IB and ToO are about the gear.

Couldn't disagree more, at least in terms of ToO (Iron Banner is kinda just about gear ;p)

The experience of playing Trials is totally unlike anything you get from standard crucible. The pressure, the stakes, the flow of the rounds... All unique within Destiny.

Literally no purpose to all the Iron Banner gear I've been grinding, and IB sure as hell isn't fun like ToO is.

Just the opposite for me. IB is one of the only times when we consistently get DBO teams in crucible, and even if we lose, it is so much better with a full team. Trials is interesting and unique and I'm addicted (even though I'm horrible and lose alot). However it's not fun after you've played 16 games and won 2 or 3. I've had moments of brilliance like this, but they are rare.

For fun I'd chose IB over ToO anyday. But yes for strategy and the thrill of putting your skills to the test, ToO rules.

Also I kinda grind ToO for the Etheric light, but same can be said for IB.

is simply the fact that I will never get to experience certain guns as they were meant to be experienced because I couldn't get them to drop and they will be obsolete in a month. I know some of you still don't have Gjallarhorns, and famously Cody never got his Hawkmoon (though every Xbox player here will never get to use Hawkmoon they way you PSN guys and gals knew it). Personally, despite hundreds of runs and completions I have never gotten a Black Hammer (I think the game knows I like sniping too much to drop it for me), nor have I ever gotten Fatebringer. I'm guessing other people share this frustration.

One quick thing, they didn't actually mention exotics changing/not changing. I have a feeling some of those will still come around.

They'll still be usable in Crucible, where everything is damage-equalized, if they have perk styles you like.

This actually had me thinking that if the Stranger's Rifle is ascendable to exotic status, I hope it's optional. I like using it with an exotic secondary.

is simply the fact that I will never get to experience certain guns as they were meant to be experienced because I couldn't get them to drop and they will be obsolete in a month. I know some of you still don't have Gjallarhorns, and famously Cody never got his Hawkmoon (though every Xbox player here will never get to use Hawkmoon they way you PSN guys and gals knew it). Personally, despite hundreds of runs and completions I have never gotten a Black Hammer (I think the game knows I like sniping too much to drop it for me), nor have I ever gotten Fatebringer. I'm guessing other people share this frustration.

In all honesty, I prefer my ascended TDYK to my Hawkmoon. It just feels better.

is simply the fact that I will never get to experience certain guns as they were meant to be experienced because I couldn't get them to drop and they will be obsolete in a month.

The guns that are out now were designed for the content that's out now, and they'll still work just as well for existing content at existing levels (except for the nerfing of all the stat boost perks), and hopefully they at least gave some thought to later content in designing things. All this means is attack levels won't go any higher than 365 for existing legendaries.

un-quit and raid with us wednesday. We won't tell. ;)

I can't. I'm washing my hair.