Things that annoy me about tWoK (Off-Topic)
- people who say that it's the most intelligentest of the ST films yet it contains massive amounts of stupidity and was based on a false premise (see next point) and it's execution did the opposite of what it was intended to achieve (and fanboys never noticed) (see 2 points down)
- people who say that prior to this film Kirk had always ignored the consequences of failure and had been teflon (ignoring what had been established during TOS)
- That the answer to the question, "Am I too old for this job?" was, from what we saw in the film, a definite YES. And yet he managed to keep his job and didn't get relieved of command.
- Kirk not raising shields for no well defined reason
- Spock tells Kirk how to defeat Khan - and the ploy was laughable - a superior intellect has problems with spacial reasoning?
- Scotty abandons his post during an attack to try to lay a guilt trip on his commanding officer
- after many years my memory is hazy but... Checkov said that Kahn put things in their ears to control their minds and nobody asked: are they still there? how did you resist? and Bones didn't immediately scan him with his medical tricorder.
So, in summary, my problems with it are the same as most of my problems with ST.
- The sheer lack of thought that went into it.
- The incompetent execution that completely undermine the points that the writers are trying to convey
- The fact that fans never notice these problems or make excuses for them (I blame the fans for the continued naffness of ST) (the makers make shit and the fans lap it up)
other things that annoy me about ST
- it's anti-science - I like my science fiction to at least understand science - but it almost never does so I'm pretty used to that - still doesn't make me happy about it - most tv/film SF is inherently Luddite
- Federation types who profess a respect for different cultures and yet turn up their noses at other people's food because it is too spicy
- warp core breaches, ODN junctions, plasma leaks, shields down to 30%, the most boring and implausible battles imaginable - people getting injured because their consoles explode after the ship has been hit (WTF?!?)
Those aren't exhaustive lists (though I am exhausted typing them) :-)
I'm glad ST has finished and I don't want to see it coming back.
I'm ignoring the new films - they are fairly naff but are, mildly, entertaining and don't have pretensions of intellectual worth.
Complete thread:
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
ncsuDuncan,
2013-12-08, 21:32
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
roland,
2013-12-08, 22:22
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
Cody Miller,
2013-12-08, 22:51
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
scarab,
2013-12-08, 23:19
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread - INSANEdrive, 2013-12-09, 17:44
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
scarab,
2013-12-08, 23:19
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
Cody Miller,
2013-12-08, 22:51
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread - Cody Miller, 2013-12-08, 22:50
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
stabbim,
2013-12-08, 22:50
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
Cody Miller,
2013-12-08, 22:52
- Dude, just get passed the theme song and you're golden. -
MrPadraig08,
2013-12-09, 07:15
- Just mute it. The visual montage is great for the show. - Leviathan, 2013-12-09, 07:22
- IT'S BEEN A LAWWWWNG RAWWWDDDD - Jillybean, 2013-12-09, 14:26
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
Leviathan,
2013-12-09, 07:20
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
Cody Miller,
2013-12-09, 09:45
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
Leviathan,
2013-12-09, 10:21
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
RC,
2013-12-09, 12:52
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread - Leviathan, 2013-12-09, 12:58
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
Cody Miller,
2013-12-09, 13:31
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
Ragashingo,
2013-12-09, 13:51
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread - SonofMacPhisto, 2013-12-09, 20:50
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
Ragashingo,
2013-12-09, 13:51
