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Can we speculate like the good ol' days? (Destiny)

by ManKitten, The Stugotz is strong in me., Thursday, June 29, 2023, 11:10 (513 days ago)

I'll throw a *SP* out, just in case.

After the finale this week. What do we think will happen? I'm still trying to figure out how the Vex and time travel all fit into this. All of the "enemies" in Destiny have had a purpose and goal...except the Vex.

Fallen: Reclaim the light and blessing of the Traveler.
Cabal: War mongers bent on total domination and resource control.
Hive: Cursed to destroy all things for the sake of survival.
Vex: To find the correct timeline...for something?

We learned that The Witness was basically an entire race embodied into one entity.

We've allied with Fallen, Cabal, and now apparently looking to ally with Hive? to stop The Witness.

So what of the Vex?

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Can we speculate like the good ol' days?

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Thursday, June 29, 2023, 15:49 (512 days ago) @ ManKitten

So what of the Vex?

Something something Final Shape. Remember Osiris's multiple futures where the Vex is all there is?

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Can we speculate like the good ol' days?

by ManKitten, The Stugotz is strong in me., Friday, June 30, 2023, 14:16 (512 days ago) @ ZackDark

So what of the Vex?


Something something Final Shape. Remember Osiris's multiple futures where the Vex is all there is?

How many timelines did we see? I just remember the happy pappy 1970s flower past timeline vex one and then the futuristic, sun is dead, everything is dead vex one.

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Can we speculate like the good ol' days?

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Friday, June 30, 2023, 17:18 (511 days ago) @ ManKitten

How many we saw? 3.

How many Osiris saw? Millions, the vast majority with only the Vex standing.

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It's finally time to post my bad fanfiction.

by CyberKN ⌂ @, Oh no, Destiny 2 is bad, Thursday, June 29, 2023, 16:15 (512 days ago) @ ManKitten

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\\\To: CMDR Zavala
\\\From: GDN K-14

The Vanguard’s priorities are woefully misplaced.

I don't ascribe it to malice; they simply do not understand the grave reality of the situation. Calus, Eramis, Savaathun, the “Witness” - all of them pale in comparison to the menace that stirs beneath the crust of Venus, to Atheon.

Atheon.

Over Time’s Conflux, there is no victory; only an unending stalemate. The omnipresent threat represented by the Vex is absolute. They do not perceive time as we do, to them it is malleable, a vast ocean that they have already explored and conquered long before we ever imagined they might exist.

The question is often asked “If the Vex have such power, why do they not simply wield it to eradicate humanity at a time and place when it was at its most weakened?”

My belief is that they don’t see the point. They have a singular, far more pressing objective to devote their resources to - and from their perspective, they are about to achieve it.

The Vault represents the culmination of a path; for untold aeons, the Vex have slaved away with malevolent purpose, an nigh-endless sequence of calculations embedded within calculations, with a simple, terrible goal: to weave their essences into the fabric of reality so that the line between them and everything else is indistinguishable.

Think about the processing power of one of our city’s supercomputers. Now imagine what technological advancements we might make to augment and multiply that power over tens, or hundreds of millennia. Now imagine converting practically all the matter on a moon, or a planet, into the components required to build these titans of computation. And then doing it again, and again, and again until a thousand worlds are churning through probabilities and searching for the solutions to your goal.

This is the capacity of the Vex. This is what we face. This is our doom. And yet…

What forces led us to discover the Vault, the greatest triumph of the Vex, none of us here know. But we do know this: It is here that we can stop them.

In this sliver of reality, Atheon is vulnerable. He is assembled by the Vault (nurtured, perhaps, is a better term), to be the tool the Vex can use to achieve mastery over time, space, everything. The apex of their experiments and creativity, if you can call it that. But at this moment, in this singular timeframe we access when we enter the Vault, he is not so powerful that we cannot undo his construction.

This is where the preparation and mastery of the Vex gifts them a significant advantage; Time does not flow in a linear manner within the confines of that space. From our perspective, Atheon is being compiled at every point in the grand swath of time, simultaneously. If even once he is able to complete the work of the Vex unopposed, that’s it. They win. All we have fought for in Humanity’s meagre existence is for naught. Anything that is not them is less than a memory. If nothing else, the Vex are patient, confident in their eventual victory.

And so we raid the Vault. Today. Tomorrow. Next week, next year, we send Atheon to the depths, over and over again. Given enough time, we may discover how to combat their plans some other way, some genius solution of technology or trickery.

Until then, we must bear this burden; Prove to the Vex that in the here and now, Guardians make their own Fate.

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\\\To: GDN K-14
\\\From: CMDR Zavala

You’re right, I don’t understand it. I don’t think any of us can.

Regardless, your attached request for the allocation of a dedicated six-man fireteam has been approved. We may be able to funnel more resources into this matter at a later date, but I personally don’t see that happening for a long, long time.

Tell Atheon I said “Hello.”

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It's finally time to post my bad fanfiction.

by Robot Chickens, Thursday, June 29, 2023, 21:33 (512 days ago) @ CyberKN

I love this

What he said

by Claude Errera @, Friday, June 30, 2023, 11:04 (512 days ago) @ Robot Chickens

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Thank you for the kind words.

by CyberKN ⌂ @, Oh no, Destiny 2 is bad, Friday, June 30, 2023, 13:23 (512 days ago) @ Claude Errera

I penned this about a year ago, spurned by frustration with the ongoing plot of Destiny and how it feels like Bungie's one trick is throwing despot after despot at us.

