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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>That... makes it like any other strike.</p>
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Uh, except for the modifiers.</p>
</blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>So there's no XP buff</p>
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Yes there is, you just don't have to do the nightfall to get it. </p>
</blockquote><p>If you don't need to do something to get it, it's not a buff. A buff is only relative to the baseline.</p>
<blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>and now it requires 40, so I'm going to have to rank up six more levels before I can do it?</p>
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Yes, but... did you think you'd just be able to jump in to an endgame activity as a 34?</p>
</blockquote><p>I didn't think I'd lose access to something I already had access to. When TDB launched all that was necessary to access the Omnigul strike was to complete Eris' quest. For weeks where the Nightfall was not the Omnigul strike, you could access it as usual. </p>
<p>Now, maybe it won't matter because doing the story missions in TTK will bring me from 34 to 40, and since you don't need gear drops to max out, it'll just happen. In a way that makes me sad, though, because I try not to rush through the new content and this means I have to if I don't want to miss out on a week's Nightfall.</p>
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Also, the Weekly gave me a chance to look at modifiers and the specific strike so I could decide whether or not I wanted to do it this week. Now it's just another playlist (like the other strike playlists I stopped playing months ago) and since I won't know what I'm getting, I'm not sure what the point is. When they added matchmaking I stopped playing Weeklies without a full fireteam. Now I guess I won't be playing them at all, since there's actually no strike to play-- just another list.</p>
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I guess. It's hard for me to get too worked up about that because I stopped playing weekly heroic strikes months ago. The time when I needed strange coins or Vanguard marks has long since passed.</p>
</blockquote><p>For me, too. It's become more of a ritual to do them rather than for the rewards. I've maxed out on marks on all characters and I have over 200 coins. When we have a full fireteam looking for something to do, we look at what the weekly strike is and what the modifiers are and if it seems fun, we do it. Now we'll have no way of knowing-- we'll have to just try our luck.</p>
<blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>I think the curse of having mostly liked the game as it was when it came out means I'm going to be liking it less as they cave to everyone complaining about how obviously bad the game they keep playing is.</p>
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The only thing I'm really not liking is the old gear not moving forward. What was the point of that whole etheric light thing in HoW if old gear was eventually going to be left behind anyway?</p>
<p>Most of the changes in this update just seem to be recognizing that some of us don't like feeling like we have to complete certain activities regularly in order to keep up. There was a time when that didn't bother me as much, but lately I'm realizing that Destiny (in its current form) is not a game that I can just jump into for 30 minutes a week.</p>
</blockquote><p>Well, I think you can, but that would definitely be the low side.</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>narcogen</dc:creator>
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<title>And I&#039;m glad they&#039;re listening (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think Cody's well aware of how he's perceived, and those posts are just self-referential humor. They're usually accompanied by a smiley or a wink or something. I don't think there's any need to get upset.</p>
</blockquote><p>I did overstate it (partly because I think &quot;incredible douchelord&quot; sounds funny), but it does bother me. It's really more about when he &quot;suggests&quot; ideas in the first place. The &quot;I told you so&quot; is just an added annoyance, and fuels him to keep doing it. People directly encouraging it obviously also fuels it.</p>
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<title>But what WILL it do? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh? there's no guaranteed high level drop right now. Perhaps you're thinking of Nightfall?</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Cody's well aware of how he's perceived, and those posts are just self-referential humor. They're usually accompanied by a smiley or a wink or something. I don't think there's any need to get upset.</p>
<p>Also, Bungie's said plenty of times that they listen for suggestions about these things. They'll probably never confirm for sure, but it's entirely possible they DID use Cody's idea. And I'm sure they've taken ideas from plenty of others in the community as well.</p>
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<title>You might be reading it wrong (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone who replied to me here made good points, and I still am not 100% sure what the answer is. I think the only thing that is completely clear is that we could use some clarification from Bungle.</p>
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<title>Heh, &quot;coy&quot; (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2015 02:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>ZackDark</dc:creator>
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<title>You&#039;ve made it to the end of the universe on easy mode (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2015 01:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>kidtsunami</dc:creator>
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<title>Yikes. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>No more kick to orbit in Nightfall.... that totally changes how it will play.</p>
