Ha, deal! It's all your fault Squid! Although he did carry us through quite a few wins, so thanks, Squid!

I actually had a couple of bad games in Clash before we started playing, so it was nice to turn things around. It's taken me a while to get the hang of the new weapon meta, and I was doing well with my Zen Moment Hawksaw.

I kinda wish Bungie would make it clearer how matches are actually made in Destiny. I've long harbored suspicions that it doesn't work quite how Halo was supposed to.

Not really, because that 'steady stream' has nowhere near the density to make the content interesting or game changing. I know exactly what will happen.

* The year 1 expansions (TDB and HoW), for which we paid $20 a piece, had nowhere near the density to make the content interesting or game changing, either. *EDIT* IMO, of course. Just voicing my own thoughts here.

First of all, they were DLC not expansions.

They were billed as "expansions" from day 1. They were refered to as "expansion 1" and "expansion 2" from the start.
The average DLC pack is 3 or 4 multiplayer maps. Both TDB and HoW featured way more content than that.

Second of all, that absolutely proves my point. To get TTK levels of awesomeness, you need to spend major time and major money. Thus it will cost more to buy. If they couldn't make their DLC interesting before when people paid for it, there's zero hope of it being interesting if people DON'T pay for it.

But we're not getting free content instead of a new major expansion. We're getting it while we wait for the next TTK-level piece of content. Plus you're ignoring the fact that Microtransactions may very well generate more income than DLC sales. People ARE paying for the new content... Just not YOU if you don't want to.

The BEST you could hope for is that the trickle is as good as Dark Below. You see why that's a problem.

No, I don't... not if it's free. I'm totally fine with TDB-level free content from now until the next big thing.

Aside from the enormity of content, TTK was widely praised because of "quality of life" changes and (overall) being kinder to the player in regards to time/grind.

So extrapolating from that, new content created with this new philosophy could be very good, indeed.

Getting a huge drop of content all at once is quite satisfying. But the size of the content drop doesn't dictate its quality--you're confusing correlation with causation there.

Finally, you saying you know exactly what is going to happen is total BS and hurts the rest of your arguments.

Not really, because that 'steady stream' has nowhere near the density to make the content interesting or game changing. I know exactly what will happen.

* The year 1 expansions (TDB and HoW), for which we paid $20 a piece, had nowhere near the density to make the content interesting or game changing, either. *EDIT* IMO, of course. Just voicing my own thoughts here.

First of all, they were DLC not expansions.

Second of all, that absolutely proves my point. To get TTK levels of awesomeness, you need to spend major time and major money. Thus it will cost more to buy. If they couldn't make their DLC interesting before when people paid for it, there's zero hope of it being interesting if people DON'T pay for it.

The BEST you could hope for is that the trickle is as good as Dark Below. You see why that's a problem.

A couple counter-points:

Not really, because that 'steady stream' has nowhere near the density to make the content interesting or game changing. I know exactly what will happen.

* The year 1 expansions (TDB and HoW), for which we paid $20 a piece, had nowhere near the density to make the content interesting or game changing, either. *EDIT* IMO, of course. Just voicing my own thoughts here.

I'd rather buy an expansion and get emotes for free, rather than buy emotes and get some unspecified but less than expansion amount of content for free.

* You're ignoring the 3rd possibility: you pay nothing and still get semi-frequent updates.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for substantial expansions as well. But I'm basing my expectations on what Bungie has delivered so far. When they've released $20 expansions a few months apart, I've been disappointed by the overall lack of quality and quantity of the content. When they invest heavily on a major expansion (TTK), I've been blown away by what they come up with.

So for year 2, if I have a choice between repeating the year 1 plan, or trying something new (funding constant smaller updates with optional and purely cosmetic microtransactions) while we wait for the next major expansion, I'm happy to at least give option 2 a try. Let's see what they come up with before we write it off, is all I'm saying :)

Not really, because that 'steady stream' has nowhere near the density to make the content interesting or game changing. I know exactly what will happen.

Cody, Cody, Cody...

Will you never learn?

I still think you're getting ahead of your self over the microtransactions. Your points against them all seem to be based on assumptions of what will happen (that the content funded by the microtransactions won't be as good as content funded by full-price DLC payments), but none of that has actually happened yet. I'd say lets wait and see. Who knows, you might be right. Or Bungie might surprise you and release a steady stream of fun new content without charging you a penny. You've gotta admit, that would be pretty cool, right? :)

Not really, because that 'steady stream' has nowhere near the density to make the content interesting or game changing. I know exactly what will happen.

