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The Dawning Launch Trailer (Destiny)

by Beorn @, <End of Failed Timeline>, Monday, December 12, 2016, 16:23 (3145 days ago)

Is it just me, or does Ghost sound even more like 343 Guilty Spark than usual here?

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The Dawning Launch Trailer

by CruelLEGACEY @, Toronto, Monday, December 12, 2016, 16:55 (3145 days ago) @ Beorn

Is it just me, or does Ghost sound even more like 343 Guilty Spark than usual here?

Absolutely. North's performance sounds consistent with his previous Destiny work, but they've increased the flanger effect on his voice. It's almost identical to the processing used to create Guilty Spark at this point.

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The Dawning Launch Trailer

by MacAddictXIV @, Seattle WA, Monday, December 12, 2016, 16:58 (3145 days ago) @ CruelLEGACEY

Is it just me, or does Ghost sound even more like 343 Guilty Spark than usual here?


Absolutely. North's performance sounds consistent with his previous Destiny work, but they've increased the flanger effect on his voice. It's almost identical to the processing used to create Guilty Spark at this point.

You would think this would be something they actively listen to and make sure it wasn't similar. Unless that is what they wanted?

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The Dawning Launch Trailer

by CruelLEGACEY @, Toronto, Monday, December 12, 2016, 17:09 (3145 days ago) @ MacAddictXIV

Is it just me, or does Ghost sound even more like 343 Guilty Spark than usual here?


Absolutely. North's performance sounds consistent with his previous Destiny work, but they've increased the flanger effect on his voice. It's almost identical to the processing used to create Guilty Spark at this point.


You would think this would be something they actively listen to and make sure it wasn't similar. Unless that is what they wanted?

It's kind of one of those pop-culture archetypes at this point... the "C3PO" AI voice. While part of me does wish they had gone in a different direction (which they actually did with Dinklebot), there is also something about that sound that just works.

I've certainly used it myself :)

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Know what other game has a C3PO AI sidekick?

by Korny @, Dalton, Ga. US. Earth, Sol System, Monday, December 12, 2016, 21:51 (3145 days ago) @ CruelLEGACEY

Is it just me, or does Ghost sound even more like 343 Guilty Spark than usual here?


Absolutely. North's performance sounds consistent with his previous Destiny work, but they've increased the flanger effect on his voice. It's almost identical to the processing used to create Guilty Spark at this point.


You would think this would be something they actively listen to and make sure it wasn't similar. Unless that is what they wanted?


It's kind of one of those pop-culture archetypes at this point... the "C3PO" AI voice. While part of me does wish they had gone in a different direction (which they actually did with Dinklebot), there is also something about that sound that just works.

I've certainly used it myself :)

As far as quirky AI's go, Warframe's Ordis stands out thanks to his occasionally-murderous rampancy, including asking for penance from the Operator by offering to blow the ship up... With the Operator still inside:

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Know what other game has a C3PO AI sidekick?

by Cody Miller @, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Monday, December 12, 2016, 22:10 (3145 days ago) @ Korny

As far as quirky AI's go, Warframe's Ordis stands out thanks to his occasionally-murderous rampancy, including asking for penance from the Operator by offering to blow the ship up... With the Operator still inside:

Lol. That's like saying the Star War prequels are cool because they have C3PO in them.

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:,,(

by dogcow @, Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Monday, December 12, 2016, 22:46 (3145 days ago) @ Cody Miller

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Know what other game has a C3PO AI sidekick?

by unoudid @, Somewhere over the rainbow, Monday, December 12, 2016, 22:57 (3145 days ago) @ Cody Miller

Lol. That's like saying the Star War prequels are cool because they have C3PO in them.

But the Prequels ARE the best SW Movies by far. I <3 Binks

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Know what other game has a C3PO AI sidekick?

by CruelLEGACEY @, Toronto, Monday, December 12, 2016, 23:02 (3145 days ago) @ unoudid

Lol. That's like saying the Star War prequels are cool because they have C3PO in them.


But the Prequels ARE the best SW Movies by far. I <3 Binks

Between this post and your dubstep comment, you are officially history's greatest monster. ;p

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Know what other game has a C3PO AI sidekick?

