
I'm legit surprised at how hyped people were for this (Gaming)
I think you are right. The game appears to use the aesthetic in a fairly superficial way.
There was a controversy prerelease about the Chromanticore ads. The ad depicts a woman with a very prominent penis in an ad for an energy drink with the tag line "Mix it up", seeming to imply that gender identity is somethign you can just pick and choose on a whim. The drink name, Chromanticore, seems like a combination of chromosome and Manticore. The manticore being a fictional beast that is cobbled together from various animal parts. Uh, yikes. But to defend it the artist said something along the lines of "it's just a fictional ad, and I like the way this person looks".
I think that kind of encapsulates everything about the game. They just like the way it looks. But under I don't really see the setting re-enforcing themes, of having things be explored with much depth. The game is loaded with queer and trans imagery , and yet it's all aesthetic. I've met only one character who MIGHT be coded as queer, and he's a giant degenerate. There's no real exploration of what body modification does to gender identity and the role of queer people in society (a cyberpunk game that actually does this is Red Strings Club). It all seems there to give the illusion of edge, which itself is kind of troubling.
I kind of think in general, history has proven the ethos of cyberpunk to just be flat out wrong. The idea that technology is the equalizer - that rougue hackers can win the hearts and minds of the public and fight the corporate machine with their intrusions. The idea that networking and technology lets you be who you are. That things would be okay if the TRUTH got out. That's… kind of bullshit isn't it? We're seeing how the real way to fight back against the 'man' is to disconnect. Delete your facebook. Stop performing on social media. Buy local and not from Amazon. Get off your computer and organize grassroots. The idea of hackers changing the world seems just like another narcissistic fantasy from those who are themselves disconnected from reality. Why else would hackers adopt aliases that they use everywhere? To create an identity. The identity they wish they were. As time goes on the genre seems as a means of escape and wish fulfillment rather than prescriptive action.
This sort of superficial quest to define your own identity is embraced by the game. Drinks get named after legendary mercs who go out in a blaze of glory. Jackie and others talk about wanting to "be remembered" so they can live on forever. As if outside the little community of crooks this matters at all. As you say, there's not much thought given to the social situations the game presents beyond spectacle or challenge.
I am somewhat impressed with the depth of some of the characters… however this doesn't have much to do with the 'cyberpunk' setting or theming of the game.
Complete thread:
- Cyberpunk looks like hot dogshit. -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-09, 22:41
- Cyberpunk looks like hot dogshit. - Cody Miller, 2020-12-09, 23:00
- Oh dear - stabbim, 2020-12-10, 08:11
- *CP on 7 y.o. console w/o d1 patches looks like hot dogshit.
- Speedracer513, 2020-12-10, 08:15
- Oh come on. -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 09:21
- Oh come on. - Cody Miller, 2020-12-10, 09:33
- Oh come on. - EffortlessFury, 2020-12-10, 14:07
- Oh come on. -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 09:21
- Cyberpunk looks like hot dogshit. -
Claude Errera,
2020-12-10, 09:31
- Cyberpunk looks like hot dogshit. - cheapLEY, 2020-12-10, 09:40
- Crowbcat Is Gonna Have SO Much Fun With This...
- Morpheus, 2020-12-10, 11:53
- Kewl Bugs (NSFW) - Cody Miller, 2020-12-10, 17:12
- Cyberpunk—definitely wait. -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-11, 16:15
- Cyberpunk—definitely wait. -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-12, 17:07
- Cyberpunk—definitely wait. -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-12, 17:53
- Cyberpunk—definitely wait. -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-12, 18:22
- Cyberpunk—definitely wait. - cheapLEY, 2020-12-12, 21:04
- Cyberpunk—definitely wait. -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-12, 18:22
- Cyberpunk—definitely wait. -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-12, 17:53
- Cyberpunk—definitely wait. -
stabbim,
2020-12-13, 21:50
- Cyberpunk—definitely wait. - cheapLEY, 2020-12-14, 07:22
- Relief comes in February - Cody Miller, 2020-12-14, 11:57
- Cyberpunk—definitely wait. -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-12, 17:07
- CDPR is giving bonuses despite MC scores - Vortech, 2020-12-11, 18:44
- Cyberpunk patch. -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-12, 17:54
- Non Binary Choices -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-13, 21:19
- Non Binary Choices -
ZackDark,
2020-12-14, 07:21
- Non Binary Choices - Cody Miller, 2020-12-14, 09:11
- Non Binary Choices -
ZackDark,
2020-12-14, 07:21
- Non Binary Choices -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-13, 21:19
- Cyberpunk is hot dogshit even on PS4 Pro -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-13, 18:33
- Performance Hierarchy -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-14, 17:40
- Performance Hierarchy -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-14, 18:04
