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<title>Timurs lash and Efrideets spear!! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True. And it's not great. That said, hidden hand on NON snipers does increase bullet magnetism. It is a top perk for hand cannons.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2015 02:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Funkmon</dc:creator>
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<title>Can&#039;t roll FR any more (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2015 01:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>someotherguy</dc:creator>
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<title>Timurs lash and Efrideets spear!! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it's not supposed to have more magnetism. It is supposed to keep your reticule on target a bit longer (a la stickiness).</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2015 01:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>BeardFade</dc:creator>
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<title>Both guns much less good after this DLC. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im just a collector.  I know that these arent that great. I have the fulcrum and the benevolence, but I still want these.  If nothing else but for aesthetics.  </p>
<p>I really hope they bring new Iron banner weapons into The Taken King</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2015 00:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>TheeChaos</dc:creator>
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<title>tl;dr, you have two months to enjoy a FR Spear, get it! (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2015 00:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Korny</dc:creator>
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<title>Both guns much less good after this DLC. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They both have crap aim assist and are only useful for their impact. You can no longer do damage bonuses plus outlaw on Timur's lash, so it sucks for PvE. Litc and final round are useful on a PvP gun, but the fact is, when those proc, they're no better than on a Fulcrum, which has only one more shot and a much better fire rate and aim assist.</p>
<p>TL could have been a PVE beast, but they killed those rolls.</p>
<p>E Spear without final round is worse than a Benevolence for PVP. Low aim assist, fewer rounds in mag, longer time between shots, and extra impact is meaningless.</p>
<p>E Spear IS decent during PVE. Roll for extra ammo perks except mulligan and you're all right. I would still prefer Benevolence, because even though the impact is slightly less, your DPS is higher and it's easier to use.</p>
<p>If you're on the fence and considering running this for the guns, don't.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2015 00:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Funkmon</dc:creator>
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<title>Timurs lash and Efrideets spear!! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hidden hand on sniper rifles has almost no effect in my testing. Zero bullet magnetism, slightly better in stickiness, but not great. I wouldn't bother rerolling.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2015 00:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Funkmon</dc:creator>
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<title>Timurs lash and Efrideets spear!! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! <br />
Looks like a good Spear roll (though I'd prefer Hidden Hand over Clown Cartridge), and a better-than-average Lash roll (Sureshot is a better sight and triple tap seems a waste).</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2015 23:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Chappy</dc:creator>
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<title>Timurs lash and Efrideets spear!! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Does anyone know what the default rolls are? I suppose it's too much to hope that the Spear is Shortgaze, Hidden Hand, Injection Mold, and Unflinching? And a Lash with Sureshot, Zen moment or Final Round, Smallbore and Hidden Hand or Luck in the Chamber would be nice...</p>
</blockquote><p><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3ex21t/iron_banner_megathread_day_1_72815/">https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3ex21t/iron_banner_megathread_day_1_72815/</a></p>
<p>tier 1<br />
Hawkeye SLR15/ Shortgaze SLH10/ Ambush SLH25</p>
<p>tier 2<br />
Clown Cartridge</p>
<p>tier 3<br />
Flared Magwell/ Lightweight/ Hand-Laid Stock</p>
<p>tier 4<br />
Unflinching</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2015 23:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Schedonnardus</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know what the default rolls are? I suppose it's too much to hope that the Spear is Shortgaze, Hidden Hand, Injection Mold, and Unflinching? And a Lash with Sureshot, Zen moment or Final Round, Smallbore and Hidden Hand or Luck in the Chamber would be nice...</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2015 23:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Chappy</dc:creator>
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<title>We&#039;re running tonight, you&#039;re welcome to join! (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2015 23:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>CommandrCleavage</dc:creator>
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<title>Well, maybe I&#039;ll have to shoot for rank 4... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an ill will but Timurs is better. woo</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2015 22:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>TheeChaos</dc:creator>
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<title>Well, maybe I&#039;ll have to shoot for rank 4... (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2015 22:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>dogcow</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just the 2 I wanted!</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2015 22:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>TheeChaos</dc:creator>
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