??? POTENTIAL RAID SPOILERS (Destiny)
I remember the discussion coming up during the Halo 2 and Halo 3 pre-launch days, and I used to take a pretty hardline stance that if the developer is willing to show and talk about it, it's not a spoiler.
This shows that I was very definitely wrong.
It really doesn't, and if you haven't seen it it's even more senseless to say that. Developers can spoil their work. Sometimes they're willing to (e.g. when Lorraine McLees spoiled that Noble Team dies in an unboxing video of all things). The vast majority of the time, though, if they're talking about it, then it's early on, or it's a vague thing, or it's just a theme.
They had a whole section talking about being on top of the wall and the death-zamboni. Instead of a HOLY-SHIT moment, I'm going to say: Oh cool its the part where we HAVE to run away and jump off the wall. How does that not spoil the experience in your eyes?
No, I didn't feel that way because I didn't think about what it was taking away, I was just thinking "that's really cool". Now that I am, it's not going to be a surprise, so that's... well, not spoiling, I would say, but something's lost. Spoiling would be if they gave out story elements or puzzle solutions.
Something is lost by not having the first encounter with it be interactive, and having that be a surprise*, but it's not much compared to an entire raid. It's not even much compared to one hard puzzle (like say the Warpriest fight). It's a set piece, something that has a short shelf life (unless it's one of the best ever in the entire medium, and then it'll last as long as people's memory holds out, or until their top 5 or top 10 lists get too close to being top 15 or top 20).
How would you prefer they build hype for the raid?
* a pretty basic "oooooh it's big and it's gonna getchya!" surprise too, in a game mode full of things that are both big and going to get you, I mean even the tombships qualify
Complete thread:
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
CyberKN,
2016-08-16, 17:50
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
INSANEdrive,
2016-08-16, 18:06
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
Harmanimus,
2016-08-16, 18:17
- Neat! - INSANEdrive, 2016-08-16, 18:19
- If D is for Destiny, then N is for Nadir -
Pyromancy,
2016-08-16, 18:20
- If D is for Destiny, then N is for Nadir -
INSANEdrive,
2016-08-16, 18:27
- Mmmmmm, Nougat -
Pyromancy,
2016-08-16, 18:29
- Seriously, what is nougat? It's creepy, is what it is. -
Kahzgul,
2016-08-16, 19:28
- Nougat will be very creepy, indeed, once released... - Ragashingo, 2016-08-16, 19:33
- I've actually called Mars support with that question. -
dogcow,
2016-08-16, 19:33
- I've actually called Mars support with that question. - slycrel, 2016-08-16, 20:41
- I find company support not helpful in these cases. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-16, 22:17
- New invention: Pop Rocks in Rye bread, like a pimento bread - Pyromancy, 2016-08-16, 22:34
- Seriously, what is nougat? It's creepy, is what it is. -
Kahzgul,
2016-08-16, 19:28
- Mmmmmm, Nougat -
Pyromancy,
2016-08-16, 18:29
- If D is for Destiny, then N is for Nadir -
INSANEdrive,
2016-08-16, 18:27
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
Harmanimus,
2016-08-16, 18:17
- Watching this reminded me how much I liked TTK - Kahzgul, 2016-08-16, 20:05
- I should not have watched this. -
Revenant1988,
2016-08-16, 20:59
- Thanks for the warning. Serious. -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-16, 21:00
- Ditto. - Kermit, 2016-08-16, 21:08
- Skipped it for that reason, happy I did now. - slycrel, 2016-08-16, 21:09
- Yeah.. (no sp) -
breitzen,
2016-08-16, 23:42
- Yeah.. (no sp) -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-17, 00:21
- Yeah.. (no sp) - General Vagueness, 2016-08-17, 01:37
- Yeah.. (no sp) -
Kermit,
2016-08-17, 00:23
- Yeah.. (no sp) -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-17, 00:54
- Yeah.. (no sp) -
General Vagueness,
2016-08-17, 01:42
- ??? POTENTIAL RAID SPOILERS -
breitzen,
2016-08-17, 02:51
- No raid spoilers here. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-17, 03:42
- No raid spoilers here. - Ragashingo, 2016-08-17, 04:22
- Agreed. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-08-17, 05:04
- Seriously? (Game of Thrones season 6 spoilers above) -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-17, 11:35
- Is that an actual spoiler? -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-17, 11:45
- I'd consider it one. - breitzen, 2016-08-17, 12:07
- Absolutely -
someotherguy,
2016-08-17, 12:31
- Absolutely -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-17, 12:45
- It is a completely relevant comparison. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-08-17, 13:04
- Not a relevant comparison - Kermit, 2016-08-17, 13:37
- It is a completely relevant comparison. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-08-17, 13:04
- Absolutely -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-17, 12:45
- Hardly a spoiler. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-08-17, 13:01
- Hardly a spoiler. -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-17, 13:33
- I've never seen one. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-08-17, 15:56
- I'm sorry. -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-17, 16:24
- Eh, you're fine. - ProbablyLast, 2016-08-17, 17:00
- I'm sorry. -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-17, 16:24
- I've never seen one. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-08-17, 15:56