The Vex are so cool and under-utilized. In my head-canon, the Vault of Glass is the final boss of the Destiny universe.

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Thank you for the kind words.

by Cody Miller @, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Friday, June 30, 2023, 17:07 (511 days ago) @ CyberKN

In my head-canon, the Vault of Glass is the final boss of the Destiny universe.

*CruelLegacy dances.*

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Very unbad fanfiction

by Kermit @, Raleigh, NC, Friday, June 30, 2023, 07:39 (512 days ago) @ CyberKN

Also, my body is ready.

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If Only Lance Were Here To Read It.

by Morpheus @, High Charity, Saturday, July 01, 2023, 19:23 (510 days ago) @ CyberKN

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What do we think will happen? | Season 21 Edition

by INSANEdrive, ಥ_ಥ | f(ಠ‿↼)z | ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ| ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, Sunday, July 02, 2023, 09:16 (510 days ago) @ ManKitten

I'll throw a *SP* out, just in case.

After the finale this week. What do we think will happen? I'm still trying to figure out how the Vex and time travel all fit into this. All of the "enemies" in Destiny have had a purpose and goal...except the Vex.

Fallen: Reclaim the light and blessing of the Traveler.
Cabal: War mongers bent on total domination and resource control.
Hive: Cursed to destroy all things for the sake of survival.
Vex: To find the correct timeline...for something? [INSANEdrive Note: Look up "Maya Sundaresh".]

We learned that The Witness was basically an entire race embodied into one entity.

We've allied with Fallen, Cabal, and now apparently looking to ally with Hive? to stop The Witness.

So what of the Vex?

What I think:

I wanna note real quick that if it wasn't for this trailer, I'd still have some bits and pieces that I wouldn't know what to fill in. But thanks to that, and the recent game changer story info, I think I have a decent idea of how this is going to shake out. I wanna give props to Bungie for not having "Light" and "Dark" being some morality construct, as we certainly have plenty of those in games, which is fine, but... as a result, what all this "Paracausality" blah blah ends up being is...

By the way, for those out of the loop, the darkness is "heart" in this instance, though in game it's more about constructs of ones own sentience. Hot-take: I think ghosts are actually darkness based, not light based, or maybe even a mix of the two. You know, the whole thing of "Guardians don't remember" is telling of other in world things.

As for the Witness, well... if going to be some standard "I don't like X things so therefor lets get god-like power and shape the world in my own ideals" blah blah, well than think Thanos, but more superheros. Oh my goodness wouldn't it be cool if Bungie could allow the back end up and up for some PURELY ONE OFF, 12 man raid for this madness?! #NotGoingToHappen

Anywho, it's a classic "dude(s) want a purpose, so they make their purpose to destroy all ability of purpose" jumbo. Overcomplication of meaning, blah blah, when the truth is basically "Just don't be an asshole", but that would require introspective and... yada yada yada. What do you do with yet another flawed god?

“You never said a thing to me,” I snarled. “Not once. You never told me I was doing wrong. At least Clarity sends me dreams—the exobody and the eel. At least it shows me what I can become.”

“You think Clarity sent those dreams? Why would it speak to you, when you are dead and furthest from its influence?”

“Liar.” I howled. “You never did a thing to help me. Not when my son died. Not when my granddaughter fell ill. I had to do it all myself. You never even spoke.”

“The best voices,” she said, with infinite grief and unending hope, “never let themselves be heard at all. This lesson is worth teaching again and again. The choice is never mine. It is always yours.”

~"NOTE-THIRD VISION" of Clovis Bray's Logbook — Missing Pages

How does it end? No idea, short of this... Cataclysmic Change. I'm talking "Thanos wins a 2nd time, and doesn't remember" big. They have to, Bungie that is, reboot things after this saga wraps. This is me cheating a bit, as "it's just a game bro" which allows for certain presumptions to occur. And one of those presumptions is... how do you put the genie back in the bottle? Well, one way to do it is... the genie never left. OR! Things are so new that... there was never the bottle in the first place since, keep in mind, "Paracausality". It is because it is to be, not because there is a reason to be. And in the hope of this far too stretched, far away thing... we'll find ourselves "once again" on that hill. The same, yet, different.

"We have to get moving", our Pouka tells us, "The Kell of Wolves has our scent, and his arc abilities are not to be discounted. And this blizzard does not help our chances. We have to get to The Last City."

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Granted, this is one of the farthest and most presumptive overreaching stretches I can have short a discussion with someone at Bungie, whom would hold in their hand my NDA'd John Hancock, but then I couldn't say anything anyway. All in all, I don't see this game continuing without some sort of mystery, and solving the magic is a big deal. As far as I'm aware, we still don't know what "The Nine" are all about, but... I just don't see that as a draw. How do you be bigger than Thanos? Marvel is still trying to figure that shit out, and I don't think they are going to do it. You can't beat theme fatigue, and if you try to beat fatigue, you just drop dead. It's... the same problem as Bungie has, right? The stream of content model?

And... that's as far as I'm going to stretch as if I go any deeper, I would only be providing concepts and off-topic yammering. Also, I'm forcing myself to cut a lot of stuff I'd want to write, since I have other things I want to do today. Thus:

TL;DR: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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