Is it just me, or does Ghost sound even more like 343 Guilty Spark than usual here?

Is it just me, or does Ghost sound even more like 343 Guilty Spark than usual here?

Absolutely. North's performance sounds consistent with his previous Destiny work, but they've increased the flanger effect on his voice. It's almost identical to the processing used to create Guilty Spark at this point.

Is it just me, or does Ghost sound even more like 343 Guilty Spark than usual here?

Absolutely. North's performance sounds consistent with his previous Destiny work, but they've increased the flanger effect on his voice. It's almost identical to the processing used to create Guilty Spark at this point.

You would think this would be something they actively listen to and make sure it wasn't similar. Unless that is what they wanted?

Is it just me, or does Ghost sound even more like 343 Guilty Spark than usual here?

Absolutely. North's performance sounds consistent with his previous Destiny work, but they've increased the flanger effect on his voice. It's almost identical to the processing used to create Guilty Spark at this point.

Never forget Dinklebot.

Is it just me, or does Ghost sound even more like 343 Guilty Spark than usual here?

Absolutely. North's performance sounds consistent with his previous Destiny work, but they've increased the flanger effect on his voice. It's almost identical to the processing used to create Guilty Spark at this point.

You would think this would be something they actively listen to and make sure it wasn't similar. Unless that is what they wanted?

It's kind of one of those pop-culture archetypes at this point... the "C3PO" AI voice. While part of me does wish they had gone in a different direction (which they actually did with Dinklebot), there is also something about that sound that just works.

I've certainly used it myself :)

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I'm starting to think you people confuse those two words just to piss me off.

I'm starting to think you people confuse those two words just to piss me off.

It's my own personal "they're/there/their" ;p

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I'm starting to think you people confuse those two words just to piss me off.

To be fair, Cruel couldn't even spell his own username correctly.

-Munky

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So you're saying he's a camera?

Post of the day, right there :)

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I know it all comes down to personal taste, and some people love that stuff... But it made me skip ahead and miss half the trailer lol.

Is it just me, or does Ghost sound even more like 343 Guilty Spark than usual here?

Absolutely. North's performance sounds consistent with his previous Destiny work, but they've increased the flanger effect on his voice. It's almost identical to the processing used to create Guilty Spark at this point.

You would think this would be something they actively listen to and make sure it wasn't similar. Unless that is what they wanted?

It's kind of one of those pop-culture archetypes at this point... the "C3PO" AI voice. While part of me does wish they had gone in a different direction (which they actually did with Dinklebot), there is also something about that sound that just works.

I've certainly used it myself :)

As far as quirky AI's go, Warframe's Ordis stands out thanks to his occasionally-murderous rampancy, including asking for penance from the Operator by offering to blow the ship up... With the Operator still inside:

As far as quirky AI's go, Warframe's Ordis stands out thanks to his occasionally-murderous rampancy, including asking for penance from the Operator by offering to blow the ship up... With the Operator still inside:

Lol. That's like saying the Star War prequels are cool because they have C3PO in them.

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Lol. That's like saying the Star War prequels are cool because they have C3PO in them.

But the Prequels ARE the best SW Movies by far. I <3 Binks

Lol. That's like saying the Star War prequels are cool because they have C3PO in them.

But the Prequels ARE the best SW Movies by far. I <3 Binks

Between this post and your dubstep comment, you are officially history's greatest monster. ;p

Seriously, "shock" and "horror" are not enough to describe my feelings right now.

Not sure if this has been linked up anywhere around here, so why not

https://www.bungie.net/en/pub/TheDawning

How about the prequels set to dubstep? I mean, that wouldn't be worse, right?

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How about the prequels set to dubstep? I mean, that wouldn't be worse, right?

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OMG....that was unexpectedly quite entertaining! Rather ironic, I think.

(is it, actually? Growing up hearing Alanis everywhere makes me question my own understanding....)

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it's like duuuuuuuuuubstep on your wedding day

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-->|if (output != null)
-->|{
-->|-->|output.append("account_id").append('\t')xxxxxxx// comment about account_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("submission_id").append('\t')xxxx// comment about submission_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("payment_method").append('\t');xx// comment about payment_method
-->|}


-->|if (output != null)
-->|{
-->|-->|output.append("account_id").append('\t')->|-->|// comment about account_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("submission_id").append('\t')-->|// comment about submission_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("payment_method").append('\t');>|// comment about payment_method
-->|}


Space only to make code look pretty, operation-wise.

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-->|if (output != null)
-->|{
-->|-->|output.append("account_id").append('\t')->|-->|// comment about account_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("submission_id").append('\t')-->|// comment about submission_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("payment_method").append('\t');>|// comment about payment_method
-->|}


Space only to make code look pretty, operation-wise.

Problem is the comments no longer line up if I'm a weirdo who uses something other than 4-space tabs ;-). But, Yes! Spaces for making the code pretty, FTW! :)

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it's like duuuuuuuuuubstep on your wedding day

It's ironic that a song about called ironic uses examples that aren't ironic. So it's ironic after all.

Between the wonderfully horrible dub-step starwars episode 1, the irony of Ironic by Alanis Morissette, and spaces vs tabs (and that video, which as you know I'm TOTALLY that guy (except I go with vim over emacs)).

Full of win!

