The point is, Year 1 weapons were balanced by everything being equally great. T2 weapons are all equally average (longer TtK etc.), which is actually a goid thing I'd say. But Y1 weapons are not at all well balanced versus Y2 weapons.

I can agree with this. And apparently so can the crybabies who actually message me their vile, hateful, filled with delicious yummy tears language after they got slaughtered. I tend to get more messages when I'm rocking my Messenger. Maybe they're just being ironic. :P

"Nice yellow bar a-hole, way to ruin the game for everyone, dirty cheater."

It made us giggle because we have no basically no control over Destiny's connection status. We have 20 Meg cable and an open NAT, but we also have two bones on the same network which can sometimes cause issues. We rarely run poor connection quality in Matchmaking but for some reason we were having some issues that night.

I'd still argue Y1 weapons must have been at least a little broken, considering they literally removed two of the offending perks, and made some perk combinations impossible now, but I guess that's just a matter of opinion. At least some of it has been retroactively nerfed.

The point is, Year 1 weapons were balanced by everything being equally great. T2 weapons are all equally average (longer TtK etc.), which is actually a goid thing I'd say. But Y1 weapons are not at all well balanced versus Y2 weapons.

They aren't more broken. I posit there ARE no broken guns in Destiny anymore.

Are you saying, that by "broken" you simply mean better? If so, I advise against using that word for that purpose. It is confusing, at least to me, since it normally means better to the point of there being few, if any, worthwhile alternatives, thereby breaking the meta-game of weapon selection. You also seem to understand it as such, so I'm arguing against your statement that they are more broken. Because they're not broken.

They're not even broken versus year 2. Simply better in general.

I've literally run out of ways to say "That's not what I'm talking about" at this point. All I can infer is that you saw the word "broken" (which I used in comparative terms, Y1 weapons being broken vs. Y2) and got excited?

But once more - Year One weapons are superior to Year 2 weapons. Year 1 balance was good (eventually). Year 2 balance is good (mostly). Year 1 weapons used against Year 2 weapons have an advantage, because they are collectively, as a whole "more broken" than their Y2 counterparts. They counter each other because, as you say, when everything is broken nothing is. But not everything is broken any more.

Which is (one of) the answer to the question "Why still use Y1 weapons?"

They are simply good.

The question was "Why do people use Y1 weapons still"

The answer is because a lot of them are far and away better than Y2 weapons, because a lot of them have far better stats and/or perk combinations. Which you seem to disagree with on account of there being a lot of them?

There being many (many!) good Y1 weapons makes Y2 weapons better?

[Edit: Plus of course Pocket Infinity, Plan C, Lord of Wolves, Universal Remote (which has been buffed!) and a bunch of other exotics that have been left behind.]

Now, those are Exotics, so at least you only see a few of those. But Y!'s re-rolling completely broke the meta, and let everypme have perfect Rangefinder/Rifled Barrel shotguns, Aggressive Ballistics/Crowd Control/Hidden Hand LMGs and LitC/Final Round Handcannons.

Obviously not all year one weapons were broken, but the ability to reroll them, along with some ridiculous perk sets, made them way more broken than most year two weapons. Especially now that those perk combinations are a lot harder to come by now thanks to different manufacturers using different pools (you can't get LitC on Hakke Handcannons, for example) and a wider variety of perks in the first place.

Honestly, the only weapons that are better in Y2 than Y1 are Snipers.

Live version because rock and roll moves, also they are kind of classic cars too at this stage :P

Sick as a dog today too, so thanks for the smile and memory.

Do you even lift he screams into the mike

ROFL