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Let's talk about how dead this place is. (Off-Topic)

by Coaxkez, Tuesday, December 31, 2024, 11:27 (22 days ago)

But this is not intended to be an uncomfortable conversation and I'm certainly not trying to suggest that anyone "needs" to be here more often.

Hell, I'd have no room to talk. I'm only a lurker, for the most part.

Mostly, I am just interested in reflecting upon how we got here. Is it because of Destiny? Did we all gradually lose interest and fall off the wagon? Or did we just get older? Is there nothing interesting to talk about right now?

HAS THE VERY ESSENCE AND SOUL OF BUNGIE CROSSED THE POINT OF NO RETURN?

/s

I'd like to know what we're all thinking re: the future of this place and our own personal futures with this hobby. For my part, ever since becoming a father, my time on the Internet has decreased tremendously and I have never felt the urge to "remedy" that. I rather enjoy my quiet time these days; I don't know that I have the same yearning for digital community and/or stimulation that I once did. I'll always enjoy playing video games, but I'm pretty disconnected from the cutting edge of the hobby to the point that I don't have a lot to contribute to those conversations anymore.

As for Bungie... well, I have to be honest and admit that I disconnected from the Destiny universe several years ago and have not been keeping track of any developments beyond nigh-obligatory cursory glances at each new expansion upon its release. (I did watch a Let's Play of The Final Shape, though, for the story closure. It appeared to have been a well-made entry.) Marathon is intriguing and I hope to give it a chance when it is finished, but I'm not sure how I feel about another live-service game and I don't know if the project is speaking to the things I enjoyed about (or even identified with) Marathon. So I don't know.

It's wait-and-see right now, but I feel like I may be approaching this journey's end.

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by Cody Miller @, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Tuesday, December 31, 2024, 14:03 (22 days ago) @ Coaxkez

Mostly, I am just interested in reflecting upon how we got here

Everyone is jacked in to the metaverse instead.

Let's talk about how dead this place is.

by Claude Errera @, Tuesday, December 31, 2024, 15:20 (22 days ago) @ Coaxkez

I can't speak for anyone else. I still play Destiny, and I still talk to people who play Destiny... just not here, I guess.

I'm here less because being here stopped being fun, at some point; it felt like an endless stream of negativity, and it hurt my head. Trying to point out that nothing but griping or snark on a fansite didn't really make sense to me didn't really move the needle... so I left.

::shrug::

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by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Wednesday, January 01, 2025, 07:52 (21 days ago) @ Coaxkez

The Final Shape got me all hopeful we would get this place back alive. It really did feel like Forsaken 2.0 for me. And then, this happened. After they had already done something similar after Lightfall... It completely killed the vibe for me.

On a lighter note, I've been working through my backlog now, in between really fun sessions of Helldivers 2.

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Eulogy.

by INSANEdrive, ಥ_ಥ | f(ಠ‿↼)z | ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, Wednesday, January 01, 2025, 16:10 (21 days ago) @ Coaxkez

Ladies and Gentlemen, friends and fellow gamers,

We gather here today to remember and honor a beloved companion — a pastime that once brought us joy, challenge, camaraderie, and adventure. Today, we bid farewell to gaming as a hobby. As we stand here in this digital void, let us reflect on the memories, the highs and lows, and the lasting impact it has had on our lives.

Gaming, in its prime, was more than just a hobby. It was a gateway to other worlds, a platform for storytelling, a way to explore the uncharted and the imaginative. It was a place where we could become heroes and villains, where friendships were formed, and where every victory felt like a triumph — not just of skill, but of spirit.

We remember the first time we picked up a controller, the first time we sat before a screen that transported us to places we never thought possible. From the pixelated landscapes of Super Mario Bros. to the sprawling vistas of Halo, not to mention the breathtaking adventures of ...well, GETTING to the LAN Party. These weren’t just games — they were experiences. They shaped us, taught us, and gave us a sense of belonging in an ever-changing world.

For some, gaming was an escape, a reprieve from the mundane. For others, it was a challenge, a way to test themselves against the impossible. But no matter the reason we played, we found solace in the ritual of it all: the click of the mouse, the hum of the console, the rush of competition, the warmth of shared victory, and even the sting of defeat. Camaraderie and adventure.

But, as with all things, time moves forward. The industry evolved, the technology advanced, and with it, so did the culture. What once was a personal refuge, a simple pleasure, became a sprawling, often overwhelming world of microtransactions, constant updates, and an ever-expanding universe of online play. The hobby that began in basements and living rooms transformed into a global marketplace — where the joy of gaming was sometimes overshadowed by the demands of capitalism, the pull of social validation, and the overwhelming pressure to keep up with the latest trends.