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
RC,
2013-12-09, 12:52
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
Leviathan,
2013-12-09, 10:21
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
Cody Miller,
2013-12-09, 09:45
- Dude, just get passed the theme song and you're golden. -
MrPadraig08,
2013-12-09, 07:15
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
ncsuDuncan,
2013-12-08, 23:03
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
Phoenix_9286,
2013-12-08, 23:26
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread - Mid7night, 2013-12-09, 12:09
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
Phoenix_9286,
2013-12-08, 23:26
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
Cody Miller,
2013-12-08, 22:52
- First thoughts. -
ncsuDuncan,
2013-12-08, 23:23
- 7 episodes in 1 hour. Not bad. :) -
Ragashingo,
2013-12-08, 23:35
- 7 episodes in 1 hour. Not bad. :) - ncsuDuncan, 2013-12-08, 23:38
- First thoughts. - stabbim, 2013-12-09, 11:34
- First thoughts. -
DeeJ,
2013-12-10, 14:59
- First thoughts. -
ncsuDuncan,
2013-12-10, 21:13
- First thoughts. -
Ragashingo,
2013-12-10, 22:21
- And the floppy disk - scarab, 2013-12-10, 22:30
- First thoughts. - Kermit, 2014-05-19, 11:38
- First thoughts. -
Ragashingo,
2013-12-10, 22:21
- First thoughts. -
ncsuDuncan,
2013-12-10, 21:13
- First thoughts. -
ZackDark,
2013-12-10, 15:56
- First thoughts. - Phoenix_9286, 2013-12-10, 19:02
- 7 episodes in 1 hour. Not bad. :) -
Ragashingo,
2013-12-08, 23:35
- "Star Trek: The Next Generation" Thread -
Quirel,
2013-12-09, 01:22
- Close enough. -
INSANEdrive,
2013-12-09, 17:39
- Close enough. -
Quirel,
2013-12-09, 21:26
- Close enough. -
Ragashingo,
2013-12-09, 22:07
- Close enough. -
Cody Miller,
2013-12-09, 22:17
- Close enough. - Ragashingo, 2013-12-09, 23:23
- Close enough. - Quirel, 2013-12-10, 00:55
- Things that annoy me about tWoK -
scarab,
2013-12-10, 04:11
- t'teflon' Kirk in TOS - scarab, 2013-12-10, 04:55
- OMG My other post was spam filtered -
scarab,
2013-12-10, 04:57
- OMG My other post was spam filtered -
Leviathan,
2013-12-13, 19:51
- How do you give citations without referring to other sites? -
scarab,
2013-12-14, 00:01
- Ya can't. :) -
Leviathan,
2013-12-14, 08:16
- It's learning our ways! -
ZackDark,
2013-12-14, 11:34
- I don't want the human race ruled by DBO's spam filter -
scarab,
2013-12-14, 12:46
- I don't want the human race ruled by DBO's spam filter - Quirel, 2013-12-14, 14:04
- I don't want the human race ruled by DBO's spam filter -
scarab,
2013-12-14, 12:46
- It's learning our ways! -
ZackDark,
2013-12-14, 11:34
- Ya can't. :) -
Leviathan,
2013-12-14, 08:16
- How do you give citations without referring to other sites? -
scarab,
2013-12-14, 00:01
- OMG My other post was spam filtered -
Leviathan,
2013-12-13, 19:51
- *Jaw drops* -
Quirel,
2013-12-10, 10:45
- "Admiral, if we go by the book, hours could seem like days" - scarab, 2013-12-10, 11:52
- Close enough. -
Cody Miller,
2013-12-09, 22:17
- Close enough. -
Ragashingo,
2013-12-09, 22:07
- Close enough. -
Quirel,
2013-12-09, 21:26
- Close enough. -
INSANEdrive,
2013-12-09, 17:39
- I started all of Star Trek in story order last year.* -
Leviathan,
2013-12-09, 07:52
- "Plain, simple Garak." ;) - stabbim, 2013-12-09, 11:43
- I started all of Star Trek in story order last year.* -
scarab,
2013-12-10, 07:57
- I started all of Star Trek in story order last year.* -
Leviathan,
2013-12-10, 09:29
- I started all of Star Trek in story order last year.* - scarab, 2013-12-10, 10:43
- I started all of Star Trek in story order last year.* -
Leviathan,
2013-12-10, 09:29
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General Vagueness,
2014-05-19, 00:11
- Set condition one throughout the fleet. -
ncsuDuncan,
2014-05-19, 22:22
- Set condition one throughout the fleet. - Dax01, 2014-05-20, 02:23
- Set condition one throughout the fleet. -
Kermit,
2014-05-20, 07:52
- Set condition one throughout the fleet. - Grizzlei, 2014-05-20, 08:28
- Set condition one throughout the fleet. -
scarab,
2014-05-21, 22:44
- Set condition one throughout the fleet. - Grizzlei, 2014-05-22, 09:56
- Tell me about it - Beorn, 2014-05-20, 08:49
- Set condition one throughout the fleet. -
ncsuDuncan,
2014-05-19, 22:22
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roland,
2013-12-08, 22:22