
To add to this... (Destiny)
We are on our own largely. I don't think you realize the leash around everybody at Bungie now.
When I reached out to Bungie for my book, they didn't just tell me no thanks. They literally said this:
We wouldn't want anyone making any unauthorized statements.
So draconian sounding. This was after making it clear I would have no problem talking to people with a PR person in the room, with the questions and topics of interest given out ahead of time. Of course, this just means the people there who have spoken to me have done so in a completely unauthorized manner.This isn't just a special case. Many people have told me that the culture at Bungie has shifted. I believe it. Every community interaction is monitored and calculated. There's too much at stake. One slip up telling people they'll throw money at the screen, and the media is all over your shit.
Microsoft 'tolerated' Bungie because they thought they needed them for Halo. Activision has no such hang up. Eric Hirshberg used to be in advertising (he did the famous Who Killed Laura Palmer campaign for Twin Peaks), and there was absolutely tension about how to reach fans for maximum effectiveness. Notice how Bungie never posts here anymore.
Also fun fact: I had a letter to the webmaster published. It's on Archive.org somewhere. Search for 'carefree innocence'.
The above TL;DR is... Shareholders! - F you, I've got mine! Bungie is contractually "part" of Activation, a publicly traded company. Ok-Ok! Not the right words... but the jest is there. It's all connected and it's farly safe to say that no one wants to scare the money. On top of the... the internet of now is not the internet of then. Clearly.
There is nothing more Game Devs would LOVE to do then geek out about what they love, with out question. It's just... the environment often doesn't allow it. The internet has an amplifying effect that can turn anything into a hair trigger. It's a shame. Seeing posts like this, have always been a cool thing.
It's just a shame it's all been made to this.
Complete thread:
- Getting new fans into Bungie Culture is Critical. -
CommanderCartman,
2018-10-30, 04:30
- Getting new fans into Bungie Culture is Critical. -
narcogen,
2018-10-30, 06:25
- Getting new fans into Bungie Culture is Critical. -
CommanderCartman,
2018-10-30, 06:30
- Getting new fans into Bungie Culture is Critical. - narcogen, 2018-10-30, 07:21
- Your opinions are objectively correct. - Funkmon, 2018-10-30, 23:22
- Getting new fans into Bungie Culture is Critical. -
CommanderCartman,
2018-10-30, 06:35
- Getting new fans into Bungie Culture is Critical. -
narcogen,
2018-10-30, 07:21
- Getting new fans into Bungie Culture is Critical. -
CommanderCartman,
2018-10-30, 08:39
- Getting new fans into Bungie Culture is Critical. -
narcogen,
2018-10-30, 08:45
- The mini got an update! -
Kermit,
2018-10-30, 09:49
- The mini got an update! - narcogen, 2018-10-30, 10:23
- Been looking forward to this for quite some time...
- kidtsunami, 2018-10-30, 10:24
- Been looking forward to this for quite some time... - Kermit, 2018-10-30, 19:00
- The mini got an update! -
Kermit,
2018-10-30, 09:49
- Getting new fans into Bungie Culture is Critical. -
narcogen,
2018-10-30, 08:45
- Getting new fans into Bungie Culture is Critical. -
CommanderCartman,
2018-10-30, 08:39
- Getting new fans into Bungie Culture is Critical. - Cody Miller, 2018-11-06, 11:57
- Getting new fans into Bungie Culture is Critical. -
narcogen,
2018-10-30, 07:21
- Getting new fans into Bungie Culture is Critical. -
CommanderCartman,
2018-10-30, 06:30
- Getting new fans into Bungie Culture is Critical. -
ManKitten,
2018-10-30, 08:10
- Getting new fans into Bungie Culture is Critical. - CommanderCartman, 2018-10-30, 08:42
- Redditors nerfed the bungie-org star -
Schedonnardus,
2018-10-30, 10:17
- Redditors nerfed the bungie-org star - CommanderCartman, 2018-10-30, 10:50
- Redditors nerfed the bungie-org star -
ManKitten,
2018-10-30, 11:01
- Redditors nerfed the bungie-org star -
Kermit,
2018-10-31, 09:18
- Redditors nerfed the bungie-org star - CommanderCartman, 2018-10-31, 12:11
- Redditors nerfed the bungie-org star -
Kermit,
2018-10-31, 09:18
- Parent should be post of the year for DBO
- Blackt1g3r, 2018-10-30, 11:10
- This needs to be recorded.
- Claude Errera, 2018-10-30, 11:41
- IMPORTANT! RESPONSE FROM DEEJ! -
CommanderCartman,
2018-10-31, 00:33
- Disagree. -
Funkmon,
2018-10-31, 03:18
- You're not wrong
- CommanderCartman, 2018-10-31, 04:44
- You're not wrong
- Disagree. -
Funkmon,
2018-10-31, 03:18
- IMPORTANT! RESPONSE FROM DEEJ! -
CommanderCartman,
2018-10-31, 00:33
- Bravo!