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That... makes it like any other strike.</p>
<p>So there's no XP buff, there's no Nightfall in it anymore, since that's what the kick to orbit meant, and now it requires 40, so I'm going to have to rank up six more levels before I can do it?</p>
</blockquote><p>Yeah, but now you can do that with just gameplay instead of RNG or grinding for currency to buy stuff and grinding for materials and experience to upgrade it.</p>
<blockquote><p>Also, the Weekly gave me a chance to look at modifiers and the specific strike so I could decide whether or not I wanted to do it this week. Now it's just another playlist (like the other strike playlists I stopped playing months ago) and since I won't know what I'm getting, I'm not sure what the point is. When they added matchmaking I stopped playing Weeklies without a full fireteam. Now I guess I won't be playing them at all, since there's actually no strike to play-- just another list.</p>
</blockquote><p>Where did they say the modifiers or the strike would be random? I think it's pretty reasonable to think the strike would be random, but the modifiers?</p>
<blockquote><p>I think the curse of having mostly liked the game as it was when it came out means I'm going to be liking it less as they cave to everyone complaining about how obviously bad the game they keep playing is.</p>
</blockquote><p>To me, the nightfall concept is good in theory but falls down in practice, especially for solo play. Surely you've been frustrated at spending a bunch of time on a nightfall only to have to start over, and then have it happen again and again. It's not much consolation that that's only not wasted time because you might get something randomly or you can have it as part of the grind for materials and currency. Not locking it to one strike each week gives more variety, something that even people who love the game have been wanting since day one. This will get me to play the nightfall more because I could rarely get people that wanted to do it with me and I could very rarely get through it alone. (This could've also been helped with a better way to connect people, like say a voice chat option everywhere.)</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2015 00:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>General Vagueness</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>While I often disagree with your rants, some of your ideas for improvement are damn good. Keep 'em coming! :)</p>
</blockquote><p>I could do without them if he's going to be an incredible douchelord and do the coy I-told-you-so when they're implemented.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2015 23:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>You need to clear the universe&#039;s cache for it to pop. (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2015 23:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Yup.  I want that too! (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2015 23:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Monochron</dc:creator>
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<title>Bleep Bloop (reply)</title>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>someotherguy</dc:creator>
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<title>The achievement heat death of the universe (reply)</title>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>kidtsunami</dc:creator>
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<title>Do you... Do you wanna talk about it? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, come lie on this sofa and tell me all about how the nasty men enjoyed something trivial and ruined your day.</p>
<p>I apologise if that seems belittling, but Jeese, doesn't <em>every</em> achievement come out as insignificant on a macro level? Every videogame one, at least, and arguably <em>literally everything ever because one day we will all be dead</em>.</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>someotherguy</dc:creator>
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<title>It&#039;s like this (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=0CB4QtwIwAGoVChMI69yyuaLMxwIVTAqSCh07Zg4W&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DDwrPuCnNbv8&amp;ei=5JXgVevaGcyUyAS7zLmwAQ&amp;usg=AFQjCNEotNL6VRv1GUwF6EjBgHYvifaONA">&quot;I hope a giant tank doesn't come out of nowhere and own me&quot;!</a></p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2015 22:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Durandal</dc:creator>
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<title>haha I knew you&#039;d agree with me on this one (reply)</title>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>kidtsunami</dc:creator>
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<title>People are different.  Probably best to accept that. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you speak of is fake accomplishment. It is performance accomplishment rather than mastery accomplishment. Instead of just time, your progression milestone should require the player to grow and learn new skills. That progression is even more satisfying!</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2015 21:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No more kick to orbit in Nightfall.... that totally changes how it will play.</p>
</blockquote><p>so are there checkpoints, or does it just restart the strike from the beginning? if it restarts, then i approve. going to orbit and reloading the strike was a pain.</p>
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<title>People are different.  Probably best to accept that. (reply)</title>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>kidtsunami</dc:creator>
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<title>People are different.  Probably best to accept that. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I swear I'm not a hate filled person, but I'm almost just as awful to talk to in real life, to be fair.</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Monochron</dc:creator>
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