And so, over time, gaming began to lose the intimacy it once had. The casual player became a rarity; the joy of exploration was often replaced by the grind of progression. A game of fun became just another game of numbers. As screens became more connected, many of us felt a disconnect — not just from the games we loved, but from the very reason we played. The hobby became less about passion and more about keeping up. For many, the lines between work and play blurred. Gamers found themselves more invested in virtual economies than in the stories and experiences they once cherished. The simple joy of escaping into a game faded, replaced by the weight of expectations, both external and internal.

It is this shift — this evolution — that brings us here today. Gaming, as we once knew it, is gone, but not forgotten. The golden age of gaming as a casual, passionate hobby has passed into history and it is unknown if it can or shall return. In its place, we find something different, something complex, but also something that, for many, no longer holds the same magic.

As we say goodbye to gaming in its purest form, let us not forget the lessons it taught us. It taught us resilience in the face of adversity, it taught us teamwork and cooperation, it taught us the importance of imagination and creativity. We learned that failure isn’t the end, but just another chance to try again. We learned that the journey is just as important as the destination, and sometimes the best stories are those that we tell ourselves in the quiet moments between battles.

To the world of gaming, we offer our deepest thanks. Thank you for the countless hours of joy, the friendships forged in digital landscapes, the challenges that pushed us to be better. Thank you for the stories that moved us, for the worlds you allowed us to explore, and for the sense of community you built.

And to those who still find solace in games, who continue to play for the love of it, carry the torch forward. While the hobby may have evolved, the spirit of gaming — the wonder, the challenge, the joy — remains. It lives on in the hearts of those who remember when it was just about having fun. It lives on in every indie developer creating something unique, in every player who dives into a new world, and in every moment of quiet reflection that takes place after finishing a game that changed you.

So, let us raise our controllers, our mice, and our keyboards in tribute. Let us remember the hobby that once was, and let us honor its legacy in our hearts.

Farewell, gaming as a hobby. You will be missed, but never forgotten. ...is what an idiot would write LMFAO GOTT'M!

Death is 'finite folks, but change works both ways! Especially when it's simply a case of our dumb ass producing such a change, medium depending. So then... here is a question folks:

Why was this post made? Coaxkez. Buckaroo. Why was this post made?

I mean that with kindness and sincerity, why was the post made? Are you asking for permission there Coaxkez? As between the lines, it looks like it to me. 'Cause, even on just the face of it, we know why, right? Why... yes I have to say it, "silence fills the empty grave". There are so many social contracts ripped to shreds, I say, be it technologically, business wise, ...probably some other third thing, and now it's left to "what do you want to say", or "be the change you want to see in the world".

Cause, if you ask me, it doesn't look dead to me. I see three posts, made recently, all answered. Shorter then it used to be, yes... but dead? Eh. What do you want to say? We are so spoiled here, that we dare see this silence as an end. What do you want to say? And for whatever it's worth, thanks Wu.

OH! And speaking of death! How about an observation from something some where where ever what could it be *ahem*;

  • ... so why do you hold these old things, left to dust? It's such a recklessly needless clutter, just get rid of it.
  • It's the only tangible way to give my experience. When humans hold something, so odd made different in age, it tends to feel more real then the stories we give. Suddenly the embellishments have weight, because you can, could hold them in somewhere beyond an imagination.
  • Sure, but ****** doesn't care. **** can't.
  • Doesn't mean **** won't.
  • OH, that's an evasion if I've ever heard one. Look at you holding out a hope for your clutter. **** doesn't need THINGS, **** needs **** *****. YOU need to be here NOW, not lost your THEN!
  • AND WHEN YOU FORGET THE THEN IS HOW YOU GET LOST IN THE NOW! Do not DARE mock my care because you disapprove how I see best to be it's caretaker. Now, get out, I need not your nag, I have neither the patience nor the oats for it.
  • ...
  • I think I see why it's so dusty in here. (Leaves.)
  • *Sigh* ... ... oh what strange future, I hold in my past.

And, finally, the reason why I jumped on here in the first place; Happy New Year All! And BUCKLE UP BUTTERCUPS, and STUDY THAT HISTORY! 'Cause WOO! LEARNING IS FOR DUMB PEOPLE! WOO HOOooo...oh wait. Hold on. shit.

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Eulogy.

by Coaxkez, Wednesday, January 01, 2025, 22:34 (20 days ago) @ INSANEdrive

Man, I really think you read too much into this.

