We don’t know enough. (Destiny)

by ManKitten, The Stugotz is strong in me., Monday, March 25, 2019, 10:50 (2088 days ago) @ cheapLEY
edited by ManKitten, Monday, March 25, 2019, 10:55

Ikora’s group is literally called The Hidden. Sounds dangerously close to secret police to me.

We don’t know enough about how the Vanguard operates. We don’t know enough about the politics of the City. What little we know about the Hunter Vanguard selection process doesn’t paint a great picture of how leadership of humanity is selected. Where’s actual representation for the average citizen?

From the little we’ve seen of Zavala, he acts like his word is law.

The more I think about it, the less I actually trust or like the Vanguard. I do not doubt that they believe they are “good,” that they’re doing the best they can, or what they think is best. That doesn’t make them actually good or worth following though.

I really enjoyed this quest and it’s implications, but nobody is able to make an actually informed decision. We need more real information to really make a judgment.

Is it possible that The Vanguard is just as confused about everything as we are? During the Red War we saw Ghaul kill the Speaker, essentially steal power from the Traveler then the Traveler "wake up".

There was some lore card where the Vanguard was having a meeting, and people were calling out Zavala for doing so without the Speaker and Zavala was trying to figure out how to handle things without the Speaker.

So it could be that Zavala and Ikora are starting to realize that maybe the Traveler isn't what they thought and The Speaker was a "fraud" (just like Ghaul learned)

During the Warmind campaign, when we begin to enter Rasputin and Zavala is already there...perhaps he wasn't there to stop us, maybe he was just already there and he didn't catch us, we caught him! In the cutscene Ana asked "What were you trying to do with Rasputin" and Zavala responds "Rasputin is Vanguard business, not yours."

Zavala and Ikora have something going on in the background that involves the Drifter.

There was another lore card (or something) where Zavala and Ikora are having a private conversation and both admitting they aren't sure how to proceed.

So yeah, it seems like the narrative is that everyone, across the board, is questioning who is good, who is bad, what is what and who is whom.