It's not a plot hole in TDKR (Off-Topic)

by Xenos , Shores of Time, Saturday, January 09, 2016, 00:58 (3465 days ago) @ Kahzgul

People always bring up this plot hole, but I've never seen a single person be right. They do NOT show the timer at 3 hours BEFORE he comes back.

Hmm.. Okay, you're definitely right about that.

They also suggest quite a bit of time passing between the the bomb being put in trucks and then Bruce showing back up (weather change that implies season change, Selina has territory, conversations imply a lot of time has passed, etc.). And further this is the last we see of the bomb before Bruce shows up:

That's minutes and seconds in large numbers, so by logical conclusion that's seconds, minutes, hours, days, and then months

There is nothing logical about that conclusion. Where are you pulling hours, days, and months out of? There are (and yes, I counted because I wanted to be sure): 79 green ticks and 10 red ones in that image. Those values don't evenly come out to any sensical measurement of time.

Click on the image, see the numbers above the big numbers, those are the ones I was referring to. Those are the common denominations people refer to time on countdowns (though many skip months completely): seconds, days, hours, days, months. And with those denominations it fits with all the other times mentioned in the movie.

If you extrapolate the green bars to go all the way around the dial back to the red bars, there would be about 110 (roughly 15 bars per screw hole). Including the red bars, you have 120 total bars, which IS a number that relates to time. And 31 bars have ticked away so far, with the timer displaying 57:34, which we know is minutes and seconds because the shot lasts long enough for us to see it tick down a few times... Which doesn't add up either. It doesn't make any sense any way you slice it. The production designers thought it would look cool but there's no other rationale other than to make the red lights blink later when the bomb is about to go off and batman, in less than 2 minutes, kisses the girl, says goodbye to gordon, flies the nuke 6 miles out to sea (past a bunch of army dudes who were told to kill anyone going in or out of gotham), and - presumably - miraculously escape to safety. Even if he never got on the copter (we know he did though, and we never see him dive out of it either), the thing would have to fly pretty goddamn fast (like more than 200+ mph fast with instantaneous linear acceleration) for that to work.

See above, you're going off of the timer assuming it says 57 minutes and 34 seconds, but there are more numbers above it indicating more time is remaining, meaning the bars indicate even more time. The part I DO agree with people on is they should have shown more time when he flew the bomb out over the ocean, that was my main complaint about the entire movie (which didn't bother me too terribly much, it's a common annoyance in film editing).

In addition remember that it was stated it would take about 5 months for the core to deteriorate, which means when the spec ops team shows up in Gotham and it's been "about 3 months" since the occupation starts, that still leaves them with about a month remaining (remember Bane didn't immediately free prisoners from Blackgate, so it's actually been a little longer than 3 months since the core was removed). The time before that was when Bruce is recovering and attempts to escape the pit at least one time that we see on camera. The last indication of time remaining before Bruce escapes the pit is 23 DAYS (by Lucius to the Spec Ops team right before they die), and then when Bruce arrives there are only about 18 hours remaining. And if anyone thinks Bruce Wayne can't make it to Gotham in 2-3 weeks, even without money or Bat-gadgets, then we have nothing left to talk about.

Fair point, though I also think 2000 cops underground for 5 months would grow beards, lose their tans, probably lose some weight, too, and get a little big dusty, but who am I to argue?

And that's the first actual plot hole I've heard mentioned about TDKR, haha, maybe they gave them razors in the packages full of food? *shrugs*

And, honestly, Bruce Wayne with zero money or gadgets getting back to Gotham is probably a way more exciting and interesting story than the entire rest of the film. I'd have loved to see that part.

Yeah, would've been cool, but I enjoyed the movie still.