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by ManKitten, The Stugotz is strong in me., Thursday, January 02, 2025, 06:33 (20 days ago) @ Coaxkez

For the past 20 years I've had a constant "go-to" game. The first 10 years it was Halo. The past 10 years it was Destiny. There would be other games pop in an out but those two were the solid backbone of my gaming hobby life. After Halo 4, the franchise lost me. Destiny became my main squeeze. But it started to get stale about two years ago and I stuck with it just to finish it all up. Once I completed the Final Shape, my interested level dropped quickly and I ended up deleting everything off my box a couple months ago. It was taking up soooo much space.

So now I'm just wandering around looking for my next "go-to" game. I'll still play Warzone and Gold With Your Friends with my buddies. Hop into some MCC multiplayer games, but those games are always so imbalanced, 2 games is enough. Do my daily Wreckfest tournament races. Sometimes some Fortnite with my son.

We got a Quest3 for the boys for Christmas but so far it has been a test of patience. I hate that thing.

I'll still check this forum many times a day (while at work) just hoping something new has happened.

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by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Thursday, January 02, 2025, 12:49 (20 days ago) @ Claude Errera

I can't speak for anyone else. I still play Destiny, and I still talk to people who play Destiny... just not here, I guess.

I'm here less because being here stopped being fun, at some point; it felt like an endless stream of negativity, and it hurt my head. Trying to point out that nothing but griping or snark on a fansite didn't really make sense to me didn't really move the needle... so I left.

::shrug::

What Claude said. Also, sometimes in life you realize that no matter how much you love and support someone, or an organization, or a game studio, or a community, the feeling might not be mutual. The object or your love and support might turn out not to be what you thought it was. Or maybe it changed. I imagined a redoubt against our poisonous online culture and tribalism. I blame no one but myself for this unrealistic expectation. Maybe it's high school all the way down, folks. Maybe junior high. I'm a loyalist at heart, though, and old habits die hard. I didn't tie myself to this mast for no reason. I've considered deboarding many times, and still might, but I also still care about many who might read this. That's why I'm still here. To those I say, I hope the new year brings us together, somehow, somewhere. And I wish good things to all in 2025.

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by Schedonnardus, Texas, Thursday, January 02, 2025, 13:39 (20 days ago) @ Coaxkez

For me, it was just too much going on. Work, family, grad school. Destiny was like a second job. I can go months without playing Halo, and jump right back into matchmaking like nothing happened. I am not happy with the story direction that Halo took under 343, but I enjoy the matchmaking and firefight. I stepped away from Destiny b/c there was the constant urge to stay up to date or not be able to compete or to be useful to the group. Now, I mostly lurk here to see what folks are up to.

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by kidtsunami @, Atlanta, GA, Friday, January 03, 2025, 07:04 (19 days ago) @ Coaxkez

I'm posting here about the same amount I always do

Let's talk about how dead this place is.

by ChrisTheeCrappy, Friday, January 03, 2025, 12:25 (19 days ago) @ Coaxkez

As others have said, mostly life, work, family, etc. I play Wednesdays still with a DBO group, but that's about all I get in. I try to do the story the days following an update and then I barely touch it. I find it actually to be some of the best content in a while, just can't spend the time I used to (and I do try to play Halo and Apex a little here and there too). I stopped coming to this site mainly because I forgot the password and because I only played that 1 day a week. These franchises have been a part of my life for a long time, don't want to let go, but life.

Eulogy.

by ChrisTheeCrappy, Friday, January 03, 2025, 12:26 (19 days ago) @ Coaxkez

Man, I really think you read too much into this.

I don't think you read into it enough, or just don't know this crazy man.

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by Vortech @, A Fourth Wheel, Friday, January 03, 2025, 21:10 (18 days ago) @ Coaxkez

Destiny isn't a game that I enjoy ALL that much if I'm playing solo. So, combined with not having as much time to be on Destiny, when I do I'll boot it up and after 30 minutes of playing on my own (the first 10 minutes of which were inventory management) I'll do something else. The only thing that's worth pre-scheduling is raids. I like raids the most and the people I raided with moved on, mostly.

It's think that's about it.

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Eulogy.

by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Saturday, January 04, 2025, 08:53 (18 days ago) @ ChrisTheeCrappy

Man, I really think you read too much into this.


I don't think you read into it enough, or just don't know this crazy man.

I suspect Coaxkez was addressing the speculation about his motives for posting, about which he is the expert.

Insane, you addle my brain, pleasantly. Good to see you pop up.