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Monday, December 12, 2016, 23:30 (3145 days ago) @ CruelLEGACEY

Seriously, "shock" and "horror" are not enough to describe my feelings right now.

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Know what other game has a C3PO AI sidekick?

by SonofMacPhisto @, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 02:11 (3145 days ago) @ ZackDark

How about the prequels set to dubstep? I mean, that wouldn't be worse, right?

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Can one of the mods please ban this man? ;)

by CruelLEGACEY @, Toronto, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 02:12 (3145 days ago) @ SonofMacPhisto

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DAMMIT!

by CruelLEGACEY @, Toronto, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 02:15 (3145 days ago) @ SonofMacPhisto

How about the prequels set to dubstep? I mean, that wouldn't be worse, right?

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I REGRET NOTHING

by SonofMacPhisto @, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 02:17 (3145 days ago) @ CruelLEGACEY

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DAMMIT!

by Mid7night ⌂ @, Rocket BSCHSHCSHSHCCHGGH!!!!!!, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 02:28 (3145 days ago) @ CruelLEGACEY

OMG....that was unexpectedly quite entertaining! Rather ironic, I think.

(is it, actually? Growing up hearing Alanis everywhere makes me question my own understanding....)

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DAMMIT!

by SonofMacPhisto @, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 12:12 (3144 days ago) @ Mid7night

it's like duuuuuuuuuubstep on your wedding day

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DAMMIT!

by Cody Miller @, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 14:19 (3144 days ago) @ SonofMacPhisto

it's like duuuuuuuuuubstep on your wedding day

It's ironic that a song about called ironic uses examples that aren't ironic. So it's ironic after all.

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DAMMIT!

by SonofMacPhisto @, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 18:44 (3144 days ago) @ Cody Miller

it's like duuuuuuuuuubstep on your wedding day


It's ironic that a song about called ironic uses examples that aren't ironic. So it's ironic after all.

We need to go deeper. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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LOL

by slycrel ⌂, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 14:09 (3144 days ago) @ CruelLEGACEY

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DAMMIT! - Made my morning!

by dogcow @, Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 14:14 (3144 days ago) @ CruelLEGACEY

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The Dawning Launch Trailer

by Cody Miller @, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Monday, December 12, 2016, 17:07 (3145 days ago) @ CruelLEGACEY

Is it just me, or does Ghost sound even more like 343 Guilty Spark than usual here?


Absolutely. North's performance sounds consistent with his previous Destiny work, but they've increased the flanger effect on his voice. It's almost identical to the processing used to create Guilty Spark at this point.

Never forget Dinklebot.

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DinklebotIsNotCannon.com ;p

by CruelLEGACEY @, Toronto, Monday, December 12, 2016, 17:11 (3145 days ago) @ Cody Miller

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DinklebotIsNotCannon.com ;p

by CyberKN ⌂ @, Oh no, Destiny 2 is bad, Monday, December 12, 2016, 17:16 (3145 days ago) @ CruelLEGACEY

I'm starting to think you people confuse those two words just to piss me off.

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DinklebotIsNotCannon.com ;p

by CruelLEGACEY @, Toronto, Monday, December 12, 2016, 17:17 (3145 days ago) @ CyberKN

I'm starting to think you people confuse those two words just to piss me off.

It's my own personal "they're/there/their" ;p

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DinklebotIsNotCannon.com ;p

by Korny @, Dalton, Ga. US. Earth, Sol System, Monday, December 12, 2016, 17:33 (3145 days ago) @ CyberKN

I'm starting to think you people confuse those two words just to piss me off.

To be fair, Cruel couldn't even spell his own username correctly.

-Munky

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+1

by CruelLEGACEY @, Toronto, Monday, December 12, 2016, 17:41 (3145 days ago) @ Korny

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DinklebotIsNotCannon.com ;p

by Vortech @, A Fourth Wheel, Monday, December 12, 2016, 18:14 (3145 days ago) @ CyberKN

So you're saying he's a camera?

