I could see Voidwalkers being great for the Warpriest, Deathsingers, and possibly Oryx. All 3 of those fights feature clusters of adds spawning in close proximity: perfect Nova Bomb fodder ;)

And yes, I too agree with Funkmon. I think all of the subclasses have plenty of opportunity to be useful in the raid. It seems very well thought out in that regard.

Yeah, I've been impressed with how there is no reliance on supers in general, but each class can bring a number of things to the table. Bungie did a great job with it.

You are also used to using it as a crutch.

Yuuuuuuuuup. I play super aggressive because I have the punch shield and can revive. Much more fun.

I use sunsinger for most of the raid. Sticky grenades are great DPS for majors and ultras. I enjoyed sticking oryx just before he died last time. I use stormcaller during Golgoroth because it really helps when the taken start spawning all over. Voidwalker seems the weakest, but that may or may not actually be the case -- I haven't tried it yet.

I could see Voidwalkers being great for the Warpriest, Deathsingers, and possibly Oryx. All 3 of those fights feature clusters of adds spawning in close proximity: perfect Nova Bomb fodder ;)

And yes, I too agree with Funkmon. I think all of the subclasses have plenty of opportunity to be useful in the raid. It seems very well thought out in that regard.

And as a gaze guy for ogre, if the balls get you, no problem. Just res. I think it's very useful. The charge the plate encounter also is better if you can res. Also, don't discount the utility of the super itself. A billion grenades take down a lot of dudes' health. Flame shield is a lifesaver. Two grenades can destroy a pink faced ogre.

Don't mistake not being an overt support or maximum DPS class as being less useful just because it's less obvious.

I never thought I'd ever see you ahead of me in terms of progression Narcogen. I've got a 305 Hunter and two others at 170.

I'm not sure I'd say that's ahead of you. I think it takes a lot more time to go from 290 to 300+ than it does to go from, say, 260 to 280. So by evening out play time over all characters, I was able to get two characters into 290s. I also had a few hundred coins and a few hundred motes to put into faction rep and get a bunch of packages, and I've gotten lucky with exotic engrams from Xur, and a decent drop rate when using Three of Coins as well.

Blackstar and I also made a big push to try and get to near raid level in the first week. We didn't quite make it-- only got to 270 or so-- but that meant getting to 290 from there was not that difficult.

I also spent the week after the 2.0 launch but before TTK dropped completing bounties and NOT turning them in, so I got from 34 to 39 almost immediately. Not sure how relevant that really was, since I'm not even sure level counts for anything except as a minimum requirement for certain gear, but...

What I haven't been able to do since that first attempt is do any more of the raid, so I haven't gotten my hands on that 300 level ghost that is supposed to be there.

I think Defenders, Nightstalkers, and Hammerflingers are the best three subs for the raid. I wonder how well an invis bladedancer would work in some of the battles. If you get Gorgoroth's gaze and go invis will he still shoot orbs at you? I also wonder how much damage a Gunslinger can do with the Nighthawk helmet and all the boosts from WoL, and the Void Bow.

I'd say the best choice for warlock is the Storm Caller for add cleanup and making orbs.

In PvP Voidwalkers are still crazy good. That nova bomb is as deadly as ever.

I've been thinking about this for a few days now, and then it came up during our raid last night.

Do any of you have your alts up and running at or close to Raid level? Is anyone spending any significant amount of time with their alts yet?

I've been focusing on the Hunter that we do Rampancy LPs with, and he maxes out around 294 now. My warlock that I do solo and crucible stuff with is at 290. My titan is what my wife and I play co-op with, and they're stuck around 270 unless I start moving a lot of weapons and ghost shells around.

I played through the main story up to killing Oryx with my Hunter. She's currently at level 39, just need maybe one bounty to get her to 40.

My Titan (who was at level 7 or 8 before The Taken King dropped) used the shard thing to get to 25, and that's it. By the way, using that also gives you appropriately level blue gear, that way your light level isn't way out of whack.

I am eager to play with my other classes, just because all of the new subclass look like so much fun, but I've still go plenty to do on my Warlock. Might start trying to get the Touch of Malice with her next week after I'm Raid complete.

I may also put that off and start working on an alt, but I'm not sure if I want to continue with my Hunter and bring her up to snuff, or give my Titan some love.

Well, that Hunter is sitting at 302 with multiple raid completions and most other stuff done, just working on exotic quests and such now. So basically my alt just became my main lol

I've been shooting engrams over to my warlock and titan but haven't done much with them besides that.

On Xbox, I'm doing the same for my Hunter, since all of my Warlock gear is 290+ (but the weapons hold me back by a lot), but since she's not at 40 yet, I can't really do much.

I find it very refreshing that I don't feel like having to run everything 3 times with different characters. I like my alts, but I like my main way better. My playtime previously reflected this and it's now even more pronounced. I plan on going through everything with all characters, but I feel like I have time to do so now, rather than rushing everyone up to raid x3 a week on them.