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by bluerunner @, Music City, Sunday, January 05, 2025, 09:39 (17 days ago) @ Coaxkez

I only check the forum on my phone, and for some reason it loads really slow, so I quit checking regularly.

Bungie's system for Destiny burned me out so badly that I don't like the thought of playing anymore. It's not good mentally for me.

The story didn't hold me, and the writing got cringing to me. I lost interest in where it was going, and I didn't loke some of the characters at all.

I recently picked up Red Dead Redemption 2. Playing though the story and I really enjoy it. Great writing, amazing acting, and so many interesting things to do. Scenery is awesome. I like that I can just chill on a hill watching the sunset. I'm just more at home in the mountains than I am in a GTA city. I feel like this is what I'll be playing for a while.

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by Morpheus @, High Charity, Sunday, January 05, 2025, 10:09 (17 days ago) @ Coaxkez

I play plenty of Destiny 1. But...no one else plays Destiny 1. (There's that negativity again. ;-))

I recently purchased The Witch Queen and the 30th Anniversary Pack on sale, and for the most part, I had fun coming back for a while. I'll be honest, all this shaping, formatting and power balance crap is like learning new languages, which is pretty daunting...but for the most part I click 'Max Light' on DIM and adjust to whatever elemental burn is on. I'm well past done trying to strategize a perfect build (funny/sad story is, a few years ago, I actually paid a 'build expert' to look at my gear and create loadouts for me, such an idiot) and just buy empty slots, fill them up with the least confusing perks and spam 'B' to back out of the menu before I get killed.

But one thing I've noticed here in DBO over the years...is that for the most part, this place is... really more of a Playstation Pack. I don't say that with any malice or contempt; I just seemed to notice that when the FTB was being used, Playstation events were slightly more commonly made than Xbox ones. Not to say there aren't Xbox players here, of course. And crossplay helps bridge that gap for Destiny 2, but—and correct me if I'm wrong—the FTB seemed to be getting less general use by the time that system was implemented.

Another problem that kinda prevents more gatherings is really a shortage of players. Yeah, the site stats say 1400 registered users, but even accounting for lurkers, the active/semi-active forumgoers has to be less than 5% of that. And how many of those people are active D2 players? Especially active enough (with enough free time) to clear out half a day for a raid? A raid that most people have already done?

That's on the game/forum side.

On the news side, Bungie is in huge trouble. On every front. I doubt anything'll happen this year, but I'm truly worried that this might be the pulling of the toilet handle. And with most of the news being bad or unfortunate, who'd want to publish that here? And in terms of other Destiny content—sure, we can go out and find Destiny montages or cheeses or humorous fan creations...but unlike HBO where forumgoers didn't know until the news posted it...it's now ironically the opposite. The meager handful of posters and lurkers who have stayed all this time(or happened to stumble across us) post the find in a thread on the forum, and there you go—everybody knows about it. Nowadays, people tell us, we don't tell them.

Of course sales should probably be announced, but again, if people haven't bought an expansion or a dungeon this far out...do they really still want to play?

So to answer your question Coax... it's all of it. It is Destiny. We did lose interest. It did get too negative. We all got older, had kids, found new games, gave up games. We don't have anything interesting to talk about—at least not Destiny-wise—it would be just sad heart-rending trouble.

I kinda had plans to do more posts about the other games I was playing like I did with the other two, but I honestly just never put my thoughts down to paper and got too distracted moving on to something else!

I honestly don't know what Wu's plan is for this site. But I do know I still visit at least once a day, even if it's to see if nothing happened.

But yeah, I'm on D2 sometimes, and D1 almost all the time. ;-) Hit me up!

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by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Sunday, January 05, 2025, 11:19 (17 days ago) @ Morpheus

All good observations. I will say that yes, there was a FTB platform divide early on, and PS might have been slightly more prevalent when some hardcore among us went that route to get exclusives (which were never that great, btw), but in general I've always thought that this was one of most Xbox-centric Destiny sites around because so many of us had Halo roots. I also think that after a time, much of the use of the FTB was private, because people settled in to a groove, and were using it to plan with the people they usually played with. It would be rude to open the event to anyone if they were pretty sure they would have the same full team that they played with last week. If it was a public event, it was open to all DBO members. I think that's how most of us thought of it anyway.

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by Revenant1988 ⌂ @, How do I forum?, Sunday, January 05, 2025, 13:40 (17 days ago) @ Coaxkez

I lurk here to see what the people are up to (shut down FB, so this is kinda it now).

I've been destiny free for like 7 years now lol. It just wasn't for me, that's all.