I'd rather buy an expansion and get emotes for free, rather than buy emotes and get some unspecified but less than expansion amount of content for free.

Ever hear "You get what you pay for?"

I really haven't found my goto primary weapon yet. I've been switching between Suros Regime and Hung Jury, but they each fit a specific range and playstyle. I'm missing my super stable pulse rifles like my old Allfate and Hopscotch Pilgrim. I'm also not a fan of Hakke PR's. I don't like the 4 round burst.

Supers I don't have a problem with. I hear the hammer, I run. They are very tough to kill, but I don't feel they are OP. I always ran from GG's and Bladedancers before, so what's the difference now. I killed two or three Hammerbros in my Armor of Light and I smashed a ton of Electric Warlocks with my Fist of Havoc. The Nightstalker is probably the toughest for me, because there's no warning it's coming. Even if they miss the tether will screw you.

It is still fun to play with a group rather than alone, and this is why I prefer IB.

I'm sort of in the same boat. I think after I try trials, and after I try the heroic raid, I might put the game down. Mostly because of the stupid updates with motes / weapon parts etc, but also microtransactions. The difference is this time it would be in disappointment after much satisfaction, versus in uncontrollable rage.

I still think you're getting ahead of your self over the microtransactions. Your points against them all seem to be based on assumptions of what will happen (that the content funded by the microtransactions won't be as good as content funded by full-price DLC payments), but none of that has actually happened yet. I'd say lets wait and see. Who knows, you might be right. Or Bungie might surprise you and release a steady stream of fun new content without charging you a penny. You've gotta admit, that would be pretty cool, right? :)

Literally all Bungie needs to do is . . . <insert laundry list of changes>.

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2. Bungie could be weighting the maps based on knowledge of how fair they are. Perhaps in the lesser played maps one side has a 2% advantage.

Don't think that's the case because in my limited experience, Rusted Lands is heavily featured, and that map is far from fair.

I managed to snag that one at some point last night. Had to have happened before I joined you and Squid. You and I stayed pretty close in scoring, but there's no way I topped Squid's score at any point in the night. If I can get that one, pretty much anyone can. Just play solo for a bit and it'll happen.

I'm off work tomorrow and will probably play solo off and on throughout the day, so maybe I'll get lucky.

Hah! I'm pretty sure most of the time your K/D was actually just a bit higher than mine. I'm going to blame both of our performances on Squid's mad skills getting us matched with much better players. ;p

Ha, deal! It's all your fault Squid! Although he did carry us through quite a few wins, so thanks, Squid!

Either:

1. Bungie attempts to give a group of 12 players the map that they have collectively played the least. The problem is that you could be a player that plays window's court a half dozen times in a row even though you've personally played that map the most.

2. Bungie could be weighting the maps based on knowledge of how fair they are. Perhaps in the lesser played maps one side has a 2% advantage. Alternatively, they could weight it based on fun/frustration. There is no way for us to rate maps on a fun level, but I'd bet large amounts of money that Bungie knows which maps cause players to quit mid-game the most. Perhaps they are deprioritizing those?

Still, I can understand how it's frustrating. I certainly have my favorite and least favorite maps, and it sucks to hop online for a game or two with my limited time and get dealt the maps I'd rather not play.

So, lesson 1 if you're dying over and over is to try and not die. be cautious, stick with your teammates who are not dying and things will suddenly get better. I have games where I'm towards the bottom of the totem pole but my K/D ratio is positive. I consider that a win, or at least "not losing for my team".

I had an issue with one of my turtlebeach headsets (xbox), It would NOT turn on. It worked great up until one day it wouldnt turn on or charge or anything. It literally just stopped working mid game. It was about 8 months old and I didn't have the receipt, so I emailed Turtle Beach about it. They sent me a box, I sent mine in, then sent me a brand new headset (fresh in the box, with all the cables I didn't send in) free of charge. They also had a coupon in there. Between this and the reasonable prices, I love them. Alot of people have a problem paying 200 dollars for a headset, which is understable. But the quality, durability, and support of the product was well worth it. I had a PS3 wireless Stereo Surround sound headset for my PS3 (same age as my turtlebeach) and besides the obvious difference in sound quality (Dobly Digital vs Stereo) they could match up. Battery sucked, voice quality was nothing good, the fabric was cheap, and started coming off about 2 months after purchase.