- There were two entry points in some places, one on ground level and one that you could jump through

- I noticed in the video that you could open a window seal (I forget the actual name of it) by activating it. I don't know how much people would use this, but it's cool to see in multiplayer.

Yeah, the stability I've seen in videos is what lured me, but that 2-shot statistic is mind-blowing.

How is the 55555 Allfate, in any way, fair?

555555 allfate is kinda OP. I think that's why its being nerfed slightly in the next patch. Why use the higher impact pulse rifle that still takes 2 bursts but shoots slower? Sounds like they are gonna make it a 3 round burst to kill.

How is the 55555 Allfate, in any way, fair?

Allfate can 2 shot many players who have medium to low armor. :)st weapons.

What.

Gotta level up my 5555 Allfate ASAP.

DTR does pretty good, but their True Skills also need some adjustment (I think they are working on that though).

- One person had a radar that was more precise, it was divided into 16 segments vs. 8 weapon perk?
- Nearly everyone used Suros PR and the Hakke Pistol. They had the choice of weapons, so it's interesting that a pistol seemed so dominant.
- Some good design in the rift game mode to fix some of the problems with regular CTF games, especially with randoms.

- They don't know how to edit Destiny PVP for esports yet. Oy. Camera work often focussed on the least interesting viewpoints, and it was hard to follow. FPS aren't great Esports games to watch to start with, and some things that are intrinsic to destiny is rough.

I think FPS are my favorite to watch. I love watching my DBO boys streaming trials. I think part of the trick like you said is camera angles. If Bungie put a "theater" like function where you could place cameras in fixed positions that show common battle areas, this would help.

- New supers didn't seem OP at all. Either that or near pro destiny players are better at shutting them down than I am ( I wish the original subs were in play too so we could compare)

- Suros PR was 3 shot kill similar to the 555 allfate. The pistol was 4 headshots. Lots of cool scopes for the PR.

Allfate can 2 shot many players who have medium to low armor. :)

- It's still a slayerish gametype, but if you get the spark in it will do a big shift. A full run of the spark is worth about 25 kills.

- new grenades were great in bannerfalls corridors, but less great in the wide open spaces.

There's things I like, but it seemed like a bit of the same old, "EVERYONE USE THE EXACT SAME GUN!" gameplay.

I think this will be greatly improved with the update, except that in Trials and IB, the old weapons not being carried forward will create an all new Meta. Unfortunately there will always be a weapon that outshines another, even if by a slight margin. Pro's and ultra competitive types will always choose the best weapons.

- They don't know how to edit Destiny PVP for esports yet. Oy. Camera work often focussed on the least interesting viewpoints, and it was hard to follow. FPS aren't great Esports games to watch to start with, and some things that are intrinsic to destiny is rough.

- New supers didn't seem OP at all. Either that or near pro destiny players are better at shutting them down than I am ( I wish the original subs were in play too so we could compare)

- Suros PR was 3 shot kill similar to the 555 allfate. The pistol was 4 headshots. Lots of cool scopes for the PR.

- It's still a slayerish gametype, but if you get the spark in it will do a big shift. A full run of the spark is worth about 25 kills.

- new grenades were great in bannerfalls corridors, but less great in the wide open spaces.

There's things I like, but it seemed like a bit of the same old, "EVERYONE USE THE EXACT SAME GUN!" gameplay.

Apparently someone posted it then deleted. Archived on youtoob.