In general I've not been able to prioritize gaming, just in a different spot in life right now.

I fired up the xbox around Christmas to cash in a gamepass card I was gifted, and I'll play a few games while that is active and then when it has expired the xbox goes away until next Christmas when I un-seal the hushed casket again, probably.

In a positive note I've been saving up to do some major work on my basement and the goal is to turn that into a LAN space. Will people still show up for Halo? What other old\new games? Who knows. I'll figure that out when I get there.

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No Regrets

by Robot Chickens, Monday, January 06, 2025, 10:13 (16 days ago) @ Coaxkez
edited by Robot Chickens, Monday, January 06, 2025, 10:23

I was on it for the journey. Gameplay was almost always fun. There were a variety of activities such as dungeons, raids and nightfall strikes that offered some fun challenges. Hanging out with y'all added a ton of enjoyment to the hobby. I think I'm overestimating when I say it cost me about $100 for the expansions/seasons and I got my money's worth. That roughly $1000 by the end. I've spent that kind of money on hobbies that never panned out/ didn't give me that level of return in the form of joy. The story had some highs and some pretty deep lows but I was invested in seeing how everything turned out. There were always just enough good things going that I was willing to see if they pulled it off. That last season leading into The Final Shape was just so much fun and I thought they nailed the ending. I still had my critiques but it was a satisfying journey for me.

But... 10 years is a long time to be doing the same thing. I think they could have condensed it into 5 years and given us better value in the story department but that's another topic. I may jump onto a new journey in that world if it has a much shorter arc to it's conclusion, but I'm happy with it as I reflect on my experience as of now. I have no idea if they're going to make things worse by adding to it and there's a big part of me that wants to end on a high note.

Let's talk about how dead this place is.

by Simpsons Rule @, Wednesday, January 08, 2025, 13:19 (14 days ago) @ Morpheus

I recently purchased The Witch Queen and the 30th Anniversary Pack on sale, and for the most part, I had fun coming back for a while. I'll be honest, all this shaping, formatting and power balance crap is like learning new languages, which is pretty daunting...but for the most part I click 'Max Light' on DIM and adjust to whatever elemental burn is on. I'm well past done trying to strategize a perfect build (funny/sad story is, a few years ago, I actually paid a 'build expert' to look at my gear and create loadouts for me, such an idiot) and just buy empty slots, fill them up with the least confusing perks and spam 'B' to back out of the menu before I get killed.

I recently got back into the game and despite all the negativity I've been having a blast getting caught up - but learning the new mechanics has been daunting for me as well. Clearing out my vault is still my least-favorite part of the game and it was extra irritating when I wasn't sure where to even begin. At least I have a system now.

Another problem that kinda prevents more gatherings is really a shortage of players. Yeah, the site stats say 1400 registered users, but even accounting for lurkers, the active/semi-active forumgoers has to be less than 5% of that. And how many of those people are active D2 players? Especially active enough (with enough free time) to clear out half a day for a raid? A raid that most people have already done?

I've been pretty eager to try and raid with people here but I'm just not sure how to connect with anyone. I think over the years, and through the participation droughts, people have developed their go-to groups and now communicated outside of the forum or clan chat - which makes it difficult for anyone new to participate.

But yeah, I'm on D2 sometimes, and D1 almost all the time. ;-) Hit me up!

Ditto.

-SR

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by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Thursday, January 09, 2025, 13:38 (13 days ago) @ Robot Chickens

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by squidnh3, Friday, January 10, 2025, 11:40 (12 days ago) @ Coaxkez

There's certainly a multitude of reasons Destiny seems to have lost its luster, I think for both game design reasons and human reasons. I know I still get joy from playing it, but 10 years is a long time to play just one thing (that's about how long Halo lasted for me too). The difference this time is I'm not sure what will replace it. Perhaps not even a video game.

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by squidnh3, Friday, January 10, 2025, 11:42 (12 days ago) @ Revenant1988

In a positive note I've been saving up to do some major work on my basement and the goal is to turn that into a LAN space. Will people still show up for Halo? What other old\new games? Who knows. I'll figure that out when I get there.

You still in Ohio? My friends and I still do a Halo LAN once a year, it's still a lot of fun.

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by Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316) ⌂ @, Detroit, Friday, January 10, 2025, 16:32 (12 days ago) @ squidnh3

In a positive note I've been saving up to do some major work on my basement and the goal is to turn that into a LAN space. Will people still show up for Halo? What other old\new games? Who knows. I'll figure that out when I get there.


You still in Ohio? My friends and I still do a Halo LAN once a year, it's still a lot of fun.

