Too many button presses to get to it.

It's one more button and two of the three buttons you press at the same time, so in reality it the same 2 actions.

Everything is clumped together. Multiple pages. I just want to find those gambit bounties I picked up yesterday but they are split between two pages. The sorting buttons aren't useful. Why is catnip in my pursuits page? Why is the chalice and reckoning mote oven on the pursuits tab? Every time I open the tab I have to go hunting them. And why can't I delete the mysterious box quest after I have already finished it on another character?! Ugh.

Yeah, I still don't know how to think about this yet. I think it's ultimately going to be better, but it's by no means the best. There are certain things, like the things you mentioned that I don't even want on there.

Bungie used to be great at UI. What happened?

First of all, pin stuff like the Synthesizer and the Chalice to the top. Second, split the screen in half somehow to separate quests with multiple steps or longer timeframes (like pinnacle and exotic quests) on one side and bounties on the other.

Likewise, what’s up with the new shader icons? On one level they are much better, because it actually shows you when a shader is going to change a material texture. But they all look like they’ve been run through a bad Instagram filter. Now they all blend together on the page. It’s much less readable overall, even if the icons are better individually.

I was unable to use the left and right dpad for the Friends list.

I agree it's just so much info with the texts. I think removing the text, would a) make it one page, and make it easier to see.

I like the suggestion of pinning important ones to the top, etc. As someone who works in UI, sometimes, it's very confusing and overwhelming to look at.

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It's a change, and it takes time to get used to change but I was hoping that moving it to the Destination section would speed up the load time. It didn't. So instead of pushing start* then bumping over, I hit select* then bump over...so it's not really an upgrade.

Perhaps it's a change that's part of a rollout to gradually get us used to more changes coming down the road instead of just throwing us into the deep end of a total UI overhaul?

*Yes, I still call those buttons Start and Select and I always will.

The only thing that needed to happen was breaking the things labeled as "pursuits" into different categories, like "Quests" and "Bounties". That didn't happen, so this change was a complete waste of time.

Too many button presses to get to it. Everything is clumped together. Multiple pages. I just want to find those gambit bounties I picked up yesterday but they are split between two pages. The sorting buttons aren't useful. Why is catnip in my pursuits page? Why is the chalice and reckoning mote oven on the pursuits tab? Every time I open the tab I have to go hunting them. And why can't I delete the mysterious box quest after I have already finished it on another character?! Ugh.

So I'm clearly in the minority in that I'm on the whole positive about the pursuits change. (not just on this forum but in talking with people while I play and looking around the web at large) I'm not saying it's perfect, but I think it is better and the problems with it for me are all the same problems it had before (and almost certainly stem from underlying systems, which is why they carried over through the UI change). Not to tell anyone they are wrong. You feel how you feel, and UI can be an individual thing with no right answer for everyone, but I do think there at least reasons why for the examples where people are asking why, and I think there are major upgrades going uncommented upon.

## Too many button presses:
It's 2, right? Same as before? You sometimes need to hold the button down, so that slows me down sometimes comparatively, but it's not a big change for me. At the same time, Consumables are now one step more accessible. The thing that slows me down is that I have never once not gone to the old location first. I assume that will change after a couple months of me failing to remember the change, though. I do sometimes need to press extra buttons to find a specific pursuit, because they spread to multiple pages, though…

## Multiple pages:
I see this as a cost, but how is the cost of multiple pages not overwhelmed by the benefit of MULTIPLE PAGES?! no more running out of space for bounties and pursuits. No more trips back to the tower just to pick up the bounties that would not fit. When they created on-demand bounty turn in it was often canceled out by the fact that you needed to go mack to the tower to replace them. And that has been more and more common as they added more and more things to pursuits category:

## Why are things there?
Because they were there before. Because they are pursuits. I understand and agree with the argument that things like cookie ovens and gambit node recombinators and chalices and other things* should not be pursuits, and that it was a MacGuyvering of the existing game engine to do a thing that didn't fit within the scope of the live team/season pass release. This is a biz/dev and software strategy questions that you can think they got wrong (I probably agree, but also know that I don't have all the information to really understand the decision) but it's not a problem created by this particular UI change. I can appreciate the upgraded condiments on the burger even though it didn't change the meat.

