Counter-point: It matters a little bit. (Destiny)

by cheapLEY , Sunday, August 17, 2025, 19:20 (9 hours, 11 minutes ago) @ Cody Miller

and I think it leads to the sort of adversarial relationship they seem to have with their community.

The biggest driving factor here is adversarial game design in my opinion.

Say more.

I’m sure that’s a factor, but I don’t know how much. Warframe is arguably much worse in a lot of ways. It requires much more of a grind in a lot of ways, and has far more ways to spend money than Destiny, but it also feels much more generous at the same time, somehow. The fact that it’s actually fully free undoubtedly helps it in that regard though. That might just come down to a weird self selection thing, though. Destiny gets a lot of shit for all its systems and how difficult to is to start, but Warframe takes that to a whole new level, so the players that manage to get through it might just be more likely to put up with more bullshit.