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DinklebotIsNotCannon.com ;p

by CyberKN ⌂ @, Oh no, Destiny 2 is bad, Monday, December 12, 2016, 18:28 (3145 days ago) @ Vortech

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LOL

by CruelLEGACEY @, Toronto, Monday, December 12, 2016, 18:32 (3145 days ago) @ CyberKN

Post of the day, right there :)

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Yep.

by Ragashingo ⌂, Official DBO Cryptarch, Monday, December 12, 2016, 18:43 (3145 days ago) @ CruelLEGACEY

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That's the CreeperBot

by unoudid @, Somewhere over the rainbow, Monday, December 12, 2016, 22:51 (3145 days ago) @ Vortech

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'Member Dinklebot?

by SonofMacPhisto @, Monday, December 12, 2016, 17:31 (3145 days ago) @ CruelLEGACEY

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Really looking forward to the end of dub step edits

by kidtsunami @, Atlanta, GA, Monday, December 12, 2016, 19:09 (3145 days ago) @ Beorn

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+500

by CruelLEGACEY @, Toronto, Monday, December 12, 2016, 19:53 (3145 days ago) @ kidtsunami

I know it all comes down to personal taste, and some people love that stuff... But it made me skip ahead and miss half the trailer lol.

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All dubstep all the time ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

by unoudid @, Somewhere over the rainbow, Monday, December 12, 2016, 22:55 (3145 days ago) @ kidtsunami

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As a professional editor... I fucking love dubstep. Sorry.

by Kahzgul, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 03:49 (3144 days ago) @ kidtsunami

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As a professional coder I'm all about 4 space tabs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

by kidtsunami @, Atlanta, GA, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 12:53 (3144 days ago) @ Kahzgul

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Tabs to indent, spaces to align!

by dogcow @, Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 13:27 (3144 days ago) @ kidtsunami
edited by dogcow, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 13:36

-->|if (output != null)
-->|{
-->|-->|output.append("account_id").append('\t')xxxxxxx// comment about account_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("submission_id").append('\t')xxxx// comment about submission_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("payment_method").append('\t');xx// comment about payment_method
-->|}

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Tabs to indent, tabs to align!

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 13:52 (3144 days ago) @ dogcow

-->|if (output != null)
-->|{
-->|-->|output.append("account_id").append('\t')->|-->|// comment about account_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("submission_id").append('\t')-->|// comment about submission_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("payment_method").append('\t');>|// comment about payment_method
-->|}

Space only to make code look pretty, operation-wise.

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Tabs to indent, tabs to align!

by dogcow @, Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 14:12 (3144 days ago) @ ZackDark

-->|if (output != null)
-->|{
-->|-->|output.append("account_id").append('\t')->|-->|// comment about account_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("submission_id").append('\t')-->|// comment about submission_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("payment_method").append('\t');>|// comment about payment_method
-->|}

Space only to make code look pretty, operation-wise.

Problem is the comments no longer line up if I'm a weirdo who uses something other than 4-space tabs ;-). But, Yes! Spaces for making the code pretty, FTW! :)

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Just going to leave this here...

by slycrel ⌂, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 14:15 (3144 days ago) @ ZackDark

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This entire thread is making my day

by dogcow @, Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 14:24 (3144 days ago) @ slycrel

Between the wonderfully horrible dub-step starwars episode 1, the irony of Ironic by Alanis Morissette, and spaces vs tabs (and that video, which as you know I'm TOTALLY that guy (except I go with vim over emacs)).

Full of win!

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Dat punchline, though

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 14:36 (3144 days ago) @ slycrel

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This is a show worth watching it seems?

by unoudid @, Somewhere over the rainbow, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 14:46 (3144 days ago) @ slycrel

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The infuriating part

by kidtsunami @, Atlanta, GA, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 14:50 (3144 days ago) @ slycrel

Is I've never seen anyone who tabs, regardless of by spaces or straight tabs, with the spacebar...

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The infuriating part

by dogcow @, Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 15:02 (3144 days ago) @ kidtsunami

Is I've never seen anyone who tabs, regardless of by spaces or straight tabs, with the spacebar...