Where at? Now that I know you're in Metro Detroit.

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by cheapLEY @, Saturday, January 11, 2025, 19:13 (10 days ago) @ Coaxkez

I've been mulling this over for a bit. I've tried to write something multiple times since you posted this thread, but I can't seem to find the words to convey anything meaningful.

I loved Destiny . . . until I didn't. I was angry at it for a while, for failing to live up to whatever hypothetical expectations I had. I still find myself wishing it had been different, somehow, but I couldn't tell you how. Some of the most fun content I've ever experienced in gaming was in Destiny. The raids, and especially the dungeons are just top-tier gaming. As a gameplay experience, nothing really comes close in the same way. The game just got to where it asked for too much extraneous stuff in order for me to fully enjoy those raids and dungeons. That extraneous stuff wavered from pretty fun to mind-numbingly tedious depending on the season and my mood. At the end of the day, it just became not worth it--it was eating more of my free time than I was willing to spend on it when there are just so many other amazing games begging for my attention, and so much other non-gaming stuff in my life competing for the little free time I had. I've reached the point where I look back on Destiny fondly, but I don't miss it being a part of my life. Destiny turned out to be an amazing game that's also really difficult for me to just engage with on my own terms. Partly because the game just won't freaking let you, but also because it turns out I'm just really susceptible to all the hooks it tries to use to keep me playing constantly. So I had to decide to just keep playing and ignoring other things I wanted to do, or quit entirely.

Which naturally just leads to DBO becoming less relevant. I still check this place daily, but without actively playing the game, there's not much for me to weigh in on in the rare instance people are actually here talking about it. This place still feels like my home on the internet, though, and I'll always appreciate the relationships I formed here, even though only a handful of them really transcended the playing Destiny together part of it.

And then this year happened and I stopped playing games pretty much altogether. I think I've played three games that actually released this year--Balatro, Helldivers II, and Stellar Blade (which I still haven't completed). Now that I'm back in a place with good internet access and more free time, I still find myself gravitating towards things other than games more often than not. And when I do fire something up, it's been Morrowind of all things over the last few months, which is fine, because that game is genuinely incredible, even after 22 years.

I think I played no small part in some people choosing not to hang around here, and I feel bad about that. I sort of naively never understood before, but being really disconnected from the wider world this last year has brought me around to Claude's perspective. I can see now how the constant bitching about Destiny wasn't fun to read every day, even if, at least from my perspective, it was never just negativity for its own sake and was mostly meaningful discussion. We are inundated with negativity basically constantly on the modern internet, and it sucks, and I regret bringing it here. There's lots of stuff to be genuinely pissed off about in the world and in life, but damn, video games isn't one of them, and it took me far too long to really internalize that. Life is too fucking short to be pissed off about having to play ten hours a week of a video game to keep up to par for the few bits of it I actually enjoyed.

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by Morpheus @, High Charity, Monday, January 13, 2025, 16:46 (9 days ago) @ Simpsons Rule

I've been pretty eager to try and raid with people here but I'm just not sure how to connect with anyone. I think over the years, and through the participation droughts, people have developed their go-to groups and now communicated outside of the forum or clan chat - which makes it difficult for anyone new to participate.

-SR

EXACTLY, word for word, and that's another nail in the coffin, at least socially. Out of a clan, or a group, or even a website like this...say, 6-10 people make up a stable consistent fireteam, and go through [x] raid as routinely as brushing your teeth. Everybody knows what to do, what role they want to be, what challenges, etc. And as a result, they get it done in less than 20 minutes.

"Same time next week? See ya there." Revolutions.

And while I completely understand that, and I guess there isn't really anything inherently wrong with it, bam there goes the social aspect. You and your raid buddies are in your fireteam bubble. You invite someone new, the machine comes to a grinding halt trying to teach them how, or teach them a different method, or get them accustomed to a different role, or etc.

Even if they KNOW the game and the raid, they don't know it the GROUP'S way. And that sub-20 minute quickie then turns into that half-day. It sucks.

But, if nothing else there's still LFG's and the like, but they're pretty rough too. I guess it's all about luck nowadays...

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by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Monday, January 13, 2025, 16:56 (8 days ago) @ Morpheus

I've been pretty eager to try and raid with people here but I'm just not sure how to connect with anyone. I think over the years, and through the participation droughts, people have developed their go-to groups and now communicated outside of the forum or clan chat - which makes it difficult for anyone new to participate.

