Hackneyed af (Destiny)
Bungie has been riding that trite concept for a bit too long at this point. Ghaul, Uldren, the emperor, the Fanatic, even the Darkness itself! It's bland at this point, because the "hero of their own story" angle is predicated on the villain's ignorance, or mistaken perspective.
You must dismiss as bland all villainy then, because evil is itself ignorance or mistaken perspective.
In my opinion, good antagonists are one (or both) of the following:
1. Built with an emotionally comprehensive and understandable psychology
2. Metaphors for our fears or anxieties.
One is not nessesarily better than the other (for instance, Michael Meyers is infinitely more interesting as a villain in the original Halloween than in the screen vomit that was Rob Zombie's remake that gave him a backstory).
But from your post it sounds that you simply want more of #2. But this then goes back to the real question of why Destiny's story keeps failing:
What is Destiny about?
Complete thread:
- The Crow -
Korny,
2019-12-10, 13:37
- Great stuff. - Kermit, 2019-12-10, 13:47
- Crackpot Talk Ahoy! -
ManKitten,
2019-12-10, 14:55
- Crackpot Talk Ahoy! -
ZackDark,
2019-12-10, 17:30
- Crackpot Talk Ahoy! -
breitzen,
2019-12-11, 07:29
- Again? -
Malagate,
2019-12-11, 11:23
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
Korny,
2019-12-11, 11:46
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
ManKitten,
2019-12-11, 12:42
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
breitzen,
2019-12-11, 14:54
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
ManKitten,
2019-12-12, 06:14
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-12, 06:30
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-12, 08:06
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-12, 10:11
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-12, 10:21
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-12, 10:25
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-12, 10:44
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. - Cody Miller, 2019-12-12, 10:58
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-12, 10:44
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. - cheapLEY, 2019-12-12, 11:30
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-12, 10:25
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-12, 10:21
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. - cheapLEY, 2019-12-12, 11:23
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-12, 10:11
- Maybe... -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-12-17, 10:28
- If that's true... - Claude Errera, 2019-12-17, 15:55
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-12, 08:06
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
cheapLEY,
2019-12-12, 06:30
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
ManKitten,
2019-12-12, 06:14
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
breitzen,
2019-12-11, 14:54
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. - EffortlessFury, 2019-12-11, 13:04
- But what about Kylo Ren? -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-12, 11:05
- But what about Kylo Ren? - Harmanimus, 2019-12-12, 14:31
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
ManKitten,
2019-12-11, 12:42
- The villain is always the hero of their own story. -
breitzen,
2019-12-11, 14:49
- +1 - Kermit, 2019-12-12, 06:48
- The villain is always the hero of their own story. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-12, 07:47
- The villain is always the hero of their own story. -
Robot Chickens,
2019-12-13, 07:33
- The villain is always the hero of their own story. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-13, 08:55
- The villain is always the hero of their own story. - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-12-13, 09:33
- The villain is always the hero of their own story. -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-13, 08:55
- The villain is always the hero of their own story. -
Robot Chickens,
2019-12-13, 07:33
- The villain is always the hero of their own story. - Cody Miller, 2019-12-12, 08:40
- Hackneyed af -
Korny,
2019-12-12, 14:45
- Hackneyed af -
Ragashingo,
2019-12-12, 15:06
- Related: Great read regarding the Fallen -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-12, 15:25
- Related: Great read regarding the Fallen - Ragashingo, 2019-12-12, 22:35
- Related: Great read regarding the Fallen -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-12-12, 15:25
- Hackneyed af -
Cody Miller,
2019-12-12, 15:32
- Hackneyed af - Kermit, 2019-12-13, 07:18
- Hackneyed af - stabbim, 2019-12-12, 21:19
- Hackneyed af -
Ragashingo,
2019-12-12, 15:06
- There will never be a redemption arc for Uldren. -
Korny,
2019-12-11, 11:46
- Again? -
Malagate,
2019-12-11, 11:23
- Crackpot Talk Ahoy! -
breitzen,
2019-12-11, 07:29
- Crackpot Talk Ahoy! - Pyromancy, 2019-12-12, 23:25
- Crackpot Talk Ahoy! -
ZackDark,
2019-12-10, 17:30
- Love it. - breitzen, 2019-12-11, 07:31