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<title>On Light and Power Levels. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is anyone at Light Level 170, and does it feel different than being a maxed 34 pre-update?</p>
<p>I have a 170 Warlock.  I ran Normal Crota this morning with a group, and just spent five hours in Skolas.  Both seemed much more difficult than they would have pre-update.  Part of it is definitely the Hand Cannon range reduction.  I previously used an ascended Fatebringer and Found Verdict for Skolas.  It was perfect, because I like having the shotgun for Captains in the hidey-hole. Well, now Fatebringer doesn't have enough range to take out the adds across the map effectively, so it's pretty tough.</p>
</blockquote><p>Shotguns also took a huge PVE nerf, too, so that weapon combo is probably really suboptimal now.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2015 19:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Titan&#039;s is 160. (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2015 01:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>170? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found the drops to be random in light levels. Maybe I'm not paying attention close enough to detect a pattern.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2015 01:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>They love Warlocks more. (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2015 00:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>The Warlock Class item you get from Ikora is 180. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>Was that from completing your Warlock subclass questline, or from something else?</p>
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It popped up after completing the Voidwalker subclass line. I also got the 220 bond which can not be equipped until level 40.</p>
</blockquote><p>Interesting. I did get a 160 cloak while doing some of the old quests, but I didn't see anything higher.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2015 00:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>The Warlock Class item you get from Ikora is 180. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Was that from completing your Warlock subclass questline, or from something else?</p>
</blockquote><p>It popped up after completing the Voidwalker subclass line. I also got the 220 bond which can not be equipped until level 40.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2015 00:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>The Warlock Class item you get from Ikora is 180. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>Are you talking about the blues you get for hitting level 30? None of the blue items I got were 180 light. They were 140 or so.</p>
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<a href="https://www.bungie.net/en/Legend/Gear/1/4611686018429583933/2305843009214987298">My Warlock at 170</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.bungie.net/en/Armory/Detail?item=1776632646&amp;itemname=%22The%20Unconquerable%22">My 180 Bond</a></p>
</blockquote><p>Was that from completing your Warlock subclass questline, or from something else?</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2015 00:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Seems unfair, (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rest arent 180. =[</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2015 00:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>The Warlock Class item you get from Ikora is 180. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Are you talking about the blues you get for hitting level 30? None of the blue items I got were 180 light. They were 140 or so.</p>
</blockquote><p><a href="https://www.bungie.net/en/Legend/Gear/1/4611686018429583933/2305843009214987298">My Warlock at 170</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.bungie.net/en/Armory/Detail?item=1776632646&amp;itemname=%22The%20Unconquerable%22">My 180 Bond</a></p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2015 00:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>The Warlock Class item you get from Ikora is 180. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you talking about the blues you get for hitting level 30? None of the blue items I got were 180 light. They were 140 or so.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 23:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>170? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You have to equip the 180 rare class item you get from the Vanguard Questline</p>
</blockquote><p>When and how did you get a 180 light class item? I got 210 light ones for completing the subclass quest lines, but those have a required level of 40.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 23:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 23:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>170? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How did you get to 170? I have 170 armors, weapons, and a ghost shell, but I'm still only 169.</p>
</blockquote><p>You can get some class items that are 170. For instance, the class item from PoE is light 170, but only if you get it post patch. The current one is 3 light!</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 23:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>170? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to equip the 180 rare class item you get from the Vanguard Questline</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 23:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>unoudid</dc:creator>
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<title>170? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did you get to 170? I have 170 armors, weapons, and a ghost shell, but I'm still only 169.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 23:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Blackt1g3r</dc:creator>
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<title>On Light and Power Levels. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is anyone at Light Level 170, and does it feel different than being a maxed 34 pre-update?</p>
<p>I have a 170 Warlock.  I ran Normal Crota this morning with a group, and just spent five hours in Skolas.  Both seemed much more difficult than they would have pre-update.  Part of it is definitely the Hand Cannon range reduction.  I previously used an ascended Fatebringer and Found Verdict for Skolas.  It was perfect, because I like having the shotgun for Captains in the hidey-hole. Well, now Fatebringer doesn't have enough range to take out the adds across the map effectively, so it's pretty tough.</p>
<p>The only real difference I felt for Crota was the Swordbearers felt like they were taking a lot less damage, and dealing much more damage than normal.  Again, this was at Light Level 170.</p>
<p>Just curious what it felt like to other folks.</p>
<p>And Lawnmower and Phoenix, sorry we couldn't get Skolas done tonight.  Rookie mistake on my part for not being stocked up on Heavy Ammo synths.  I'm positive we would have finished if I wasn't scrounging for ammo the entire time.  We just couldn't burn him before second round of mines because of it, I think.  I'll be prepared next time!</p>
</blockquote><p>I haven't raided, but I did use my fatebringer on a moon patrol. As you mentioned, the range reduction is immediately noticeable. Now you can't headshot enemies a good distance away, which means you aren't getting your Outlaw to proc. And if you're a hunter, like me, Chain of Woe is also not proccing. The reload speed reduction is painful when you don't get a precision kill (I guess that I always had one pre-2.0). One small change made the gun 50% less awesome. Perhaps it won't be such a small problem in a smaller zone, but I think it's ruined.</p>
<p>Will try VoC next time I play... I'm encouraged by the damage boost.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 23:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>DreadPirateWes</dc:creator>
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<title>On Light and Power Levels.</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is anyone at Light Level 170, and does it feel different than being a maxed 34 pre-update?</p>
<p>I have a 170 Warlock.  I ran Normal Crota this morning with a group, and just spent five hours in Skolas.  Both seemed much more difficult than they would have pre-update.  Part of it is definitely the Hand Cannon range reduction.  I previously used an ascended Fatebringer and Found Verdict for Skolas.  It was perfect, because I like having the shotgun for Captains in the hidey-hole. Well, now Fatebringer doesn't have enough range to take out the adds across the map effectively, so it's pretty tough.</p>
<p>The only real difference I felt for Crota was the Swordbearers felt like they were taking a lot less damage, and dealing much more damage than normal.  Again, this was at Light Level 170.</p>
<p>Just curious what it felt like to other folks.</p>
<p>And Lawnmower and Phoenix, sorry we couldn't get Skolas done tonight.  Rookie mistake on my part for not being stocked up on Heavy Ammo synths.  I'm positive we would have finished if I wasn't scrounging for ammo the entire time.  We just couldn't burn him before second round of mines because of it, I think.  I'll be prepared next time!</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2015 10:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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