-SR


EXACTLY, word for word, and that's another nail in the coffin, at least socially. Out of a clan, or a group, or even a website like this...say, 6-10 people make up a stable consistent fireteam, and go through [x] raid as routinely as brushing your teeth. Everybody knows what to do, what role they want to be, what challenges, etc. And as a result, they get it done in less than 20 minutes.

"Same time next week? See ya there." Revolutions.

20 minutes? Never. But admittedly, I was probably the limiting factor.

Let's talk about how dead this place is.

by Simpsons Rule @, Tuesday, January 14, 2025, 10:28 (8 days ago) @ Morpheus

EXACTLY, word for word, and that's another nail in the coffin, at least socially. Out of a clan, or a group, or even a website like this...say, 6-10 people make up a stable consistent fireteam, and go through [x] raid as routinely as brushing your teeth. Everybody knows what to do, what role they want to be, what challenges, etc. And as a result, they get it done in less than 20 minutes.

"Same time next week? See ya there." Revolutions.

And while I completely understand that, and I guess there isn't really anything inherently wrong with it, bam there goes the social aspect. You and your raid buddies are in your fireteam bubble. You invite someone new, the machine comes to a grinding halt trying to teach them how, or teach them a different method, or get them accustomed to a different role, or etc.

Even if they KNOW the game and the raid, they don't know it the GROUP'S way. And that sub-20 minute quickie then turns into that half-day. It sucks.

Yup, and I've been in those kinds of groups before so I get it. Like you said, there isn't anything inherently wrong with it, but it does create a kind of barrier to entry that's difficult to overcome.


-SR

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by Claude Errera @, Tuesday, January 14, 2025, 15:16 (8 days ago) @ Simpsons Rule

Yup, and I've been in those kinds of groups before so I get it. Like you said, there isn't anything inherently wrong with it, but it does create a kind of barrier to entry that's difficult to overcome.

You (and Stephanie Plum) make up one pair of a want-to-raid sextet. I'm pretty sure Vorpal and Shovelface make up another pair. Finding the last two should be simple (I'm happy to be one)... it's finding the TIME that everyone can make it that is tough.

Everyone's an adult now, and everyone has other commitments. It's rough. :(

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by squidnh3, Tuesday, January 14, 2025, 18:14 (7 days ago) @ Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316)

Previously they were at my house in Farmington Hills, but I moved so now they will most likely be at one of my friends' in either Novi or Livonia. It's always on Black Friday, although we did talk about doing a spring one this year.

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by Cody Miller @, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Tuesday, January 14, 2025, 21:00 (7 days ago) @ Claude Errera

Everyone's an adult now, and everyone has other commitments. It's rough. :(

Dude, haven't you been an adult for like… 80 bazillion years at this point?

Let's talk about how dead this place is.

by Claude Errera @, Wednesday, January 15, 2025, 09:30 (7 days ago) @ Cody Miller

Everyone's an adult now, and everyone has other commitments. It's rough. :(


Dude, haven't you been an adult for like… 80 bazillion years at this point?

I would argue that I'm the last non-adult here, actually.

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by ManKitten, The Stugotz is strong in me., Wednesday, January 15, 2025, 14:01 (7 days ago) @ Claude Errera
edited by ManKitten, Wednesday, January 15, 2025, 14:50

Everyone's an adult now, and everyone has other commitments. It's rough. :(


Dude, haven't you been an adult for like… 80 bazillion years at this point?


I would argue that I'm the last non-adult here, actually.

I still remember all "Wu is old" jokes constantly being tossed out. And now I consider, "We are all probably older now, than Wu was then."

We are all old. Jokes over.

Are the Geezer Gamers still a clan? Asking for an older friend.

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Holy geez I just looked at the date of my first post on HBO. It was literally half my lifetime ago.

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by Revenant1988 ⌂ @, How do I forum?, Wednesday, January 15, 2025, 14:42 (7 days ago) @ squidnh3

In a positive note I've been saving up to do some major work on my basement and the goal is to turn that into a LAN space. Will people still show up for Halo? What other old\new games? Who knows. I'll figure that out when I get there.


You still in Ohio? My friends and I still do a Halo LAN once a year, it's still a lot of fun.

I am indeed. Glad you've got some folks to do it with. I'm gonna have to cultivate a group lol

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by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Thursday, January 16, 2025, 09:13 (6 days ago) @ Claude Errera

Yup, and I've been in those kinds of groups before so I get it. Like you said, there isn't anything inherently wrong with it, but it does create a kind of barrier to entry that's difficult to overcome.