## Everything blends together:
This seems like a similar thing to the one above — the complaint is that it made things better, but not better-er enough — EXCEPT, this is purely about UI/UX. I think that makes it more reasonable as a complaint. After all, if you're going to tear stuff up and move it around, how you move it around is more likely to be about what you chose to do than what you were able to do. The good news is by moving pursuits to a separate tab, rather than a page shared with shaders and consumables, etc. there's some room for them to keep working on this. Even better, now that there is a filter button in addition to a sort, it would be even easier than making a second vertical page to add a filter for the doodads. it's not check a box and hit build easy, but it feels like its within reach as an imperfect refinement to an imperfect solution that would — for all of its fundamental flaws — make people have a better time with the game. Better sort and filter options could improve a lot of this stuff.

## dedicated spaces for crafting doodads:
I pretty much addressed this above, but the problem with getting too specialized for these things are that they were kludgy already. and, apparently, it's a kluge they intend to keep using as each release seems to have a new one. Requiring an UI change to add them involves a lot of different departments getting added in and the whole point was they didn't have the resources to make a big change for it already, so…. I di think a separate vertical page would be simple and expandable enough that it's worth serious thought.

## no text:
I understand how it's cluttered and a lot of information all at once, but I just can't see how it's not better then requiring a mouse-over to even identify among a string of identical icons. And further, how - other then text - can you solve that problem? I can't keep all the names of gear straight, I'm not going to be able to memorize a different icon for every possible bounty and quest. This might be an area for improving readability through font/layout, but text on display has to be the right answer, yeah?

There are a lot of places where I see room for improvement, and AND, yeah, there's a LOT of things that we should be able to delete. (I didn't know about the mysterious box quest, and that's a problem. There are a lot of consumables that can only be consumed not deleted, and they have cool down timers so it makes it even more onerous.) but this seems like an improvement over all with groundwork laid to make it bearer more easily. I'm not trying to make anyone not complain, but hopefully give some perspective that lets those who want to, to focus on more actionable stuff rather than complaining about things that the UI folks probably are already annoyed by themselves.

Wow, all of that and I didn't even get to the new quests that are not tied to triumphs anymore, but still account-wide so totally UX expectation breaking but HEY! that means they allow you to track them in the HUD which you could not do with triumphs, so probably another imperfect UI improvement solving a pain point but held back by game system stuff…

* when I was talking with one of the DIM devs about this last night he called them the "doodads" that should be on the doodad page. I liked that and probably will adopt it as a term.

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I can immediately see some minor issues with scalability, but damn if it isn't gorgeous and effective.

I echo a lot of the complaints here. Some people have suggested that its the same number of button presses to get to the information and we'll get used to the new norm. I'm sympathetic to that, but I think it's bad because there are so many places you need to go to accomplish similar tasks. There are lots of things that do the same thing functionally, but they are stored in different location. For instance, bounties are things you do that you turn in and they get you loot after you've accomplished a particular task. They also have a triumphs that do the same thing and now they give you rewards you need to use to unlock pursuits. The invitation from the emperor requires that you unlock stuff scattered throughout the UI and it's not an easy transition. Add in load times and you spend a lot more time just navigating through stuff second-guessing your instincts.

Also, the pursuits are organized as poorly as D2Y1 vaults. Why are exotic quests, my talks with the emperor and my crucible bounties all jumbled together? Oh, there's a golden cup and a synthesizer there too? Sure, why not.

I miss the blade in the directer. There's been enough time that people don't associate it with the weekly checklist any more. Bring it back and put it to use.

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