- Kermit, 2018-10-30, 11:48
- I lold.
- Funkmon, 2018-10-30, 23:26
- Hey, ManKitten... -
Korny,
2018-10-30, 16:17
- Hey, ManKitten... -
ManKitten,
2018-10-31, 06:00
- There's a cat ghost for sale this week :)
- marmot 1333, 2018-10-31, 10:54
- There's a cat ghost for sale this week :) - ManKitten, 2018-10-31, 11:26
- There's a cat ghost for sale this week :)
- LL Cool M -
ManKitten,
2018-11-01, 05:53
- Lol
- CruelLEGACEY, 2018-11-01, 07:28
- Lol
- Hey, ManKitten... - ManKitten, 2018-11-06, 12:42
- Hey, ManKitten... -
ManKitten,
2018-10-31, 06:00
- Getting new fans into Bungie Culture is Critical. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-30, 21:42
- To add to this... -
INSANEdrive,
2018-10-30, 22:27
- Wait..Isn't Jason Jones the majority shareholder of Bungie? - CommanderCartman, 2018-10-31, 00:53
- CodyMiller wait what book? -
CommanderCartman,
2018-10-31, 00:46
- He's writing a book that may eventually be published -
Funkmon,
2018-10-31, 03:23
- I wanna read that book one day! - CommanderCartman, 2018-10-31, 04:45
- So what you're saying is....brothervance.jpg
- Malagate, 2018-10-31, 07:02
- He's writing a book that may eventually be published - Cody Miller, 2018-10-31, 20:35
- He's writing a book that may eventually be published -
Funkmon,
2018-10-31, 03:23
- To add to this... -
INSANEdrive,
2018-10-30, 22:27
- Those were simpler times -
aftercompletion,
2018-11-02, 15:38
- Yes they were. - INSANEdrive, 2018-11-02, 17:20
- Those were simpler times - Cody Miller, 2018-11-05, 10:49
- Look at Blizzcon -
cheapLEY,
2018-11-05, 07:37
- Look at Blizzcon -
marmot 1333,
2018-11-05, 09:36
- Look at Blizzcon -
Harmanimus,
2018-11-05, 10:00
- Look at Blizzcon -
Cody Miller,
2018-11-05, 10:43
- Look at Blizzcon - Harmanimus, 2018-11-05, 10:50
- There's way more to it than that -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-11-05, 13:40
- There's way more to it than that - Kermit, 2018-11-05, 14:11
- This misses the point. I’ll have to come back to it later.
- Harmanimus, 2018-11-05, 14:19
- Whaaaaat -
kidtsunami,
2018-11-06, 12:38
- Whaaaaat -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-11-06, 13:02
- Whaaaaat - Harmanimus, 2018-11-06, 13:25
- Whaaaaat -
kidtsunami,
2018-11-06, 13:43
- Whaaaaat -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-11-06, 13:57
- Whaaaaat -
kidtsunami,
2018-11-06, 14:15
- It's a part of being a citizen of something -
kidtsunami,
2018-11-06, 14:29
- It's a part of being a citizen of something -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-11-06, 14:59
- It's a part of being a citizen of something -
Harmanimus,
2018-11-06, 16:22
- It's a part of being a citizen of something - Cody Miller, 2018-11-06, 16:50
- It's a part of being a citizen of something -
Harmanimus,
2018-11-06, 16:22
- It's a part of being a citizen of something -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-11-06, 14:59
- It's a part of being a citizen of something -
kidtsunami,
2018-11-06, 14:29
- Whaaaaat -
kidtsunami,
2018-11-06, 14:15
- Whaaaaat -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-11-06, 13:57
- Whaaaaat - Kermit, 2018-11-06, 13:07
- Whaaaaat -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-11-06, 13:02
- Look at Blizzcon -
Cody Miller,
2018-11-05, 10:43
- Look at Blizzcon -
Harmanimus,
2018-11-05, 10:00
- Look at Blizzcon -
Cody Miller,
2018-11-05, 10:34
- Look at Blizzcon -
cheapLEY,
2018-11-05, 10:47
- Look at Blizzcon -
Cody Miller,
2018-11-05, 10:53
- Look at Blizzcon - cheapLEY, 2018-11-05, 11:46
- Look at Blizzcon -
Cody Miller,
2018-11-05, 10:53
- Look at Blizzcon -
cheapLEY,
2018-11-05, 10:47
- Look at Blizzcon -
marmot 1333,
2018-11-05, 09:36
- Getting new fans into Bungie Culture is Critical. -
CommandrCleavage,
2018-11-05, 12:20
- DBO: Thunderdome Edition
- Claude Errera, 2018-11-05, 12:42
- DBO Thunderdome 2: Electric Boogaloo - Highlander Edition
- INSANEdrive, 2018-11-05, 15:28
- DBO Thunderdome 2: Electric Boogaloo - Highlander Edition
- DBO: Thunderdome Edition
- Getting new fans into Bungie Culture is Critical. -
narcogen,
2018-10-30, 06:25