Script makes sense.
Characters have personalities, goals, chemistry, and are consistent.
Phenomenal pacing.
Sparse, but meaningful action sequences.
Good mix of humor and seriousness.
Music isn't memorable but it works ok.
There are setups and payoffs.
No stupid tie ins / foreshadowing with other movies that don't exist yet.

This is what happens when people know what they are doing. Marvel can finally start learning from DC.

Thumbs up.

I'm not a comic book guy, and I honestly have no skin in the DC vs Marvel internet fight. Have not seen WW yet but will. Have been looking forward to it, and I'm glad that most initial reactions seem to be mostly positive.

That said, wouldn't suggesting that "Marvel can finally start learning from DC" be something that happens once DC surpasses Marvel, instead of just recently barely rising to the level of what Marvel has seemingly been doing since 2008?

2008 also, coincidentally, seems to be when DC movies stopped doing this, as the last film based on one of their properties that I actually liked was TDK.

Script makes sense.
Characters have personalities, goals, chemistry, and are consistent.
Phenomenal pacing.
Sparse, but meaningful action sequences.
Good mix of humor and seriousness.
Music isn't memorable but it works ok.
There are setups and payoffs.
No stupid tie ins / foreshadowing with other movies that don't exist yet.

> This is what happens when people know what they are doing. Marvel can finally start learning from DC.

i was with you until there. lol.

Script makes sense.
Characters have personalities, goals, chemistry, and are consistent.
Phenomenal pacing.
Sparse, but meaningful action sequences.
Good mix of humor and seriousness.
Music isn't memorable but it works ok.
There are setups and payoffs.
No stupid tie ins / foreshadowing with other movies that don't exist yet.

Going back as far as I can remember, I pretty much have only liked and been interested in Batman and Wonder Woman (comics or action figures when little). Geoff Johns gave me a love for the Flash and Green Lantern around 2008 or so. For the past two years, I've just been hoping that they could get this Wonder Woman movie right. Just this one. If all the other ones suck, whatever. This post of yours (not to mention all the reviews) makes me very happy.

This is what happens when people know what they are doing. Marvel can finally start learning from DC.

Wat. Man of Steel sucked. Batman vs. Superman was three hours of my life I'll never get back (though Wonder Woman was by far the best part of it, and Ben Affleck actually was one of the best things in that movie considering what he had to work with). I frankly have no desire to see any of DC's upcoming movies EXCEPT for Wonder Woman, and I don't feel that Wonder Woman is going to make me magically want to give a damn about Justice League or anything else.

Now, I get what you're saying as far as how some of Marvel's more recent movies have been cookie-cutter and relatively uninspired, but don't pretend like they have anything to learn from DC at this point.

Also, did you see Guardians 2 yet? The first 30-40 minutes of that movie had me shaking my head and wondering if Marvel had just lost its ability to do the thing well, but then the rest/majority of the movie turns into a very character driven and well done movie. I thought it was fantastic. Marvel's still got it, and Guardians 2 didn't tie into anything else. Also, Ant-Man was a really fun time and pretty well done, too.

I guess taken as a whole, if I go just based on what you wrote about Wonder Woman, I'd throw the following into that list (give or take pacing, because styling can make the pacing different but still make it work quite well for a particular movie):

Iron Man
Avengers
Captain America: Civil War
Guardians of the Galaxy
Guardians of the Galaxy 2

I could technically throw Civil War (or even Ant-Man or Captain America 1) into there, and I love the hell out of that movie, but it has so many problems as far as plot is concerned and lack of depth or consequence. So I obviously won't. Either way, that list alone tells me that DC either is starting to learn, or it's a blessing that Zack Snyder was relatively nowhere near Wonder Woman and that they put someone who gets it in charge. For all we know, DC's remaining movies are gonna be trash.

As an aside, I'm really excited for Spider-Man now that Marvel's in charge. I haven't enjoyed any of it since Spider-Man 2 back in the day.

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Thoroughly enjoyed the movie myself. I can't say I was as in love with it as many seem to be (I wouldn't put it anywhere close to The Dark Knight or Logan), but I still think it is great.

Script makes sense.

Mostly... there's some stuff at the end that I found questionable, but I won't get into it here for the sake of avoiding spoilers.

Characters have personalities, goals, chemistry, and are consistent.

Agreed, although I personally see that stuff (along with the script making sense) as a bit of a low bar. Still, it is a bar many movies miss, so it deserves mention.

Phenomenal pacing.

Yep.

Sparse, but meaningful action sequences.

Agreed, plus they did a good job of using action sequences to communicate character development (not in every case, but most of the time). I always appreciate that sort of storytelling; when the action is a gateway to some sort of internal growth, struggle, or discovery.

Good mix of humor and seriousness.

Agreed, and on a related note I very much appreciated how earnest and heartfelt the movie is. Wonder Woman as a character wears her heart on her sleeve, and the entire movie carries that same philosophy.

Music isn't memorable but it works ok.
There are setups and payoffs.
No stupid tie ins / foreshadowing with other movies that don't exist yet.

Agreed on all points.

This is what happens when people know what they are doing. Marvel can finally start learning from DC.

Yes, this is a great movie, but I still think Marvel has at least matched it several times over. The first Avengers movie is phenomenal, as are Winter Soldier and Civil War. A lot of people like to dismiss the Marvel movies as "formulaic", and that is somewhat justifiable, but when you consider how effective that formula is, I can't blame Marvel for maintaining a consistent tone and style throughout most of their movie universe. And that still doesn't take into consideration how well made most Marvel movies are. Even the mediocre ones are at least entertaining... not something that can be said about any of DC's recent films, Wonder Woman excluded.

Thumbs up.

+1

Saw it yesterday as a "teambuilding experience" at work. I really enjoyed it. Regarding the typical corn & tropes near the end, they weren't terrible, not more than minor-eye-roll worthy. My wife hasn't seen WW or Guardians 2 yet. I think I'm more excited to see WW with her than G2.

Script makes sense.
Characters have personalities, goals, chemistry, and are consistent.
Phenomenal pacing.
Sparse, but meaningful action sequences.
Good mix of humor and seriousness.

I agree w/ you on all points.

Music isn't memorable but it works ok.

There was music? :) Okay, I did notice it once, but that's because it was distracting/too much, but only for a moment. The musical score worked well.

There are setups and payoffs.
No stupid tie ins / foreshadowing with other movies that don't exist yet.

There was that small tie-back to Batman vs Superman (maybe you forgot it -- it was pretty forgettable, especially when viewed in perspective to the rest of the movie). It was completely acceptable IMHO. It could be seen as a Justice League setup/hint/tease, but that's stretching it a bit; BM vs SM had way more of that than WW did.