You (and Stephanie Plum) make up one pair of a want-to-raid sextet. I'm pretty sure Vorpal and Shovelface make up another pair. Finding the last two should be simple (I'm happy to be one)... it's finding the TIME that everyone can make it that is tough.

Everyone's an adult now, and everyone has other commitments. It's rough. :(

Usually willing with notice (and sometimes without).

Planning requires negotiation, but we gotta have specifics to start. Simpsons Rule, you have mentioned being interested in Crota and that the weekends are good. What time? Which day? I can recruit.

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just saw the event...

by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Thursday, January 16, 2025, 09:17 (6 days ago) @ Kermit

Seeing who I can get.

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by Cody Miller @, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Thursday, January 16, 2025, 10:04 (6 days ago) @ Revenant1988

In a positive note I've been saving up to do some major work on my basement and the goal is to turn that into a LAN space. Will people still show up for Halo? What other old\new games? Who knows. I'll figure that out when I get there.


You still in Ohio? My friends and I still do a Halo LAN once a year, it's still a lot of fun.


I am indeed. Glad you've got some folks to do it with. I'm gonna have to cultivate a group lol

If I'm in Michigan at the time count me interested.

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by Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316) ⌂ @, Detroit, Thursday, January 16, 2025, 20:05 (5 days ago) @ squidnh3

Previously they were at my house in Farmington Hills, but I moved so now they will most likely be at one of my friends' in either Novi or Livonia. It's always on Black Friday, although we did talk about doing a spring one this year.

Sounds good, if you let in outsiders I'd certainly pop in.

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It's 4:30 am

by ManKitten, The Stugotz is strong in me., Friday, January 17, 2025, 02:33 (5 days ago) @ ManKitten


I still remember all "Wu is old" jokes constantly being tossed out. And now I consider, "We are all probably older now, than Wu was then."

This woke me up realizing I'm pretty sure I said it wrong, thus making it rather insulting. Hope it wasn't taken as such.

It's 4:30 am

by Claude Errera @, Friday, January 17, 2025, 07:00 (5 days ago) @ ManKitten


I still remember all "Wu is old" jokes constantly being tossed out. And now I consider, "We are all probably older now, than Wu was then."


This woke me up realizing I'm pretty sure I said it wrong, thus making it rather insulting. Hope it wasn't taken as such.

Not even a little bit.

You're probably not even wrong!

When I started hosting lanfests, I was the father of 3 children, the oldest was 9. The youngest person to show up at the lanfest was 15. The jokes have always had a basis in reality. And although I'm offended by the universe for the indignities foisted upon me with age, I don't have any problem with people pointing out that I am, indeed, older than the many of the people I share interests with.

(You're all good. :) )

Let's talk about how dead this place is.

by Simpsons Rule @, Friday, January 17, 2025, 09:40 (5 days ago) @ Claude Errera

Everyone's an adult now, and everyone has other commitments. It's rough. :(

I absolutely get it. That's kind of why I was hoping there was an active Discord around for scheduling purposes.

-SR

just saw the event...

by Simpsons Rule @, Friday, January 17, 2025, 09:44 (5 days ago) @ Kermit

Seeing who I can get.

Thanks! I meant to make a post to bring attention to it, but I got distracted. I have a fair bit of flexibility for times on Fridays, Saturdays, and Sunday, and I'm happy to negotiate specifics based on other people's availability.

-SR

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It's 4:30 am

by Coaxkez, Friday, January 17, 2025, 11:36 (5 days ago) @ Claude Errera

The Bungie community is lucky to have a man of your dignity and grace in such a high position.

😂

by Claude Errera @, Friday, January 17, 2025, 12:29 (5 days ago) @ Coaxkez

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I have found it useful for finding a time.

by Vortech @, A Fourth Wheel, Friday, January 17, 2025, 20:09 (4 days ago) @ Simpsons Rule

I have found it useful for finding a time.

by Claude Errera @, Saturday, January 18, 2025, 11:15 (4 days ago) @ Vortech

https://crab.fit

Wow. That seems like a fantastic tool! (Not just for raiding. ;) )

I have found it useful for finding a time.

by Simpsons Rule @, Tuesday, January 21, 2025, 06:56 (22 hours, 51 minutes ago) @ Vortech

https://crab.fit

I like it - but I wish you could independently select times from specific days of the week. For example, I wish I could select Fridays from 8:00 PM Eastern to 11:30 PM Eastern, Saturdays from 9:30 AM Eastern to 11:30 PM Eastern, and Sunday from 8:00 AM Eastern to 2:00 PM Eastern (or something like that).

Unless I'm missing something, the time you select applies to all days of the week you select.

-SR

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