-->|if (output != null)
-->|{
-->|-->|output.append("account_id").append('\t')xxxxxxx// comment about account_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("submission_id").append('\t')xxxx// comment about submission_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("payment_method").append('\t');xx// comment about payment_method
-->|}


You never have to worry about downloading a file and opening it up in an editor and having it looks like awful nonsense. Considering that almost any text editor or IDE one would use for coding allows you to set Tab Space by filetype, workspace, user, or application wide, it can be super consistent.

Though honestly, it's whatever your team decides, I'm a Clean Coder and that's the law I live by.

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Is I've never seen anyone who tabs, regardless of by spaces or straight tabs, with the spacebar...

Is I've never seen anyone who tabs, regardless of by spaces or straight tabs, with the spacebar...

I have one coworker who does, in my 2+ decades of coding he's the only one I remember doing this. He also only uses 2 (maybe 3) spaces for indents, probably because he uses his space bar so much.

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-->|if (output != null)
-->|{
-->|-->|output.append("account_id").append('\t')xxxxxxx// comment about account_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("submission_id").append('\t')xxxx// comment about submission_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("payment_method").append('\t');xx// comment about payment_method
-->|}


You never have to worry about downloading a file and opening it up in an editor and having it looks like awful nonsense. Considering that almost any text editor or IDE one would use for coding allows you to set Tab Space by filetype, workspace, user, or application wide, it can be super consistent.

Though honestly, it's whatever your team decides, I'm a Clean Coder and that's the law I live by.

The wonderful thing about using tabs for indenting and spaces for aligning (or making code pretty) is that it doesn't matter what editor you open it up in, it will look pretty and match your preferred indent size (as long as you are using a fixed width font, variable width font users are just wrong, and they deserve to look at ugly, slightly misaligned code all day long).

My example opened in an editor that has tabs set to 6-spaces wide:
---->|if (output != null)
---->|{
---->|---->|output.append("account_id").append('\t')xxxxxxx// comment about account_id
---->|---->|xxxxxx.append("submission_id").append('\t')xxxx// comment about submission_id
---->|---->|xxxxxx.append("payment_method").append('\t');xx// comment about payment_method
---->|}


But yes, above all stick to your team's coding standards, please!

Edit: are you a python guy? I suspect you may be...

You only need tabs and spaces if you have newlines. The entire FTB is one line of code.*

*May not be true

I keep forgetting I need to watch that show. Clips like this just make me wonder what's taking me so long.

I'll have to watch it alone, though; i can pretty much guarantee my wife will NOT be interested. :)

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-->|if (output != null)
-->|{
-->|-->|output.append("account_id").append('\t')xxxxxxx// comment about account_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("submission_id").append('\t')xxxx// comment about submission_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("payment_method").append('\t');xx// comment about payment_method
-->|}


You never have to worry about downloading a file and opening it up in an editor and having it looks like awful nonsense. Considering that almost any text editor or IDE one would use for coding allows you to set Tab Space by filetype, workspace, user, or application wide, it can be super consistent.

Though honestly, it's whatever your team decides, I'm a Clean Coder and that's the law I live by.

The wonderful thing about using tabs for indenting and spaces for aligning (or making code pretty) is that it doesn't matter what editor you open it up in, it will look pretty and match your preferred indent size (as long as you are using a fixed width font, variable width font users are just wrong, and they deserve to look at ugly, slightly misaligned code all day long).

My example opened in an editor that has tabs set to 6-spaces wide:
---->|if (output != null)
---->|{
---->|---->|output.append("account_id").append('\t')xxxxxxx// comment about account_id
---->|---->|xxxxxx.append("submission_id").append('\t')xxxx// comment about submission_id
---->|---->|xxxxxx.append("payment_method").append('\t');xx// comment about payment_method
---->|}


But yes, above all stick to your team's coding standards, please!

Edit: are you a python guy? I suspect you may be...

Considering only professional coding (not including internships):

8 years of .NET before becoming a consultant and now 4 years of Salesforce, Python, .NET, Javascript (mostly a typescript junkie)

I'm not a fan of space sensitive languages, and prefer 4 space styling. But yeah, as always stick to your team's coding standards, which are hopefully heavily based on some existing language styling guide.

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I wasn't familiar with that term, so I looked it up. Here's a concise overview:

Top 9 qualities of clean code

Amazon

I've made it so every developer hired at my company gets Clean Code and Clean Coder if they don't already have them.

it's like duuuuuuuuuubstep on your wedding day

It's ironic that a song about called ironic uses examples that aren't ironic. So it's ironic after all.

We need to go deeper. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Boom.

Any respectable IDE had an automatic format hotkey. I mean, Visual Studio has it, so why would any respectable IDE not have it as well?

100% adoption of 2 spaces in the Ruby community. Here's a neat little infographic with data from 400,000 GitHub repos:

I mostly write JavaScript these days. I set my editor so a tab is 2 spaces. So used to it by now that 4 spaces for indentation is just way too much.

I like to use EditorConfig in any of my new projects these days. It allows you to add a config file to your project to enforce style guide rules that aren't linter specific. And most IDEs have an EditorConfig plugin to enforce the config.

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Why what? Not sure what the question is? Why 2 spaces? Just the convention adopted by the community at large, and if you're contributing to any open source project that's Ruby based you have to abide.

The big point of tabs and spaces, IMO, isn't which is better. It's about making pull requests legible. It's easier to review code that isn't mucked up with a bunch of committed lines that are just indentation changes.

This is why EditorConfig works well for open source projects, because it enforces everyone working on it to adopt the conventions of the project, rather than each individual's conventions.

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I meant this post initially as a "you can have a professional opinion and still be WRONG" but then I acted like I was right...