I have one coworker who does, in my 2+ decades of coding he's the only one I remember doing this. He also only uses 2 (maybe 3) spaces for indents, probably because he uses his space bar so much.

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Dear lord...

by kidtsunami @, Atlanta, GA, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 15:39 (3144 days ago) @ dogcow

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Bravo

by stabbim @, Des Moines, IA, USA, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 15:07 (3144 days ago) @ slycrel

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Just going to leave this here...

by Claude Errera @, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 15:36 (3144 days ago) @ slycrel

I keep forgetting I need to watch that show. Clips like this just make me wonder what's taking me so long.

I'll have to watch it alone, though; i can pretty much guarantee my wife will NOT be interested. :)

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It's worth the time. :D Uh, mostly. ;)

by slycrel ⌂, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 23:05 (3144 days ago) @ Claude Errera

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Spaces keep indents and alignments universal

by kidtsunami @, Atlanta, GA, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 14:27 (3144 days ago) @ dogcow

-->|if (output != null)
-->|{
-->|-->|output.append("account_id").append('\t')xxxxxxx// comment about account_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("submission_id").append('\t')xxxx// comment about submission_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("payment_method").append('\t');xx// comment about payment_method
-->|}

You never have to worry about downloading a file and opening it up in an editor and having it looks like awful nonsense. Considering that almost any text editor or IDE one would use for coding allows you to set Tab Space by filetype, workspace, user, or application wide, it can be super consistent.


Though honestly, it's whatever your team decides, I'm a Clean Coder and that's the law I live by.

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Spaces keep indents and alignments universal

by dogcow @, Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 15:12 (3144 days ago) @ kidtsunami

-->|if (output != null)
-->|{
-->|-->|output.append("account_id").append('\t')xxxxxxx// comment about account_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("submission_id").append('\t')xxxx// comment about submission_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("payment_method").append('\t');xx// comment about payment_method
-->|}


You never have to worry about downloading a file and opening it up in an editor and having it looks like awful nonsense. Considering that almost any text editor or IDE one would use for coding allows you to set Tab Space by filetype, workspace, user, or application wide, it can be super consistent.


Though honestly, it's whatever your team decides, I'm a Clean Coder and that's the law I live by.

The wonderful thing about using tabs for indenting and spaces for aligning (or making code pretty) is that it doesn't matter what editor you open it up in, it will look pretty and match your preferred indent size (as long as you are using a fixed width font, variable width font users are just wrong, and they deserve to look at ugly, slightly misaligned code all day long).

My example opened in an editor that has tabs set to 6-spaces wide:
---->|if (output != null)
---->|{
---->|---->|output.append("account_id").append('\t')xxxxxxx// comment about account_id
---->|---->|xxxxxx.append("submission_id").append('\t')xxxx// comment about submission_id
---->|---->|xxxxxx.append("payment_method").append('\t');xx// comment about payment_method
---->|}

But yes, above all stick to your team's coding standards, please!


Edit: are you a python guy? I suspect you may be...

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Tabs and Spaces are for pansies

by Beorn @, <End of Failed Timeline>, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 15:30 (3144 days ago) @ dogcow

You only need tabs and spaces if you have newlines. The entire FTB is one line of code.*

*May not be true

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White space is for suckers who can't see

by kidtsunami @, Atlanta, GA, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 16:02 (3144 days ago) @ Beorn

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lol.

by dogcow @, Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 16:06 (3144 days ago) @ Beorn

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Almost got a plane ticket for Cali to hunt you down

by MacAddictXIV @, Seattle WA, Wednesday, December 14, 2016, 12:58 (3143 days ago) @ Beorn

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I'm not sure what I am

by kidtsunami @, Atlanta, GA, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 15:44 (3144 days ago) @ dogcow
edited by kidtsunami, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 16:03

-->|if (output != null)
-->|{
-->|-->|output.append("account_id").append('\t')xxxxxxx// comment about account_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("submission_id").append('\t')xxxx// comment about submission_id
-->|-->|xxxxxx.append("payment_method").append('\t');xx// comment about payment_method
-->|}


You never have to worry about downloading a file and opening it up in an editor and having it looks like awful nonsense. Considering that almost any text editor or IDE one would use for coding allows you to set Tab Space by filetype, workspace, user, or application wide, it can be super consistent.