- Performance Hierarchy -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-14, 22:50
- Turns out, that is NOT the case... -
EffortlessFury,
2020-12-15, 07:12
- How much shittier can the situation get? lol
- Cody Miller, 2020-12-15, 09:02
- How much shittier can the situation get? lol -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-15, 09:40
- I'm legit surprised at how hyped people were for this -
kidtsunami,
2020-12-15, 09:49
- I'm legit surprised at how hyped people were for this -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-15, 10:06
- I'm legit surprised at how hyped people were for this -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-15, 10:48
- I'm legit surprised at how hyped people were for this -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-15, 11:17
- I'm legit surprised at how hyped people were for this - Cody Miller, 2020-12-15, 11:23
- I'm legit surprised at how hyped people were for this -
squidnh3,
2020-12-15, 13:18
- I'm legit surprised at how hyped people were for this -
marmot 1333,
2020-12-15, 14:00
- I'm legit surprised at how hyped people were for this -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-15, 14:35
- I'm legit surprised at how hyped people were for this - squidnh3, 2020-12-15, 15:14
- I'm legit surprised at how hyped people were for this - marmot 1333, 2020-12-15, 15:30
- Reminds me of a book. - slycrel, 2020-12-15, 20:48
- I'm legit surprised at how hyped people were for this -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-15, 14:35
- I'm legit surprised at how hyped people were for this -
marmot 1333,
2020-12-15, 14:00
- I'm legit surprised at how hyped people were for this -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-15, 11:17
- I'm legit surprised at how hyped people were for this -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-15, 10:48
- I'm legit surprised at how hyped people were for this -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-15, 10:06
- I'm legit surprised at how hyped people were for this -
kidtsunami,
2020-12-15, 09:49
- How much shittier can the situation get? lol -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-15, 09:40
- Guess I'll chime in now. -
INSANEdrive,
2020-12-15, 15:50
- Guess I'll chime in now. -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-15, 16:18
- Guess I'll chime in now. -
Speedracer513,
2020-12-15, 20:13
- Guess I'll chime in now. -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-16, 00:26
- That is not at all how I interpreted this thread
- ZackDark, 2020-12-16, 06:14
- Guess I'll chime in now. - cheapLEY, 2020-12-16, 15:11
- That is not at all how I interpreted this thread
- Guess I'll chime in now. -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-16, 00:26
- Guess I'll chime in now. -
Speedracer513,
2020-12-15, 20:13
- Guess I'll chime in now. -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-15, 16:18
- How much shittier can the situation get? lol
- Turns out, that is NOT the case... -
EffortlessFury,
2020-12-15, 07:12
- Performance Hierarchy -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-14, 22:50
- Performance Hierarchy -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-14, 18:04
- Performance Hierarchy -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-14, 17:40
- Sony offering refunds -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-17, 17:28
- Sony offering refunds -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-17, 17:43
- Sony offering refunds -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-17, 20:25
- Sony offering refunds - cheapLEY, 2020-12-17, 20:40
- MS now too, and Best Buy for Physical copies - Cody Miller, 2020-12-18, 15:40
- Sony offering refunds -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-17, 20:25
- Sony offering refunds -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-17, 17:43
- Hacking is very very strong -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-20, 00:05
- Hacking is very very strong -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-20, 06:44
- Hacking is very very strong -
ZackDark,
2020-12-20, 07:12
- Hacking is very very strong -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-20, 09:49
- This.
- ZackDark, 2020-12-20, 11:53
- This.
- Hacking is very very strong -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-20, 09:49
- Hacking is very very strong -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-20, 09:04
- Hacking is very very strong -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-20, 12:17
- Hacking is very very strong - Cody Miller, 2020-12-20, 13:59
- Hacking is very very strong -
Kermit,
2020-12-20, 15:08
- Hacking is very very strong - cheapLEY, 2020-12-20, 16:32
- Hacking is very very strong - cheapLEY, 2020-12-20, 20:06
- Hacking is very very strong -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-20, 12:17
- Hacking is very very strong -
ZackDark,
2020-12-20, 07:12
- Hacking is very very strong -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-20, 20:44
- Hacking is very very strong -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-20, 22:20
- Hacking is very very strong - cheapLEY, 2020-12-23, 17:14
- Hacking is very very strong -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-20, 22:20
- Hacking is very very strong -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-20, 06:44