- Hardly a spoiler. -
dogcow,
2016-08-17, 13:55
- My bad. - ProbablyLast, 2016-08-17, 14:05
- Hardly a spoiler. -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-17, 13:33
- Is that an actual spoiler? -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-17, 11:45
- Didn't They Do 'Hold The Door'? - Morpheus, 2016-08-17, 13:45
- Seriously? (Game of Thrones season 6 spoilers above) -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-17, 11:35
- Not all spoilers are created equal. -
breitzen,
2016-08-17, 12:02
- That's rational. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-17, 15:04
- Yep :/ - breitzen, 2016-08-17, 15:13
- That's rational. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-17, 15:04
- You're missing the point (as usual) -
Revenant1988,
2016-08-17, 13:01
- You're missing the point (as usual) - Cody Miller, 2016-08-17, 15:07
- How was I being a douche? -
Funkmon,
2016-08-17, 15:07
- You still have yet to eat that sock. -
Revenant1988,
2016-08-17, 20:12
- That makes me a douche. Got it. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-17, 20:17
- That makes me a douche. Got it. - General Vagueness, 2016-08-17, 23:58
- That makes me a douche. Got it. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-17, 20:17
- You still have yet to eat that sock. -
Revenant1988,
2016-08-17, 20:12
- I completely agree with this - ZackDark, 2016-08-17, 12:00
- ??? POTENTIAL RAID SPOILERS - General Vagueness, 2016-08-17, 20:45
- No raid spoilers here. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-17, 03:42
- Wellll...... -
Morpheus,
2016-08-17, 03:13
- "From the Beginning you know the End" - INSANEdrive, 2016-08-17, 03:21
- Wellll...... -
Kermit,
2016-08-17, 09:06
- I will explain by analogy what kind of stuff they "spoiled." -
Funkmon,
2016-08-17, 14:39
- I will explain by analogy what kind of stuff they "spoiled." -
Kermit,
2016-08-17, 14:48
- I will explain by analogy what kind of stuff they "spoiled." -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-17, 14:52
- There's a strong possibility this is on that level. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-17, 14:59
- It would've been if they'd stayed quiet - ZackDark, 2016-08-17, 15:02
- There's a strong possibility this is on that level. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-17, 14:59
- I will explain by analogy what kind of stuff they "spoiled." -
General Vagueness,
2016-08-17, 20:57
- I will explain by analogy what kind of stuff they "spoiled." -
Kermit,
2016-08-17, 21:32
- I will explain by analogy what kind of stuff they "spoiled." -
General Vagueness,
2016-08-18, 00:27
- I agree with Cody. - Kermit, 2016-08-18, 00:36
- I will explain by analogy what kind of stuff they "spoiled." -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-18, 00:39
- Same for me. - Kermit, 2016-08-18, 02:06
- #codyisright -
Robot Chickens,
2016-08-18, 12:27
- well... - Kermit, 2016-08-18, 12:34
- I will explain by analogy what kind of stuff they "spoiled." -
General Vagueness,
2016-08-18, 00:27
- I will explain by analogy what kind of stuff they "spoiled." -
Kermit,
2016-08-17, 21:32
- I will explain by analogy what kind of stuff they "spoiled." -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-17, 14:52
- A big one they spoiled, IMO (analogy to VoG) -
ZackDark,
2016-08-17, 14:54
- It looked to me like it was not that. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-17, 14:59
- or possible *SP* -
Schedonnardus,
2016-08-17, 18:42
- My guess, *SP* - Ragashingo, 2016-08-19, 03:45
- or possible *SP* -
Schedonnardus,
2016-08-17, 18:42
- It looked to me like it was not that. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-17, 14:59
- I will explain by analogy what kind of stuff they "spoiled." -
Kermit,
2016-08-17, 14:48
- I will explain by analogy what kind of stuff they "spoiled." -
Funkmon,
2016-08-17, 14:39
- ??? POTENTIAL RAID SPOILERS -
breitzen,
2016-08-17, 02:51
- Yeah.. (no sp) -
General Vagueness,
2016-08-17, 01:42
- Yeah.. (no sp) -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-17, 00:54
- Yeah.. (no sp) - Cody Miller, 2016-08-17, 14:56
- Yeah.. (no sp) -
General Vagueness,
2016-08-17, 21:12
- Yeah.. (no sp) - breitzen, 2016-08-18, 13:24
- Yeah.. (no sp) -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-17, 00:21
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
dogcow,
2016-08-17, 14:03
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-17, 14:58
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
CyberKN,
2016-08-17, 14:59
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-17, 15:01
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
CyberKN,
2016-08-17, 15:02
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-17, 15:03
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. - Funkmon, 2016-08-17, 15:06
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
CyberKN,
2016-08-17, 15:06
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-17, 15:08
- BRB going to watch Datto - Funkmon, 2016-08-17, 15:16
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. - dogcow, 2016-08-17, 15:13
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-17, 15:08
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. - Ragashingo, 2016-08-17, 15:22
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-17, 15:03
- Not incorrect, but the mechanic isn't that bad to know -
ZackDark,
2016-08-17, 15:04
- Not incorrect, but the mechanic isn't that bad to know -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-17, 15:05
