miller, 2014-06-14, 10:28
- This is familiar to me, as if it were from an old dream… -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 12:10
- Yes! - Stephen Laughlin, 2014-06-15, 05:10
- Oh, aye. -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 10:44
- Nice find! -
TTL Demag0gue,
2014-06-13, 07:02
- Grimoire - INSANEdrive, 2014-06-13, 07:37
- Familiars -
DaDerga,
2014-06-13, 08:02
- +1 - Malagate, 2014-06-13, 08:05
- Familiars -
TTL Demag0gue,
2014-06-13, 09:52
- Familiars -
DaDerga,
2014-06-13, 10:13
- But it talks to us as a separate person -
ZackDark,
2014-06-13, 10:32
- But it talks to us as a separate person - DaDerga, 2014-06-13, 13:53
- Yep. This. - Ragashingo, 2014-06-13, 12:05
- But it talks to us as a separate person -
ZackDark,
2014-06-13, 10:32
- Familiars -
DaDerga,
2014-06-13, 10:13
- My guardian's name shall be Eric Draven -
stabbim,
2014-06-13, 11:38
- Already a Crow in the cast, no? -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 12:27
- Already a Crow in the cast, no? -
DaDerga,
2014-06-15, 03:46
- Yep, Emo Kid extraordinaire. - Malagate, 2014-06-16, 05:46
- Already a Crow in the cast, no? -
DaDerga,
2014-06-15, 03:46
- Already a Crow in the cast, no? -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 12:27
- So we're zombies? -
RC,
2014-06-13, 09:03
- So we're zombies? -
DaDerga,
2014-06-13, 09:09
- So we're zombies? -
TTL Demag0gue,
2014-06-13, 09:28
- So we're zombies? - DaDerga, 2014-06-13, 09:30
- So we're zombies? -
TTL Demag0gue,
2014-06-13, 09:28
- So we're zombies? -
Malagate,
2014-06-13, 09:22
- +1 - ZackDark, 2014-06-13, 09:27
- So we're zombies? -
DaDerga,
2014-06-13, 09:09
- Grimoire -
stabbim,
2014-06-13, 11:26
- Grimoire -
Xenos,
2014-06-13, 11:50
- Grimoire - MrPadraig08, 2014-06-13, 12:34
- Embargo for Alpha Site? -
Beorn,
2014-06-13, 13:21
- Embargo for Alpha Site? -
Xenos,
2014-06-13, 13:26
- Embargo for Alpha Site? - Beorn, 2014-06-13, 13:37
- Embargo for Alpha Site? -
Xenos,
2014-06-13, 13:26
- Grimoire -
Xenos,
2014-06-13, 11:50
- Grimoire -
MrPadraig08,
2014-06-13, 12:57
- Total Codex, is that you? - Ragashingo, 2014-06-13, 12:59
- Ghost Fragment: The Dark Age -
Stephen Laughlin,
2014-06-15, 04:47
- Ghost Fragment: The Dark Age -
DaDerga,
2014-06-15, 05:30
- Ghost Fragment: The Dark Age -
Kermit,
2014-06-15, 06:59
- Ghost Fragment: The Dark Age -
Malagate,
2014-06-16, 05:52
- Ghost Fragment: The Dark Age - Kermit, 2014-06-16, 09:19
- Ghost Fragment: The Dark Age -
Malagate,
2014-06-16, 05:52
- Ghost Fragment: The Dark Age -
Kermit,
2014-06-15, 06:59
- Execellent. -
Ragashingo,
2014-06-15, 07:46
- Bam! - DaDerga, 2014-06-15, 09:18
- Ghost Fragment: The Dark Age -
stabbim,
2014-06-15, 10:13
- Yep. Good quote from a good source. :) - Ragashingo, 2014-06-15, 10:21
- Ghost Fragment: The Dark Age -
Xenos,
2014-06-15, 17:15
- Can't Wait - DaDerga, 2014-06-15, 17:17
- Ghost Fragment: Darkness -
Xenos,
2014-06-15, 18:30
- What was that? -
ZackDark,
2014-06-15, 18:38
- What was that? -
Ragashingo,
2014-06-15, 18:42
- What was that? -
Malagate,
2014-06-16, 05:59
- What was that? - DaDerga, 2014-06-16, 06:18
- What was that? -
Malagate,
2014-06-16, 05:59
- What was that? -
Ragashingo,
2014-06-15, 18:42
- /Sekhmet/ isn't going to like this. - INSANEdrive, 2014-06-15, 18:41
- Ghost Fragment: Darkness Highlights -
INSANEdrive,
2014-06-15, 19:08
- Quick critic - ZackDark, 2014-06-15, 19:24
- Here We Go Again - DaDerga, 2014-06-16, 06:13
- What was that? -
ZackDark,
2014-06-15, 18:38
- Ghost Fragment: The Dark Age -
DaDerga,
2014-06-15, 05:30
- NPC dialogue confirmation -
Stephen Laughlin,
2014-06-15, 22:16
- NPC dialogue confirmation - Kermit, 2014-06-15, 22:31
- Woah. Thanks, mate - ZackDark, 2014-06-15, 22:47
- NPC dialogue confirmation -
HavokBlue,
2014-06-15, 23:03
- NPC dialogue confirmation -
Ragashingo,
2014-06-15, 23:06
- NPC dialogue confirmation - Zero, 2014-06-15, 23:15
- NPC dialogue confirmation -
HavokBlue,
2014-06-15, 23:38
- So you're saying FWC are Destiny's Preppers? - Malagate, 2014-06-16, 06:03
- NPC dialogue confirmation -
Ragashingo,
2014-06-15, 23:06
- I heard the gunsmith say this... -
MrPadraig08,
2014-06-16, 07:35
- Exo Warlock for me confirmed -
ZackDark,
2014-06-16, 09:19
- Yes! The Robo-Gandalfs shall take over! -
Mr Daax,
2014-06-16, 12:28
- Yes! The Robo-Gandalfs shall take over! -
Durandal,
2014-07-06, 14:18
- *Bump* - INSANEdrive, 2014-07-06, 14:28
- Yes! The Robo-Gandalfs shall take over! -
Durandal,
2014-07-06, 14:18
- Yes! The Robo-Gandalfs shall take over! -
Mr Daax,
2014-06-16, 12:28
- Exo Warlock for me confirmed -
ZackDark,
2014-06-16, 09:19
- Ghost Fragment: Fallen - Yapok, 2014-07-23, 17:52