Though honestly, it's whatever your team decides, I'm a Clean Coder and that's the law I live by.


The wonderful thing about using tabs for indenting and spaces for aligning (or making code pretty) is that it doesn't matter what editor you open it up in, it will look pretty and match your preferred indent size (as long as you are using a fixed width font, variable width font users are just wrong, and they deserve to look at ugly, slightly misaligned code all day long).

My example opened in an editor that has tabs set to 6-spaces wide:
---->|if (output != null)
---->|{
---->|---->|output.append("account_id").append('\t')xxxxxxx// comment about account_id
---->|---->|xxxxxx.append("submission_id").append('\t')xxxx// comment about submission_id
---->|---->|xxxxxx.append("payment_method").append('\t');xx// comment about payment_method
---->|}

But yes, above all stick to your team's coding standards, please!


Edit: are you a python guy? I suspect you may be...

Considering only professional coding (not including internships):

8 years of .NET before becoming a consultant and now 4 years of Salesforce, Python, .NET, Javascript (mostly a typescript junkie)

I'm not a fan of space sensitive languages, and prefer 4 space styling. But yeah, as always stick to your team's coding standards, which are hopefully heavily based on some existing language styling guide.

Clean Coder

by marmot 1333 @, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 17:27 (3144 days ago) @ kidtsunami

I wasn't familiar with that term, so I looked it up. Here's a concise overview:

Top 9 qualities of clean code

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I highly recommend Clean Code

by kidtsunami @, Atlanta, GA, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 18:24 (3144 days ago) @ marmot 1333

Amazon

I've made it so every developer hired at my company gets Clean Code and Clean Coder if they don't already have them.

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Ctrl+K -> Ctrl+F

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 19:26 (3144 days ago) @ kidtsunami

Boom.

Any respectable IDE had an automatic format hotkey. I mean, Visual Studio has it, so why would any respectable IDE not have it as well?

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Clearly none of you are Rubyists

by BeardFade ⌂, Portland, OR, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 20:34 (3144 days ago) @ kidtsunami
edited by BeardFade, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 20:49

100% adoption of 2 spaces in the Ruby community. Here's a neat little infographic with data from 400,000 GitHub repos:

[image]

I mostly write JavaScript these days. I set my editor so a tab is 2 spaces. So used to it by now that 4 spaces for indentation is just way too much.

I like to use EditorConfig in any of my new projects these days. It allows you to add a config file to your project to enforce style guide rules that aren't linter specific. And most IDEs have an EditorConfig plugin to enforce the config.

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Why, though?

by ZackDark @, Not behind you. NO! Don't look., Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 21:22 (3144 days ago) @ BeardFade

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Felipe's methods are suspect.

by dogcow @, Hiding from Bob, in the vent core., Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 21:28 (3144 days ago) @ ZackDark

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Why, though?

by BeardFade ⌂, Portland, OR, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 22:04 (3144 days ago) @ ZackDark

Why what? Not sure what the question is? Why 2 spaces? Just the convention adopted by the community at large, and if you're contributing to any open source project that's Ruby based you have to abide.

The big point of tabs and spaces, IMO, isn't which is better. It's about making pull requests legible. It's easier to review code that isn't mucked up with a bunch of committed lines that are just indentation changes.

This is why EditorConfig works well for open source projects, because it enforces everyone working on it to adopt the conventions of the project, rather than each individual's conventions.

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The funny thing is

by kidtsunami @, Atlanta, GA, Wednesday, December 14, 2016, 14:00 (3143 days ago) @ kidtsunami

I meant this post initially as a "you can have a professional opinion and still be WRONG" but then I acted like I was right...

Bungie.net Dawning event Landing Page

by Pyromancy @, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 01:28 (3145 days ago) @ Beorn
edited by Pyromancy, Tuesday, December 13, 2016, 01:33

Not sure if this has been linked up anywhere around here, so why not

https://www.bungie.net/en/pub/TheDawning

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