- Not incorrect, but the mechanic isn't that bad to know -
ZackDark,
2016-08-17, 15:10
- Not incorrect, but the mechanic isn't that bad to know -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-17, 15:13
- Pretty much - ZackDark, 2016-08-17, 15:17
- Not incorrect, but the mechanic isn't that bad to know -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-17, 15:13
- Not incorrect, but the mechanic isn't that bad to know - breitzen, 2016-08-17, 15:12
- Not incorrect, but the mechanic isn't that bad to know -
ZackDark,
2016-08-17, 15:10
- Not incorrect, but the mechanic isn't that bad to know -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-17, 15:05
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
dogcow,
2016-08-17, 15:12
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
Revenant1988,
2016-08-17, 15:29
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-17, 17:03
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
Claude Errera,
2016-08-17, 17:18
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. - Revenant1988, 2016-08-17, 17:38
- Ssshhhhhhh! - ZackDark, 2016-08-17, 17:38
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
Schedonnardus,
2016-08-17, 19:05
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. - Kermit, 2016-08-17, 20:41
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
Claude Errera,
2016-08-17, 17:18
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-17, 17:03
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
Revenant1988,
2016-08-17, 15:29
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
CyberKN,
2016-08-17, 15:02
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-17, 15:01
- You could all watch it so you'll at least be even. - Ragashingo, 2016-08-17, 15:02
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
CyberKN,
2016-08-17, 14:59
- I should not have watched this. Same. I'm sad I saw it. -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-17, 14:58
- Thanks for the warning. Serious. -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-16, 21:00
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc - General Vagueness, 2016-08-17, 01:36
- That was better than every stream so far. - ProbablyLast, 2016-08-17, 05:00
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
Avateur,
2016-08-18, 03:37
- Why the spoilers? -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-18, 04:23
- Why the spoilers? -
bluerunner,
2016-08-18, 09:34
- No. That's impossible. -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-18, 11:13
- Hah - ZackDark, 2016-08-18, 11:51
- No. That's impossible. -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-18, 11:13
- Why the spoilers? - cheapLEY, 2016-08-18, 14:04
- Yawn - Avateur, 2016-08-18, 23:48
- Why the spoilers? -
bluerunner,
2016-08-18, 09:34
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
Kermit,
2016-08-18, 12:38
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
Funkmon,
2016-08-18, 17:04
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
Claude Errera,
2016-08-18, 17:17
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc - Funkmon, 2016-08-18, 18:14
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc - Cody Miller, 2016-08-18, 19:06
- Eeyore has the perfect plan. - ProbablyLast, 2016-08-18, 19:45
- courtesy -
dogcow,
2016-08-18, 17:55
- Yes, it's that way here. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-18, 18:26
- Yes, it's that way here. -
dogcow,
2016-08-18, 18:57
- Spolier tags give the chance, to remove one's self from situ -
Pyromancy,
2016-08-18, 19:26
- *SP for Episode VII for no reason* -
Funkmon,
2016-08-18, 19:50
- Just... wow. *SP* above for SW VII. - dogcow, 2016-08-18, 20:02
- One day ban for being an ass -
Beorn,
2016-08-18, 20:07
- He was repeating the spoiler Pyro linked to. - ProbablyLast, 2016-08-18, 20:26
- *SP for Episode VII for no reason* -
Funkmon,
2016-08-18, 19:50
- Spolier tags give the chance, to remove one's self from situ -
Pyromancy,
2016-08-18, 19:26
- Yes, it's that way here. -
dogcow,
2016-08-18, 18:57
- Yes, it's that way here. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-18, 18:26
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc - Ragashingo, 2016-08-18, 19:16
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
Kermit,
2016-08-21, 16:25
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-21, 18:43
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
Kermit,
2016-08-21, 19:45
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-21, 19:52
- Man, you make it difficult even when I agree with you. - Kermit, 2016-08-21, 19:59
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-21, 19:52
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
ProbablyLast,
2016-08-22, 00:23
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-22, 00:41
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc - ProbablyLast, 2016-08-22, 01:16
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-22, 00:41
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
Kermit,
2016-08-21, 19:45
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-21, 18:43
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
Claude Errera,
2016-08-18, 17:17
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc - Avateur, 2016-08-18, 23:52
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
Funkmon,
2016-08-18, 17:04
- Why the spoilers? -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-18, 04:23
- Rise of Iron - Forged in Fire ViDoc -
INSANEdrive,
2016-08-16, 18:06