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I'd be frustrated at Bungie for not fixing it not the player (reply)

someotherguy — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 22:57:32 +0000

Yeah, why would you be mad at the asshole abusing a glitch to win at a videogame? It's totally Bungie's fault. After all, they're literally forcing people to do it.

Sigh.

It's bad that it exists. I'm stunned that it made it through testing (lol what testing?). It's definitely Bungie's fault it's possible to do. It's not their fault people are doing it - that's just people being s**tty and choosing to intentionally hurt other people's experiences using a method they know is abusive for their own gain. Don't give them a scapegoat for their bad behaviour.

I can definitely blame them (reply)

MacAddictXIV — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 19:09:24 +0000

It's not like theyre doing it with a gun to their head.

Not to mention, it's not like they have to stop playing their character, they can just NOT use the glitch and play it normally.

"unfairly" (reply)

someotherguy — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 18:38:03 +0000

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So... where is our Unlimited Stormtrance Glitch? (reply)

Monochron — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 18:34:38 +0000

Sunbreakers are a glitch wherever they go, Nightstalkers get this, and us Stormcallers?

Schadenfunkmon (reply)

Kermit — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 17:00:56 +0000

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If that's all you were saying, you weren't being very clear (reply)

ZackDark — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 07:14:12 +0000

It honestly sounded like you were trying to morally justify the usage of the exploit and absolve most kinds of unfair advantages out there.

I can definitely blame them (reply)

someotherguy — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 07:02:15 +0000

It's not like theyre doing it with a gun to their head.

True happiness. (reply)

Funkmon — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:56:00 +0000

I think one of the biggest smiles I've ever had was when my nephew cried on vacation because we were listening to Joe Walsh and he hates Joe Walsh. God, I loved that.

Unfortunately I have a conscience, so I don't troll, but I just get this true, profound, better than sex joy in those "sucks to be him, but I'm all right" meaningless moments. If everyone who did that glitch got banned for a week, I'd be beside myself with joy.

I've noticed that (reply)

Ragashingo — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:44:19 +0000

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Nothing would make me happier than this. (reply)

Funkmon — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:27:34 +0000

Not because I think it's right, but because I find incredible joy in other people being upset.

Being intentionally unfair is cheating (reply)

Cody Miller — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:07:05 +0000

Interesting, I can't come up with a morally grounded excuse for using infinite Shadowshot. Still, I don't think it should be a retroactively banable offense.

All I'm saying. Fix the exploit with a patch, move on, and don't cry "cheater!" and witch hunt in the meantime.

I hope they ban everyone, even though they won't. (reply)

ProbablyLast — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:05:49 +0000

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Being intentionally unfair is cheating (reply)

ZackDark — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 05:28:46 +0000

If your opponent is incapable of combo-ing and you did it anyway, yes, you were cheating.

If you play a board game against someone who doesn't knows the rules as you're playing, yes, you're cheating.

If you intentionally trigger an infinite Super on people who have no way of doing the same, yes, you're cheating.

Now, is it morally reproachable? Yes, it is.

Is it fair to make it a banable offense retroactively? That's debatable. I am of opinion that no, it isn't fair. You maybe didn't know your opponent couldn't combo. Maybe you didn't know your opponent didn't know the rules. And...

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Interesting, I can't come up with a morally grounded excuse for using infinite Shadowshot. Still, I don't think it should be a retroactively banable offense.

I disagree :-) (reply)

Kahzgul — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 04:32:38 +0000

emergent gameplay is not the same thing as cheating. In the case of shadow shot, it's really cut and dry that it's cheating and your obstinance in the face of that is really disappointing.

But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior (reply)

Ragashingo — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 04:09:59 +0000

Heh. Didn't think you'd go so far as actually endorsing cheating. But whatever's. :)

I disagree :-) (reply)

Cody Miller — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 04:09:58 +0000

They're both cheating. If you do something the software doesn't expect which results in you gaining an advantage, that's cheating.

Combos were not programmed intentionally into Street Fighter 2, but were the unanticipated result of several mechanics coming together. So comboing moves into each other is cheating? Your definition is way too broad.

But everyone knows it isn't intended behavior (reply)

Cody Miller — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 04:07:50 +0000

No matter how you say it exploting this bug is unsportsmanlike. Personally, I think intentional unsportsmanlike actions should result in punishments after a fair warning.

Good thing there's been no warning yet.

I don't consider a warning in a BWUpdate fair (reply)

ZackDark — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 03:42:27 +0000

Just as with the offending gameplay, not everyone does access to the BWUpdate, even though they can (everyone can build a Hunter, after all).

Bannable offenses should be displayed within the game, IMO. But by all means, do warn in the BWUpdate as well.

lol. I had to re-read it to see that. :) (reply)

Kahzgul — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 03:36:42 +0000

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I would easily sign up for Mayhem Trials (reply)

ZackDark — Fri, 16 Oct 2015 03:35:28 +0000

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